Tried to google it and couldn't find it. I imagine that the 1st tie breaker is head to head and at some point it would it would come down to ranking but now that the BCS is history I really can't imagine what ranking (AP, Coaches, etc.?).

This would be huge if 3 AAC teams ended the season 10-2 with 1 conference loss and 1 non-conference loss and say Marshall & NIU each lost 1 game. Would the committee decide who was the most deserving at that point?

Can anyone enlighten me?

all champions are eligible and the committee can choose from any

Sounds reasonable but do you have a source or link by chance?

2014 Regular Season Tiebreaker Procedure: For the 2014 season, the American Athletic Conference Football Champion will be the team that finishes the regular season with the highest winning percentage in conference games. If more than one team has the same winning percentage, the tied teams are declared co-champions. To determine the College Football Playoff/Host Bowl representative, the co-champion ranked highest by the College Football Playoff Committee will be eligible to receive the automatic bid shared with Conference USA, the Mid-American, Mountain West, and Sun Belt conferences.

Probably the worst possible scenario for the AAC to happen but they way the schedules line up it not unrealistic:

As of now toughest AAC games assume all other AAC games are won: Worst case scenario is 3-four 4 finish 8-1, not likely but still probable. Assuming that would result in at least a two loss champion, I think this is where the AAC would miss having the Championship game and lose the access bid to Marshall if undefeated. ECU is the only top team to play USF and CINCI, for some strange reason UCF does not play CINCI this year. Houston misses both ECU and UCF. An even worse scenario assuming could be Cinci(10-2) and UCF(9-3) finish 8-0 and ECU (10-2 7-1), I could see ECU probably being this highest ranked G5 team but ineligible for the ACCESS Bowl, playing BYU in the Miami bowl against BYU on Monday afternoon game the week before Christmas that no one will see. Granted, I will DVR that game, it would probably be the best of the bowls.

Top 3 8-1
ECU - UCF, @Cinci ECU 1-1 Loses to UCF
CINCI - ECU, Memphis?, @Houston 2-1 Loses ECU
UCF - @ECU, @Houston 1-1 Loses Loses to Houston

4th 8-1 team
Memphis - Houston, 1-1 Loses to Cinci

or

Houston - @Memphis, CINCI, UCF 2-1 lost to Cinci

Also, before any thinks I am slamming the AAC, my 25 year career has been primarily as Crisis and Risk Mitigation PM. So I am trained to look for the worst possible out come, and figure how to mitigate it. So that is why most of my posts can be seen as cynical I am the guy who dreams of figuring how the electoral college can finish 50-50 :)

So let me get this straight...ECU could lose to Cincy, finish 7-1 in conference...and if Cincy also goes 7-1 in conference as well...they would be declared co-champs (even though Cincy won the head to head)? The G5 spot could be given to the highest rated champ, which could be ECU because of non conference sked.

That's interesting.

Of course next year there will be a conf champ game...so this is just a one year thing.

(09-18-2014 10:06 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  So let me get this straight...ECU could lose to Cincy, finish 7-1 in conference...and if Cincy also goes 7-1 in conference as well...they would be declared co-champs (even though Cincy won the head to head)? The G5 spot could be given to the highest rated champ, which could be ECU because of non conference sked.

That's interesting.

Of course next year there will be a conf champ game...so this is just a one year thing.

it is what is best...if we decided the tie breakers ourselves, lets say houston and cincy both finish 7-1 and houston has the tie breaker..houston has already lost to utsa and byu...if we put UH as the sole Representative their a chance another G5 champ jumps houston

some teams actually prefer it this way.. Arkansas states AD believes Conference championship games for G5 are a bad idea and is completely against it for the sunbelt.. we have more to lose and little to gain

everyone likes to talk one extra tough game..but in reality everyone in the g5 to the national media outside of maybe 2 teams a year arent considered tough, and losing to G5 even the good ones are HUGE blows

(09-18-2014 10:06 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  So let me get this straight...ECU could lose to Cincy, finish 7-1 in conference...and if Cincy also goes 7-1 in conference as well...they would be declared co-champs (even though Cincy won the head to head)? The G5 spot could be given to the highest rated champ, which could be ECU because of non conference sked.

That's interesting.

Of course next year there will be a conf champ game...so this is just a one year thing.

Actually, I don't know if the two way tie works that way. I think Head to Head is the first tiebreakers in most conferences. It gets loopy when it gets to three or more teams or the teams did not play each other in the season. Using the 8-0 example of Cincy and UCF, that would be probably go to the rankings but the AAC site should have the tie breaker rules.

Rock Paper Scissors...best of 3

(09-18-2014 10:37 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  

(09-18-2014 10:06 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  So let me get this straight...ECU could lose to Cincy, finish 7-1 in conference...and if Cincy also goes 7-1 in conference as well...they would be declared co-champs (even though Cincy won the head to head)? The G5 spot could be given to the highest rated champ, which could be ECU because of non conference sked.

That's interesting.

Of course next year there will be a conf champ game...so this is just a one year thing.

Actually, I don't know if the two way tie works that way. I think Head to Head is the first tiebreakers in most conferences. It gets loopy when it gets to three or more teams or the teams did not play each other in the season. Using the 8-0 example of Cincy and UCF, that would be probably go to the rankings but the AAC site should have the tie breaker rules.

no head to head tie breakers ...just win percentage then, commitee

(09-18-2014 10:06 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  So let me get this straight...ECU could lose to Cincy, finish 7-1 in conference...and if Cincy also goes 7-1 in conference as well...they would be declared co-champs (even though Cincy won the head to head)? The G5 spot could be given to the highest rated champ, which could be ECU because of non conference sked.

That's interesting.

Of course next year there will be a conf champ game...so this is just a one year thing.

If the goal is to get an AAC team into the G5 Access Bowl spot, then the system makes perfect cents...I mean sense.

Cincy would obviously cry foul, but if ECU is ranked higher by the Selection Committee - you take it. Could you imagine if ECU were ranked #23, Marshall #24, and Cincy #25? If the Selection Committee were prevented from selecting #23 ECU because Cincy was declared the outright American champion, then #24 Marshall gets the Access Bowl spot over the AAC.

(09-18-2014 10:06 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  So let me get this straight...ECU could lose to Cincy, finish 7-1 in conference...and if Cincy also goes 7-1 in conference as well...they would be declared co-champs (even though Cincy won the head to head)? The G5 spot could be given to the highest rated champ, which could be ECU because of non conference sked.

That's interesting.

Of course next year there will be a conf champ game...so this is just a one year thing.

Actually, it could end up being a smart move. Say we have two teams at 7-1 in conference, but one is 11-1 and one is 9-3 and the 9-3 team beat the 11-1 team. The selection committee is going to be looking for the "highest ranked champion" from the G5. If the 11-1 team isn't declared co-champion, then they could be out of the running for the Access Bowl.

The AAC really did a bad job scheduling this year because it could very well be a cluster at the end of the season.

(09-18-2014 11:18 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  

(09-18-2014 10:06 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  So let me get this straight...ECU could lose to Cincy, finish 7-1 in conference...and if Cincy also goes 7-1 in conference as well...they would be declared co-champs (even though Cincy won the head to head)? The G5 spot could be given to the highest rated champ, which could be ECU because of non conference sked.

That's interesting.

Of course next year there will be a conf champ game...so this is just a one year thing.

Actually, it could end up being a smart move. Say we have two teams at 7-1 in conference, but one is 11-1 and one is 9-3 and the 9-3 team beat the 11-1 team. The selection committee is going to be looking for the "highest ranked champion" from the G5. If the 11-1 team isn't declared co-champion, then they could be out of the running for the Access Bowl.

Or the committee could have an easier decision to allow a 13-0 Marshall go because the were the clear cut champion. Could cut both ways. You never know what a committee will decide. Looking if that scenario occurred int the B12, that could force them to have a championship game and not wait for 10 vs 12 team decision.

Lets just hope the Bearcats go 12-0 and this is a non-issue.

(09-18-2014 10:40 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  Rock Paper Scissors...best of 3

That honestly is more reasonable than not honoring any Head to Head games

(09-18-2014 12:11 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  The AAC really did a bad job scheduling this year because it could very well be a cluster at the end of the season.

Yea, seriously I like ECU chances of winning of the conference if UCF/Cincy has an additional loss. But them not playing and ECU having to play both seems a little more daunting than before the season started.

Shouldn't it be less daunting because UCF looks worse than it did before the season started?

(09-18-2014 12:45 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  Shouldn't it be less daunting because UCF looks worse than it did before the season started?

Yea but so does Houston(at the moment). The team UCF/Cincy both play that we miss.

Plus we play UCF last game of the year. UCF could really gel between here and there

(09-18-2014 12:25 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Lets just hope the Bearcats go 12-0 and this is a non-issue.

Don't worry big guy, Memphis plans to knock you out of discussion.