(09-29-2014 01:06 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  No, I am not confusing true anarchy with anything. These are classic tactics used by anarcho socialist movements since the 1940s. They are very much in line with the tactics the Democrats are using with the race game in places like Ferguson.

Anarchy cannot be achieved until mass chaos against authority is in place.

Very much in line with all your anti cop buddies on this forum. It's all part of the same arm.

The Democrats are not trying to get rid of authority. They want to be the authority. You are completely wrong in every way here. True anarchists would want to get rid of the Democrats just the same as the Republicans.

(09-29-2014 01:08 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 01:06 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  No, I am not confusing true anarchy with anything. These are classic tactics used by anarcho socialist movements since the 1940s. They are very much in line with the tactics the Democrats are using with the race game in places like Ferguson.

Anarchy cannot be achieved until mass chaos against authority is in place.

Very much in line with all your anti cop buddies on this forum. It's all part of the same arm.

The Democrats are not trying to get rid of authority. They want to be the authority. You are completely wrong in every way here. True anarchists would want to get rid of the Democrats just the same as the Republicans.

I didn't say they were. I am saying they are using some of the very same tactics used by anarcho socialists to achieve their goals.

I am completely right in every way. These theatrics have been in play for the entire Obama admin.

(09-29-2014 01:06 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 01:05 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  I know a little bit about Cincinnati, having grown up there. What suburb did your parents move to?

I grew up in Dayton, not Cincinnati. My home town is the where the Walmart shooting happened.

Ah, Beavercreek. I lived there when I was 5-6 yo before moving to Cincinnati.

(09-29-2014 12:40 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 12:35 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  Lol, what exactly do you think your charts tell us? It tells me the most white people smoke at home or a friends house and therefore don't get caught as much... That's IF your charts are accurate.

Where exactly does it say that? Please show me.

So what exactly is the relevance of the charts then? What are they saying besides black people get caught more than whites.

(09-29-2014 02:27 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  So what exactly is the relevance of the charts then? What are they saying besides black people get caught more than whites.

It says that black and white both use the drug in essentially the same proportion, but that a black person is much more likely to be arrested for it. It gives zero conclusions as to why.

(09-29-2014 02:29 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 02:27 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  So what exactly is the relevance of the charts then? What are they saying besides black people get caught more than whites.

It says that black and white both use the drug in essentially the same proportion, but that a black person is much more likely to be arrested for it. It gives zero conclusions as to why.

It's a graph for people to try and extrapolate answers for their agenda. If it were a better graph it would tell where most people consume their weed, but that would possibly be inaccurate.

(09-29-2014 02:29 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 02:27 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  So what exactly is the relevance of the charts then? What are they saying besides black people get caught more than whites.

It says that black and white both use the drug in essentially the same proportion, but that a black person is much more likely to be arrested for it. It gives zero conclusions as to why.

Ok. What was the point in posting it? I mean, I KNOW he posted it to try and show us that blacks get profiled and arrested while whites get out of tickets but that's untrue and his charts don't say it. I'm just trying to figure out the relevance of them.

(09-29-2014 02:31 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 02:29 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 02:27 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  So what exactly is the relevance of the charts then? What are they saying besides black people get caught more than whites.

It says that black and white both use the drug in essentially the same proportion, but that a black person is much more likely to be arrested for it. It gives zero conclusions as to why.

It's a graph for people to try and extrapolate answers for their agenda. If it were a better graph it would tell where most people consume their weed, but that would possibly be inaccurate.

Nice

(09-29-2014 02:29 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 02:27 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  So what exactly is the relevance of the charts then? What are they saying besides black people get caught more than whites.

It says that black and white both use the drug in essentially the same proportion, but that a black person is much more likely to be arrested for it. It gives zero conclusions as to why.

Exactly, they get caught more and it gives zero answers as to why.

(09-29-2014 02:33 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  Ok. What was the point in posting it? I mean, I KNOW he posted it to try and show us that blacks get profiled and arrested while whites get out of tickets but that's untrue and his charts don't say it. I'm just trying to figure out the relevance of them.

I'm going to guess that he posted it to show okie dokie that his lines about blacks having a disproportionate amount of crime is not necessarily accurate. Those charts show that the same percentage of white people do the same crime but aren't in jail.

(09-29-2014 02:35 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 02:29 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 02:27 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  So what exactly is the relevance of the charts then? What are they saying besides black people get caught more than whites.

It says that black and white both use the drug in essentially the same proportion, but that a black person is much more likely to be arrested for it. It gives zero conclusions as to why.

Exactly, they get caught more and it gives zero answers as to why.

Another fail in this thread for poor johnathan0

(09-29-2014 02:37 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 02:33 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  Ok. What was the point in posting it? I mean, I KNOW he posted it to try and show us that blacks get profiled and arrested while whites get out of tickets but that's untrue and his charts don't say it. I'm just trying to figure out the relevance of them.

I'm going to guess that he posted it to show okie dokie that his lines about blacks having a disproportionate amount of crime is not necessarily accurate. Those charts show that the same percentage of white people do the same crime but aren't in jail.

and four people now have tried to explain to you that is not true.

(09-29-2014 02:35 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 02:31 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 02:29 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 02:27 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  So what exactly is the relevance of the charts then? What are they saying besides black people get caught more than whites.

It says that black and white both use the drug in essentially the same proportion, but that a black person is much more likely to be arrested for it. It gives zero conclusions as to why.

It's a graph for people to try and extrapolate answers for their agenda. If it were a better graph it would tell where most people consume their weed, but that would possibly be inaccurate.

Nice

Here's the things about graphs and polls..

Usually they only get a select group of people say a mixture of 30 folks.. Ask them questions, and the results are supposed to speak for the populace as a whole.

With this graph, for it have bearing on anything, you'd have to ask if you consume weed, where, when, have you been arrested, where were you, how did you get busted, etc.

That's too much to do, so this gets pulled out and people try to extrapolate that the cops are racists towards young black men because they're ridin dirty and the crackas slide.

Whereas LSU says, no the white boys go home and don't leave instead of riding around.

While both might hold some truth, it's not the case in every episode.

(09-29-2014 02:37 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 02:33 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  Ok. What was the point in posting it? I mean, I KNOW he posted it to try and show us that blacks get profiled and arrested while whites get out of tickets but that's untrue and his charts don't say it. I'm just trying to figure out the relevance of them.

I'm going to guess that he posted it to show okie dokie that his lines about blacks having a disproportionate amount of crime is not necessarily accurate. Those charts show that the same percentage of white people do the same crime but aren't in jail.

Wrong. It shows, in a household survey, that just as high of a percentage of whites smoke weed compared to a percentage of blacks. Blacks apparently get arrested for weed, more, because they are caught with it. Last I checked, that's not whitey's fault.

(09-29-2014 02:38 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  and four people now have tried to explain to you that is not true.

What isn't true? The only thing you can get out of those graphs is that a black man smoking marijuana is more likely to be in jail for that crime than a white man smoking marijuana.

(09-29-2014 02:41 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 02:38 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  and four people now have tried to explain to you that is not true.

What isn't true? The only thing you can get out of those graphs is that a black man smoking marijuana is more likely to be in jail for that crime than a white man smoking marijuana.

No you can't.

(09-29-2014 02:40 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  Wrong. It shows, in a household survey, that just as high of a percentage of whites smoke weed compared to a percentage of blacks. Blacks apparently get arrested for weed, more, because they are caught with it. Last I checked, that's not whitey's fault.

It doesn't say that they get caught with it more or less. There is little meaningful data here outside of the fact that both break the law at the same rate.

(09-29-2014 02:40 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 02:35 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 02:31 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 02:29 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 02:27 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  So what exactly is the relevance of the charts then? What are they saying besides black people get caught more than whites.

It says that black and white both use the drug in essentially the same proportion, but that a black person is much more likely to be arrested for it. It gives zero conclusions as to why.

It's a graph for people to try and extrapolate answers for their agenda. If it were a better graph it would tell where most people consume their weed, but that would possibly be inaccurate.

Nice

Here's the things about graphs and polls..

Usually they only get a select group of people say a mixture of 30 folks.. Ask them questions, and the results are supposed to speak for the populace as a whole.

With this graph, for it have bearing on anything, you'd have to ask if you consume weed, where, when, have you been arrested, where were you, how did you get busted, etc.

That's too much to do, so this gets pulled out and people try to extrapolate that the cops are racists towards young black men because they're ridin dirty and the crackas slide.

Whereas LSU says, no the white boys go home and don't leave instead of riding around.

While both might hold some truth, it's not the case in every episode.

Fact is, the charts just show us how many people said they smoked weed in the last 12 months while taking a survey over the phone. Then these people most likely pulled arrest records and searched for the charge and race. Completely inaccurate poll used to represent an issue that is not representable.

(09-29-2014 02:42 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 02:41 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 02:38 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  and four people now have tried to explain to you that is not true.

What isn't true? The only thing you can get out of those graphs is that a black man smoking marijuana is more likely to be in jail for that crime than a white man smoking marijuana.

No you can't.

OK... I'll break it down further.

It states that no matter black or white, both races break this law at the same rate. There is nothing disproportionate about black behavior vs white behavior in this instance.

Further studies should probably be done to figure out why the discrepancy in the numbers who have gone to jail vs not.

(09-29-2014 02:44 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 02:42 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 02:41 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 02:38 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  and four people now have tried to explain to you that is not true.

What isn't true? The only thing you can get out of those graphs is that a black man smoking marijuana is more likely to be in jail for that crime than a white man smoking marijuana.

No you can't.

OK... I'll break it down further.

It states that no matter black or white, both races break this law at the same rate. There is nothing disproportionate about black behavior vs white behavior in this instance.

Further studies should probably be done to figure out why the discrepancy in the numbers who have gone to jail vs not.

It's saying that it is a phone survey that is reliant on what people tell them over the phone.