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RE: Working More Earning Less
Income inequality isn't, in itself, a problem. It's a symptom of a wider problems, plural.
09-27-2014 12:08 PM
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(09-26-2014 04:38 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Income inequality isn't good for the country no matter how you try and spin it.

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Income inequality is a fundamental aspect of capitalism. You want everyone paid the same?

I assume you don't, but you don't define what degree of inequality is a problem. Too deep, I suppose, for you.
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(09-27-2014 12:57 PM)GeorgeBorkFan Wrote:  
(09-26-2014 04:38 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Income inequality isn't good for the country no matter how you try and spin it.

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Income inequality is a fundamental aspect of capitalism. You want everyone paid the same?

I assume you don't, but you don't define what degree of inequality is a problem. Too deep, I suppose, for you.

Exactly. Too much simply causes unrest.

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(09-27-2014 02:56 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-27-2014 12:57 PM)GeorgeBorkFan Wrote:  
(09-26-2014 04:38 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Income inequality isn't good for the country no matter how you try and spin it.

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Income inequality is a fundamental aspect of capitalism. You want everyone paid the same?

I assume you don't, but you don't define what degree of inequality is a problem. Too deep, I suppose, for you.

Exactly. Too much simply causes unrest.


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Yet our government isn't doing anything to lessen the problem save try to take money and redistribute wealth, then cry when those with money off-shore their wealth.

The real focus should be on lifting those up who are at the lower end of spectrum of income. Hell, only about 30% of the population gets a college degree, yet little to nothing is done for the 70% of non-college people.......and crying about a $15 minimum wage isn't lifting up - Higher paying manufacturing jobs is lifting up.
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Man, it's sad to see so many people here not want working americans to earn a livable wage simply because they work in the service industry.
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Promoting higher education is the key.

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I make more money now than I ever have and it goes half as far as it ever did. Explain that. Admittedly my income isn't increasing at the same rates it did in the 90's but it has increased and so has the cost of almost everything else at a much faster rate. I think they have a name for that.
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(09-27-2014 11:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Promoting higher education is the key.

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LOL, I know plenty of educated idiots who are working in a field other than that in which they earned a degree making far less money than myself; and me without a degree. Go figure.

Maybe you meant promoting indoctrination is the key to keeping the prols down? Isn't that what you "educators" are really about these days?
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(09-27-2014 11:00 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Man, it's sad to see so many people here not want working americans to earn a livable wage simply because they work in the service industry.
How often do you ride your unicorn?
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(09-27-2014 11:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Promoting higher education is the key.

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No it's not -not in the slightest. Your response is exactly why the income divide is getting greater.

Fact is, about 70% of the populous never gets a college degree -what do you propose for them? Typical education members response.
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(09-27-2014 11:00 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Man, it's sad to see so many people here not want working americans to earn a livable wage simply because they work in the service industry.

Fact is, service industries don't create wealth. Do you really believe that bringing someone their meal should be high paying? Really?

I guess for you it's screw the business owner making any profit - just give the servers all the money.
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(09-28-2014 10:15 AM)Crebman Wrote:  
(09-27-2014 11:00 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Man, it's sad to see so many people here not want working americans to earn a livable wage simply because they work in the service industry.

Fact is, service industries don't create wealth. Do you really believe that bringing someone their meal should be high paying? Really?

I guess for you it's screw the business owner making any profit - just give the servers all the money.

I wasn't aware a 'livable wage' was considered 'high paying'.

You're arguing against working americans earning enough to live without government assistance, completely oblivious to the fact that large amounts of government assistance goes to those working full time because they don't earn enough. Our low minimum wage just requires you and me to subsidize those businesses because they don't want to pay their employees a liveable wage.

And your complaint about business owners making a profit, it's clear you don't have a great grasp of this subject if you think that an increase in service industry wages will lead to a decrease in profits. It won't, it will simply be transferred onto the consumer as a surprisingly low raise in prices. I guess that Dollar Menu not being a $1.25 menu is more important to you than not keeping full-time workers below the poverty level.
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Although some people are successful and make more money without getting a degree, going to college significantly increases your chances of making a good living.

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Yes, but there needs to be service jobs, and increasing the number of college graduates won't change that. I just don't understand why we can't pay WORKING AMERICANS enough to not have to rely on government assistance.
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(09-28-2014 10:58 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Although some people are successful and make more money without getting a degree, going to college significantly increases your chances of making a good living.

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If you major in STEM or engineering, you are a virtual lock for a very good high paying job.

If you major in business, you've got a fair chance of a high paying job.

If you major in gender studies, well you can join a protest march.
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(09-28-2014 11:00 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  Yes, but there needs to be service jobs, and increasing the number of college graduates won't change that. I just don't understand why we can't pay WORKING AMERICANS enough to not have to rely on government assistance.
You really don't understand that?
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(09-28-2014 10:15 AM)Crebman Wrote:  
(09-27-2014 11:00 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Man, it's sad to see so many people here not want working americans to earn a livable wage simply because they work in the service industry.

Fact is, service industries don't create wealth. Do you really believe that bringing someone their meal should be high paying? Really?

I guess for you it's screw the business owner making any profit - just give the servers all the money.

UCF if you care that much add 2.00 to the price of any meal you buy out and give it to the person taking your order..
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(09-28-2014 10:58 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Although some people are successful and make more money without getting a degree, going to college significantly increases your chances of making a good living.

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Really? I didn't realize teaching karate required a college degree.
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(09-28-2014 03:10 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  
(09-28-2014 10:15 AM)Crebman Wrote:  
(09-27-2014 11:00 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Man, it's sad to see so many people here not want working americans to earn a livable wage simply because they work in the service industry.

Fact is, service industries don't create wealth. Do you really believe that bringing someone their meal should be high paying? Really?

I guess for you it's screw the business owner making any profit - just give the servers all the money.

UCF if you care that much add 2.00 to the price of any meal you buy out and give it to the person taking your order..

No, you're right. It's far better to continue to subsidize businesses paying non-liveable wages with government assistance. That's the republican way, right? Hint, the business interest in either party do not coincide with your or my interests.
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(09-28-2014 03:17 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(09-28-2014 03:10 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  
(09-28-2014 10:15 AM)Crebman Wrote:  
(09-27-2014 11:00 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Man, it's sad to see so many people here not want working americans to earn a livable wage simply because they work in the service industry.

Fact is, service industries don't create wealth. Do you really believe that bringing someone their meal should be high paying? Really?

I guess for you it's screw the business owner making any profit - just give the servers all the money.

UCF if you care that much add 2.00 to the price of any meal you buy out and give it to the person taking your order..

No, you're right. It's far better to continue to subsidize businesses paying non-liveable wages with government assistance. That's the republican way, right? Hint, the business interest in either party do not coincide with your or my interests.

When I was 14 why did I need a livable wage for my shift at DQ?
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