Tragic what happened last week. She was only 28.

She worked at FedEx for 3 months, before that at Enterprise. From Russia and lived in Cordova. Sad stuff about her mother too.

Nothing is worth this. I wish she could have gotten some help.

Woman who jumped from the Peabody Hotel Memphis identified as 28 year old Aysylu Valiullina of Cordova, TN. @LocalMemphis

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/aysylu-vali...69/893/616

https://www.giveforward.com/fundraiser/d...mombreathe


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I was also told that she had some mental problems and had been released from Lakeside about 12 hours before her death.

Why is that our/your business? If someone kills themselves you shouldn't suddenly become privy to their personal info.

(09-08-2014 10:17 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Why is that our/your business? If someone kills themselves you shouldn't suddenly become privy to their personal info.

You're right. We should never seek possible motives in why people react the way they do.


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(09-08-2014 10:17 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Why is that our/your business? If someone kills themselves you shouldn't suddenly become privy to their personal info.

So we should respect her privacy? Really? Or should we seek information to protect the next person from themselves? No healthy person leaps from a roof.

(09-08-2014 10:33 PM)georgiatiger Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 10:17 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Why is that our/your business? If someone kills themselves you shouldn't suddenly become privy to their personal info.

So we should respect her privacy? Really? Or should we seek information to protect the next person from themselves? No healthy person leaps from a roof.

His likely response will be "it's her body and was her choice to kill it"


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I agree with both of you...but I fear you're kidding. (sense the sarcasm?)

If someone decides to kill themselves, you don't have some right to know why or understand their decision...we used to have privacy, ah, the good ole days.

(09-08-2014 10:35 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I agree with both of you...but I fear you're kidding. (sense the sarcasm?)

If someone decides to kill themselves, you don't have some right to know why or understand their decision...we used to have privacy, ah, the good ole days.

You mean the good ole days where we used to not put all our private business in public places and then ***** about people reading it?


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(09-08-2014 10:36 PM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 10:35 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I agree with both of you...but I fear you're kidding. (sense the sarcasm?)

If someone decides to kill themselves, you don't have some right to know why or understand their decision...we used to have privacy, ah, the good ole days.

You mean the good ole days where we used to not put all our private business in public places and then ***** about people reading it?


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Did she offer up her reasons online? If not, what right do you have to know?

You want to make this about me, but I suggest you keep your focus on the story.

(09-08-2014 10:35 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I agree with both of you...but I fear you're kidding. (sense the sarcasm?)

If someone decides to kill themselves, you don't have some right to know why or understand their decision...we used to have privacy, ah, the good ole days.

Save the children. On another note, it's a Harvest Moon tonight. Check it out.

(09-08-2014 10:38 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 10:36 PM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 10:35 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I agree with both of you...but I fear you're kidding. (sense the sarcasm?)

If someone decides to kill themselves, you don't have some right to know why or understand their decision...we used to have privacy, ah, the good ole days.

You mean the good ole days where we used to not put all our private business in public places and then ***** about people reading it?


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Did she offer up her reasons online? If not, what right do you have to know?

You want to make this about me, but I suggest you keep your focus on the story.

Drew, you're smarter than this...so I know you are baiting. But sometimes people don't flat out say things and you have to pick up on clues. They may not "offer reasons." Take situations like Sandy Hook and Columbine. These killers may not come straight out and say "I'm pissed because of this" but context clues can piece it together. I can be on board with you saying not to put words in her mouth or if we were dogging her out...but just speculating on what could drive someone to that point is not a bad thing. Hell, my wife made an attempt on her life a little over 2 years ago. At that point if someone saw a context clue that others (myself including) could not see...nothing wrong with it. If they say "she's batshit crazy" because of some of her postings, then yeah, that it uncalled for.

However, I'm failing to see where I made it about you...but whatever you say sir.


But if we are making it about you...aren't you one of the liberal type that when people say "the good ole days" you reply with "you mean days were we used separate water fountains, etc...?

(09-08-2014 10:44 PM)georgiatiger Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 10:35 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I agree with both of you...but I fear you're kidding. (sense the sarcasm?)

If someone decides to kill themselves, you don't have some right to know why or understand their decision...we used to have privacy, ah, the good ole days.

Save the children. On another note, it's a Harvest Moon tonight. Check it out.

Bright as hell outside...pretty crazy

(09-08-2014 10:49 PM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 10:38 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 10:36 PM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 10:35 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I agree with both of you...but I fear you're kidding. (sense the sarcasm?)

If someone decides to kill themselves, you don't have some right to know why or understand their decision...we used to have privacy, ah, the good ole days.

You mean the good ole days where we used to not put all our private business in public places and then ***** about people reading it?


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Did she offer up her reasons online? If not, what right do you have to know?

You want to make this about me, but I suggest you keep your focus on the story.

Drew, you're smarter than this...so I know you are baiting. But sometimes people don't flat out say things and you have to pick up on clues. They may not "offer reasons." Take situations like Sandy Hook and Columbine. These killers may not come straight out and say "I'm pissed because of this" but context clues can piece it together. I can be on board with you saying not to put words in her mouth or if we were dogging her out...but just speculating on what could drive someone to that point is not a bad thing. Hell, my wife made an attempt on her life a little over 2 years ago. At that point if someone saw a context clue that others (myself including) could not see...nothing wrong with it. If they say "she's batshit crazy" because of some of her postings, then yeah, that it uncalled for.

However, I'm failing to see where I made it about you...but whatever you say sir.


But if we are making it about you...aren't you one of the liberal type that when people say "the good ole days" you reply with "you mean days were we used separate water fountains, etc...?

LMFAO. I'm not baiting anything, and I mean every single word I said. Moreover, how dare you compare this lady to some mass murderer.

Again, what right do you have to her medical and personal information?

I believe in privacy...

(09-08-2014 11:07 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 10:49 PM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 10:38 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 10:36 PM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 10:35 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I agree with both of you...but I fear you're kidding. (sense the sarcasm?)

If someone decides to kill themselves, you don't have some right to know why or understand their decision...we used to have privacy, ah, the good ole days.

You mean the good ole days where we used to not put all our private business in public places and then ***** about people reading it?


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Did she offer up her reasons online? If not, what right do you have to know?

You want to make this about me, but I suggest you keep your focus on the story.

Drew, you're smarter than this...so I know you are baiting. But sometimes people don't flat out say things and you have to pick up on clues. They may not "offer reasons." Take situations like Sandy Hook and Columbine. These killers may not come straight out and say "I'm pissed because of this" but context clues can piece it together. I can be on board with you saying not to put words in her mouth or if we were dogging her out...but just speculating on what could drive someone to that point is not a bad thing. Hell, my wife made an attempt on her life a little over 2 years ago. At that point if someone saw a context clue that others (myself including) could not see...nothing wrong with it. If they say "she's batshit crazy" because of some of her postings, then yeah, that it uncalled for.

However, I'm failing to see where I made it about you...but whatever you say sir.


But if we are making it about you...aren't you one of the liberal type that when people say "the good ole days" you reply with "you mean days were we used separate water fountains, etc...?

LMFAO. I'm not baiting anything, and I mean every single word I said. Moreover, how dare you compare this lady to some mass murderer.

Again, what right do you have to her medical and personal information?

I believe in privacy...

This is where you are baiting. Saying I am "comparing" the two people when I am not. I'm comparing the desire to examine mindsets of people who clearly have some issues in their lives.


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(09-08-2014 11:07 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 10:49 PM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 10:38 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 10:36 PM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 10:35 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I agree with both of you...but I fear you're kidding. (sense the sarcasm?)

If someone decides to kill themselves, you don't have some right to know why or understand their decision...we used to have privacy, ah, the good ole days.

You mean the good ole days where we used to not put all our private business in public places and then ***** about people reading it?


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Did she offer up her reasons online? If not, what right do you have to know?

You want to make this about me, but I suggest you keep your focus on the story.

Drew, you're smarter than this...so I know you are baiting. But sometimes people don't flat out say things and you have to pick up on clues. They may not "offer reasons." Take situations like Sandy Hook and Columbine. These killers may not come straight out and say "I'm pissed because of this" but context clues can piece it together. I can be on board with you saying not to put words in her mouth or if we were dogging her out...but just speculating on what could drive someone to that point is not a bad thing. Hell, my wife made an attempt on her life a little over 2 years ago. At that point if someone saw a context clue that others (myself including) could not see...nothing wrong with it. If they say "she's batshit crazy" because of some of her postings, then yeah, that it uncalled for.

However, I'm failing to see where I made it about you...but whatever you say sir.


But if we are making it about you...aren't you one of the liberal type that when people say "the good ole days" you reply with "you mean days were we used separate water fountains, etc...?

LMFAO. I'm not baiting anything, and I mean every single word I said. Moreover, how dare you compare this lady to some mass murderer.

Again, what right do you have to her medical and personal information?

I believe in privacy...

C'mon Drew. The study of mankind has been going on for centuries.

(09-08-2014 11:20 PM)georgiatiger Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 11:07 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 10:49 PM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 10:38 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 10:36 PM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  You mean the good ole days where we used to not put all our private business in public places and then ***** about people reading it?


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Did she offer up her reasons online? If not, what right do you have to know?

You want to make this about me, but I suggest you keep your focus on the story.

Drew, you're smarter than this...so I know you are baiting. But sometimes people don't flat out say things and you have to pick up on clues. They may not "offer reasons." Take situations like Sandy Hook and Columbine. These killers may not come straight out and say "I'm pissed because of this" but context clues can piece it together. I can be on board with you saying not to put words in her mouth or if we were dogging her out...but just speculating on what could drive someone to that point is not a bad thing. Hell, my wife made an attempt on her life a little over 2 years ago. At that point if someone saw a context clue that others (myself including) could not see...nothing wrong with it. If they say "she's batshit crazy" because of some of her postings, then yeah, that it uncalled for.

However, I'm failing to see where I made it about you...but whatever you say sir.


But if we are making it about you...aren't you one of the liberal type that when people say "the good ole days" you reply with "you mean days were we used separate water fountains, etc...?

LMFAO. I'm not baiting anything, and I mean every single word I said. Moreover, how dare you compare this lady to some mass murderer.

Again, what right do you have to her medical and personal information?

I believe in privacy...

C'mon Drew. The study of mankind has been going on for centuries.

Very true. I'm really truly not trying to be an ass, and maybe I need a snickers...but airing someone's dirty laundry right after passing seems like bad form.

That's all I mean, y'all


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(09-08-2014 11:29 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 11:20 PM)georgiatiger Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 11:07 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 10:49 PM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 10:38 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Did she offer up her reasons online? If not, what right do you have to know?

You want to make this about me, but I suggest you keep your focus on the story.

Drew, you're smarter than this...so I know you are baiting. But sometimes people don't flat out say things and you have to pick up on clues. They may not "offer reasons." Take situations like Sandy Hook and Columbine. These killers may not come straight out and say "I'm pissed because of this" but context clues can piece it together. I can be on board with you saying not to put words in her mouth or if we were dogging her out...but just speculating on what could drive someone to that point is not a bad thing. Hell, my wife made an attempt on her life a little over 2 years ago. At that point if someone saw a context clue that others (myself including) could not see...nothing wrong with it. If they say "she's batshit crazy" because of some of her postings, then yeah, that it uncalled for.

However, I'm failing to see where I made it about you...but whatever you say sir.


But if we are making it about you...aren't you one of the liberal type that when people say "the good ole days" you reply with "you mean days were we used separate water fountains, etc...?

LMFAO. I'm not baiting anything, and I mean every single word I said. Moreover, how dare you compare this lady to some mass murderer.

Again, what right do you have to her medical and personal information?

I believe in privacy...

C'mon Drew. The study of mankind has been going on for centuries.

Very true. I'm really truly not trying to be an ass, and maybe I need a snickers...but airing someone's dirty laundry right after passing seems like bad form.

That's all I mean, y'all


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I get ya.

But how 'bout that moon? Once a year. Edit: wait, wrong thread.

Its for the deceased and their loved ones to reveal. No one else is entitled to that information. I can't imagine any new epiphany into suicides in general that haven't already been disclosed from the spectrum of previous suicides over the past centuries.

If we're the best people we can be, suicides and personal violations will be minimized to tragic outliers. If this is about learning, ask permission courteously and respect rejection. Otherwise, focus on ourselves, being better to each other. If we never ever let go of the pursuit of improvement in that area, we're doing all we can. If we let go of that pursuit, looking for explanations elsewhere is a distraction, possibly an excuse for doing less.

(09-08-2014 11:46 PM)georgiatiger Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 11:29 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 11:20 PM)georgiatiger Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 11:07 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 10:49 PM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  Drew, you're smarter than this...so I know you are baiting. But sometimes people don't flat out say things and you have to pick up on clues. They may not "offer reasons." Take situations like Sandy Hook and Columbine. These killers may not come straight out and say "I'm pissed because of this" but context clues can piece it together. I can be on board with you saying not to put words in her mouth or if we were dogging her out...but just speculating on what could drive someone to that point is not a bad thing. Hell, my wife made an attempt on her life a little over 2 years ago. At that point if someone saw a context clue that others (myself including) could not see...nothing wrong with it. If they say "she's batshit crazy" because of some of her postings, then yeah, that it uncalled for.

However, I'm failing to see where I made it about you...but whatever you say sir.


But if we are making it about you...aren't you one of the liberal type that when people say "the good ole days" you reply with "you mean days were we used separate water fountains, etc...?

LMFAO. I'm not baiting anything, and I mean every single word I said. Moreover, how dare you compare this lady to some mass murderer.

Again, what right do you have to her medical and personal information?

I believe in privacy...

C'mon Drew. The study of mankind has been going on for centuries.

Very true. I'm really truly not trying to be an ass, and maybe I need a snickers...but airing someone's dirty laundry right after passing seems like bad form.

That's all I mean, y'all


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I get ya.

But how 'bout that moon? Once a year. Edit: wait, wrong thread.

Moon is crazy tonight, it's like daylight.

I couldn't sleep most of the night...and even found a new thread. Had a private harvest moon concert.



I've known ten+ people who committed suicide, none of whom were family members: Three hangings, three shootings, three jumpers in our town of 3500, three deliberate ODs on drugs.... and ONE walked off into the mountains in the dead of winter with no gear.

The one who walked into the wilderness was a very private person when he was alive. I only spoke with him about 10 times total. He left no mess for anyone to clean, and his partially eaten body was found in the spring thaw.

Anyone who happened to witness, or find the others is pretty much messed up about the experience to this day.

I got no opinion on the question of whether people who kill themselves deserve privacy. But if they really wanted privacy I figure they would have done it privately.

O well, maybe I'm a little jaded, having seen so many family members endure the aftermath.