(09-10-2014 08:11 AM)InjunJohn Wrote:  That being said, there has been a ton of parity in the conference over the past few years, with only one outright champ.

Parity?

One conference team has lost only 3 conference games total in the last three years.

And, you better count up the number of "outright champs" again.

(09-10-2014 01:13 PM)asuwon Wrote:  

(09-10-2014 08:11 AM)InjunJohn Wrote:  That being said, there has been a ton of parity in the conference over the past few years, with only one outright champ.

Parity?

One conference team has lost only 3 conference games total in the last three years.

And, you better count up the number of "outright champs" again.

In the fantasy league they create here in the offseason there is parity. If that team can keep a coaching staff for more than a year, they will quickly realize that parity does not exist at all in the SBC.

Here are the updated RG5 - Group of 5 Rankings

http://g5comealive.sportsblog.com/posts/...kings.html

(09-10-2014 02:05 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  Here are the updated RG5 - Group of 5 Rankings

http://g5comealive.sportsblog.com/posts/...kings.html

The whose what?

Credible: able to be believed : reasonable to trust or believe

: good enough to be effective

Probably not, but at least it is a source.

(09-10-2014 01:13 PM)asuwon Wrote:  

(09-10-2014 08:11 AM)InjunJohn Wrote:  That being said, there has been a ton of parity in the conference over the past few years, with only one outright champ.

Parity?

One conference team has lost only 3 conference games total in the last three years.

And, you better count up the number of "outright champs" again.

Sorry....missed one. But I do stand by my comment about parity. There are 4-5 teams in the conference that can (and will) beat anyone in the conference. Every team here has been known to lay an egg in a game that they should have won. ASU, as well as ULL, has had a good 3 year run, just like Troy had a good run. The point is that there could and should be 4-5 bowl teams in the conference, if the typical year holds for the SBC.

(09-10-2014 03:03 PM)InjunJohn Wrote:  There are 4-5 teams in the conference that can (and will) beat anyone in the conference.

Of present Sun Belt members, stAte has only lost one game, against any of them in the last three years.

That doesn't quite meet my definition of parity.

(09-10-2014 03:13 PM)asuwon Wrote:  

(09-10-2014 03:03 PM)InjunJohn Wrote:  There are 4-5 teams in the conference that can (and will) beat anyone in the conference.

Of present Sun Belt members, stAte has only lost one game, against any of them in the last three years.

That doesn't quite meet my definition of parity.

Wow, we played them once. Dynastic domination

(09-10-2014 02:05 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  Here are the updated RG5 - Group of 5 Rankings

http://g5comealive.sportsblog.com/posts/...kings.html

I'm sorry but these are terrible:

13 of the 20 have already lost a game.
2 of the top 7 are winless (albeit one is Cincy)
Marshall hasn't looked like the second best G5 team. I wouldn't even rank them the best in CUSA.
A few of the teams have a blowout loss.

People that criticize the national media for not doing research then vote on a poll on this fashion are hypocrites.

(09-10-2014 03:47 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(09-10-2014 02:05 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  Here are the updated RG5 - Group of 5 Rankings

http://g5comealive.sportsblog.com/posts/...kings.html

I'm sorry but these are terrible:

13 of the 20 have already lost a game.
2 of the top 7 are winless (albeit one is Cincy)
Marshall hasn't looked like the second best G5 team. I wouldn't even rank them the best in CUSA.
A few of the teams have a blowout loss.

People that criticize the national media for not doing research then vote on a poll on this fashion are hypocrites.

Not even mentioning ASU and South Alabama but somehow making a ULM team that has only barely survive what are supposed to be bad football teams a top 10 team, and sticking a Lafayette team that just got embarrassed at home in the top 15 is a joke.

Texas State probably deserves a mention as well, but I can understand saying they haven't played anyone yet.

(09-10-2014 03:32 PM)CatMom Wrote:  Wow, we played them once. Dynastic domination

So, we agree that you had a shot.

How'd that work out for you?

Look... facts are facts. in the last three years ASU has lost one game to a present member of the Sun Belt Conference.

That screams anything, but parity.

(09-10-2014 04:09 PM)asuwon Wrote:  

(09-10-2014 03:32 PM)CatMom Wrote:  Wow, we played them once. Dynastic domination

So, we agree that you had a shot.

How'd that work out for you?

Look... facts are facts. in the last three years ASU has lost one game to a present member of the Sun Belt Conference.

That screams anything, but parity.

Did I write that anywhere? I'll have to go back and check...oh wait

One game does not domination make. Is that a hard thing to understand? (Seems to be for UTSA) Yeah we blew last season but it's still one game any way you slice it. So you can leave us out of that equation.

(09-10-2014 03:13 PM)asuwon Wrote:  

(09-10-2014 03:03 PM)InjunJohn Wrote:  There are 4-5 teams in the conference that can (and will) beat anyone in the conference.

Of present Sun Belt members, stAte has only lost one game, against any of them in the last three years.

That doesn't quite meet my definition of parity.

Somehow I tried to make a complimentary post about the conference and the teams in the conference. I tried to make the point that the SBC will have 4-5 bowl eligible teams and that I see at least 4 in bowls due to history (lack of bowl elgible teams to fill slots) and the increase in the numbers. I make a comment about how the conference is competitive (parity) and you take it as a shot against ASU (or want to make it about ASU). I didn't dog a single school. I didn't take a shot at any school. I even said ASU has had a good 3 year run.....didn't even go back to the years prior to that run.

If you look at the conference standings, in 2012, you had ASU at 7-1 (good on ya) and 3 teams at 6-2. If you look at 2013, you have 2 teams at 5-2 (ASU there) and 4 teams at 4-3. Looks pretty tight to me, especially with the unbalanced schedules all the members have had with realignment. Over the past 4 years, the SBC has improved its OOC record every single year. It has increased the number of bowl eligible teams every single year.

I wasn't trying to turn this into a pissing contest. I thought I was being pretty darn nice. But again I will give ASU credit for being good over the past three years. Great run. Keep it up. Only better for the conference if we have teams winning OOC and bowls.

(09-10-2014 04:37 PM)CatMom Wrote:  One game does not domination make. Is that a hard thing to understand?

Quit throwing up a strawman.

The argument was never about whether "One game does not domination make," Yoda. It was never about what the future holds. Although, I anticipate much more of the same. It was about the past "few years."

It was about this claim...

(09-10-2014 08:11 AM)InjunJohn Wrote:  That being said, there has been a ton of parity in the conference over the past few years, with only one outright champ.

There have been two outright champs in the past three years.

And, when the conference includes a team, who has lost three total conference games in the past three years, and lost only one game in the last three years to an existing member, then I'm quite sure that isn't compatible with any definition of "parity" that you choose to use.

(09-10-2014 08:07 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(09-10-2014 07:04 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(09-10-2014 04:59 AM)AstroCajun Wrote:  

(09-09-2014 08:40 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  Surprised to see McMurphy does not have Louisiana bowling at all.

Its because he's not really paying attention.

If we were to beat Ole Miss this weekend he'd put us in the access bowl.
And he'd be equally as wrong.

We aren't as bad as our showing and maybe Tech has improved. Maybe.

These non-conference games don't mean much when it comes to SBC conference games, and ULM is proof of that.

IMO nothing has happened that make me think that UL is out of the race at all, and are in fact still the favorite.

Most of the teams in the SBC this year are not very good and that will become evident as the season goes along, and I'm sure UL will expose a few of them for what they really are.

Like the way South exposed ULaLa at the end of last season???

I must give credit where its due congrats on exposing a red shirt freshman QB making his first college start. HAHAHAHA congrats man that was your bowl game and you won. Like I said last year we were the only team in America to go 1-2 in bowl games last year.

Lighten up Frances (and company). I was playing off how UTSA considers their 1 game beating us as domination. Jeezus you people have no eye for verbal irony.

(09-10-2014 06:00 PM)CAJUNCOUNTRY Wrote:  

(09-10-2014 08:07 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(09-10-2014 07:04 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(09-10-2014 04:59 AM)AstroCajun Wrote:  

(09-09-2014 08:40 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  Surprised to see McMurphy does not have Louisiana bowling at all.

Its because he's not really paying attention.

If we were to beat Ole Miss this weekend he'd put us in the access bowl.
And he'd be equally as wrong.

We aren't as bad as our showing and maybe Tech has improved. Maybe.

These non-conference games don't mean much when it comes to SBC conference games, and ULM is proof of that.

IMO nothing has happened that make me think that UL is out of the race at all, and are in fact still the favorite.

Most of the teams in the SBC this year are not very good and that will become evident as the season goes along, and I'm sure UL will expose a few of them for what they really are.

Like the way South exposed ULaLa at the end of last season???

I must give credit where its due congrats on exposing a red shirt freshman QB making his first college start. HAHAHAHA congrats man that was your bowl game and you won. Like I said last year we were the only team in America to go 1-2 in bowl games last year.

Only scoring 8 points is when you can mention the QB thing. But you also gave up 30 points to USA. Everyone loses players, it's part of the game. But Broadway doesn't play defense to have kept our offense off the field.

So what happens if Broadway gets hurt again? That mean your season is over?

(09-10-2014 06:28 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(09-10-2014 06:00 PM)CAJUNCOUNTRY Wrote:  

(09-10-2014 08:07 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(09-10-2014 07:04 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(09-10-2014 04:59 AM)AstroCajun Wrote:  Its because he's not really paying attention.

If we were to beat Ole Miss this weekend he'd put us in the access bowl.
And he'd be equally as wrong.

We aren't as bad as our showing and maybe Tech has improved. Maybe.

These non-conference games don't mean much when it comes to SBC conference games, and ULM is proof of that.

IMO nothing has happened that make me think that UL is out of the race at all, and are in fact still the favorite.

Most of the teams in the SBC this year are not very good and that will become evident as the season goes along, and I'm sure UL will expose a few of them for what they really are.

Like the way South exposed ULaLa at the end of last season???

I must give credit where its due congrats on exposing a red shirt freshman QB making his first college start. HAHAHAHA congrats man that was your bowl game and you won. Like I said last year we were the only team in America to go 1-2 in bowl games last year.

Only scoring 8 points is when you can mention the QB thing. But you also gave up 30 points to USA. Everyone loses players, it's part of the game. But Broadway doesn't play defense to have kept our offense off the field.

So what happens if Broadway gets hurt again? That mean your season is over?

Some might argue that after their whipping at the hands of LA Tech, it already is.

(09-10-2014 04:51 PM)InjunJohn Wrote:  

(09-10-2014 03:13 PM)asuwon Wrote:  

(09-10-2014 03:03 PM)InjunJohn Wrote:  There are 4-5 teams in the conference that can (and will) beat anyone in the conference.

Of present Sun Belt members, stAte has only lost one game, against any of them in the last three years.

That doesn't quite meet my definition of parity.

Somehow I tried to make a complimentary post about the conference and the teams in the conference. I tried to make the point that the SBC will have 4-5 bowl eligible teams and that I see at least 4 in bowls due to history (lack of bowl elgible teams to fill slots) and the increase in the numbers. I make a comment about how the conference is competitive (parity) and you take it as a shot against ASU (or want to make it about ASU). I didn't dog a single school. I didn't take a shot at any school. I even said ASU has had a good 3 year run.....didn't even go back to the years prior to that run.

If you look at the conference standings, in 2012, you had ASU at 7-1 (good on ya) and 3 teams at 6-2. If you look at 2013, you have 2 teams at 5-2 (ASU there) and 4 teams at 4-3. Looks pretty tight to me, especially with the unbalanced schedules all the members have had with realignment. Over the past 4 years, the SBC has improved its OOC record every single year. It has increased the number of bowl eligible teams every single year.

I wasn't trying to turn this into a pissing contest. I thought I was being pretty darn nice. But again I will give ASU credit for being good over the past three years. Great run. Keep it up. Only better for the conference if we have teams winning OOC and bowls.

Saying the conference is very competitive is absolutely true, and no team can take a week off and not risk getting beat, that everyone agrees on.

I do understand where ASU is coming from, because it appears many don't respect what they have done the last 3 years, or the circumstances that they had to deal with.

I actually heard a commentator on a national network comment on how UL has dominated the SBC in recent years.

I attribute some that to the fact that UL has been in the NO Bowl for the last 3 years, and many associate that game with the SBC Champion, and that A-State has not been the preseason favorite. I blame that on the fact the national has focus the head coaches moving to high profile jobs, and not A-State.

I see why they feel at least overlooked.

(09-10-2014 06:23 PM)CatMom Wrote:  Lighten up Frances (and company). I was playing off how UTSA considers their 1 game beating us as domination. Jeezus you people have no eye for verbal irony.

So you're saying UTSA has won EVERY football game played against Texas St? Ok I'll take that.

(09-10-2014 07:04 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(09-10-2014 04:59 AM)AstroCajun Wrote:  

(09-09-2014 08:40 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  Surprised to see McMurphy does not have Louisiana bowling at all.

Its because he's not really paying attention.

If we were to beat Ole Miss this weekend he'd put us in the access bowl.
And he'd be equally as wrong.

We aren't as bad as our showing and maybe Tech has improved. Maybe.

These non-conference games don't mean much when it comes to SBC conference games, and ULM is proof of that.

IMO nothing has happened that make me think that UL is out of the race at all, and are in fact still the favorite.

Most of the teams in the SBC this year are not very good and that will become evident as the season goes along, and I'm sure UL will expose a few of them for what they really are.

I agree