(09-29-2014 01:42 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 01:37 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 01:08 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 11:27 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 10:43 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  Any evidence these protestors were breaking the law? If not, they're in the right.

How do you know that they weren't? Even if they were out there singing kumbaya, if somebody complained about them being too loud, that itself is a crime.

No, that's not how that works.

The first step is denial.

By the way, I work at a law firm and studied criminal justice, I think I know what I am talking about.

Oh I never doubted the fact that you think you know what you're talking about, I'm just pointing out that you don't. Think whatever you like, it doesn't change reality.

But, it's nice you're an office manager or IT director at a law firm I suppose?

I am just going to leave this here
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Do.../PE.42.htm

And no

For sure, you're totally right. A person calling in that protesters are being loud literally trumps their 1st amendment rights. That law firm is lucky to have such well educated custodial staff.

(09-29-2014 02:00 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  For sure, you're totally right. A person calling in that protesters are being loud literally trumps their 1st amendment rights. That law firm is lucky to have such well educated custodial staff.

And the personal attacks have started, typical liberals.

A right to a riot is not a 1st amendment right.

(09-29-2014 01:49 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 01:42 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 01:37 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 01:08 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 11:27 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  How do you know that they weren't? Even if they were out there singing kumbaya, if somebody complained about them being too loud, that itself is a crime.

No, that's not how that works.

The first step is denial.

By the way, I work at a law firm and studied criminal justice, I think I know what I am talking about.

Oh I never doubted the fact that you think you know what you're talking about, I'm just pointing out that you don't. Think whatever you like, it doesn't change reality.

But, it's nice you're an office manager or IT director at a law firm I suppose?

I am just going to leave this here
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Do.../PE.42.htm

And no

Same here

http://www.scstatehouse.gov/code/t16c017.php

Quote:SECTION 16-17-530. Public disorderly conduct.

Any person who shall (a) be found on any highway or at any public place or public gathering in a grossly intoxicated condition or otherwise conducting himself in a disorderly or boisterous manner, (b) use obscene or profane language on any highway or at any public place or gathering or in hearing distance of any schoolhouse or church or © while under the influence or feigning to be under the influence of intoxicating liquor, without just cause or excuse, discharge any gun, pistol or other firearm while upon or within fifty yards of any public road or highway, except upon his own premises, shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction shall be fined not more than one hundred dollars or be imprisoned for not more than thirty days.

HISTORY: 1962 Code Section 16-558; 1952 Code Section 16-558; 1949 (46) 466; 1968 (55) 2842; 1969 (56) 153.

And after looking during the discussion over Winston's theatrics in the student union Florida's law is pretty much the same.

But neither those nor Texas laws matter. Missouri's law does.
http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C500-599/5740000010.HTM

Quote:eace disturbance--penalty.

574.010. 1. A person commits the crime of peace disturbance if:

(1) He unreasonably and knowingly disturbs or alarms another person or persons by:

(a) Loud noise; or

(b) Offensive language addressed in a face-to-face manner to a specific individual and uttered under circumstances which are likely to produce an immediate violent response from a reasonable recipient; or

© Threatening to commit a felonious act against any person under circumstances which are likely to cause a reasonable person to fear that such threat may be carried out; or

(d) Fighting; or

(e) Creating a noxious and offensive odor;

(2) He is in a public place or on private property of another without consent and purposely causes inconvenience to another person or persons by unreasonably and physically obstructing:

(a) Vehicular or pedestrian traffic; or

(b) The free ingress or egress to or from a public or private place.

2. Peace disturbance is a class B misdemeanor upon the first conviction. Upon a second or subsequent conviction, peace disturbance is a class A misdemeanor. Upon a third or subsequent conviction, a person shall be sentenced to pay a fine of no less than one thousand dollars and no more than five thousand dollars.

(09-29-2014 07:56 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 01:49 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 01:42 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 01:37 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 01:08 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  No, that's not how that works.

The first step is denial.

By the way, I work at a law firm and studied criminal justice, I think I know what I am talking about.

Oh I never doubted the fact that you think you know what you're talking about, I'm just pointing out that you don't. Think whatever you like, it doesn't change reality.

But, it's nice you're an office manager or IT director at a law firm I suppose?

I am just going to leave this here
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Do.../PE.42.htm

And no

Same here

http://www.scstatehouse.gov/code/t16c017.php

Quote:SECTION 16-17-530. Public disorderly conduct.

Any person who shall (a) be found on any highway or at any public place or public gathering in a grossly intoxicated condition or otherwise conducting himself in a disorderly or boisterous manner, (b) use obscene or profane language on any highway or at any public place or gathering or in hearing distance of any schoolhouse or church or © while under the influence or feigning to be under the influence of intoxicating liquor, without just cause or excuse, discharge any gun, pistol or other firearm while upon or within fifty yards of any public road or highway, except upon his own premises, shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction shall be fined not more than one hundred dollars or be imprisoned for not more than thirty days.

HISTORY: 1962 Code Section 16-558; 1952 Code Section 16-558; 1949 (46) 466; 1968 (55) 2842; 1969 (56) 153.

And after looking during the discussion over Winston's theatrics in the student union Florida's law is pretty much the same.

But neither those nor Texas laws matter. Missouri's law does.
http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C500-599/5740000010.HTM

Quote:eace disturbance--penalty.

574.010. 1. A person commits the crime of peace disturbance if:

(1) He unreasonably and knowingly disturbs or alarms another person or persons by:

(a) Loud noise; or

(b) Offensive language addressed in a face-to-face manner to a specific individual and uttered under circumstances which are likely to produce an immediate violent response from a reasonable recipient; or

© Threatening to commit a felonious act against any person under circumstances which are likely to cause a reasonable person to fear that such threat may be carried out; or

(d) Fighting; or

(e) Creating a noxious and offensive odor;

(2) He is in a public place or on private property of another without consent and purposely causes inconvenience to another person or persons by unreasonably and physically obstructing:

(a) Vehicular or pedestrian traffic; or

(b) The free ingress or egress to or from a public or private place.

2. Peace disturbance is a class B misdemeanor upon the first conviction. Upon a second or subsequent conviction, peace disturbance is a class A misdemeanor. Upon a third or subsequent conviction, a person shall be sentenced to pay a fine of no less than one thousand dollars and no more than five thousand dollars.

Thank you for that. I figured that the basics principles were the same throughout the states.

Fox now says cop shot first.

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