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(09-07-2014 03:01 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(09-07-2014 10:32 AM)Digi368 Wrote:  CUSA is 7-12 against FBS, 0-12 against P5, 7-0 against G5

7-0 vs G5 is the best news thus far. CUSA as a whole has played some of the better teams in the P5 so I am not especially shocked with the 0-12

Wins against New Mexicos mean 01-rivals Houston is your premiere win, not exactly great. And better teams? Illinois, Miss St (twice), Zona, NCSU, Minnesota, TTU, Nebraska (way overrated every year), Texas (again overrated).
All mid to lower tier P5 teams.

The only "top" p5 teams you've played are Bama, ND (borderline), and Okie. You should be at least 4-8 right now.
The Vandy win is not a good one. Vandy is awful. And guess what else is???????03-lmfao
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(09-07-2014 04:28 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  Our schedule against the G5 this coming week...

Ohio @ Marshall
Eastern Michigan @ Old Dominion
Tulsa @ Florida Atlantic
New Mexico State @ UTEP

No reason not to go 4-0 here.

Please let FAU take Tulsa to the woodshed. 04-rock
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(09-07-2014 04:14 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Clearly New CUSA owns Old CUSA(AAC) in the state of TX, way to go UTSA and North Texas. I think the current CUSA line up has lots of growth potential. Not sure AAC is going to be ranked that far ahead of CUSA for many more seasons, unless they win some statement games.

regardless of any short term initial success or in future, it shouldn't matter which g5 conference excels.....with the p5 expediting the smelting process of the iron fist - the ncaa (their ore was/is nothing but a figment of the imagination anyway), the end result could potentially match the earning power of the NFL....and those p5 greedy bastards know this....

there is a reason the g5 is being branded with the submissive scarlet alpha/numeric tag

I seriously believe it will only be a ~decade before we see that control fully take effect....it all depends how long the court battles last....the p5 is 9/10 of the law now....it's nothing more than defining what that means moving forward in earning power....
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Does anyone know how the distribution for the G5 will work? It looks like CUSA may get more if we win more games over the other G5 conferences from this article: http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-footbal...up-of-five
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I think its pretty clear that CUSA is the top G5 school thus far.
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Am I the only one that finds it hilarious that the AAC is 1-11 against FBS schools and winless against other G5 schools? They call themselves the +1 conference and call us the G4, seriously?
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(09-07-2014 05:52 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(09-07-2014 04:14 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Clearly New CUSA owns Old CUSA(AAC) in the state of TX, way to go UTSA and North Texas. I think the current CUSA line up has lots of growth potential. Not sure AAC is going to be ranked that far ahead of CUSA for many more seasons, unless they win some statement games.

regardless of any short term initial success or in future, it shouldn't matter which g5 conference excels.....with the p5 expediting the smelting process of the iron fist - the ncaa (their ore was/is nothing but a figment of the imagination anyway), the end result could potentially match the earning power of the NFL....and those p5 greedy bastards know this....

there is a reason the g5 is being branded with the submissive scarlet alpha/numeric tag

I seriously believe it will only be a ~decade before we see that control fully take effect....it all depends how long the court battles last....the p5 is 9/10 of the law now....it's nothing more than defining what that means moving forward in earning power....

While ESPN brought exposure to college football not imagined until the 1990's they have ruined it with the influx of money. At some point the players will start legally getting paid, maybe as much as the professors at the universities they play at. This is wrong. College football needs to remain an amateur sport and the race for higher revenues stopped.
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(09-07-2014 06:34 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  I think its pretty clear that CUSA is the top G5 school thus far.

But the question remains how is that actually determined. I am unable to get confirmation on how this will be done. Again, this is important, because there is so much money tied to the performance side of the revenues each conference will receive.
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(09-07-2014 06:32 PM)RougeDawg Wrote:  Does anyone know how the distribution for the G5 will work? It looks like CUSA may get more if we win more games over the other G5 conferences from this article: http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-footbal...up-of-five

I have been trying for weeks to research the answer to this question. It's ostensibly a state secret
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(09-07-2014 08:27 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  
(09-07-2014 06:32 PM)RougeDawg Wrote:  Does anyone know how the distribution for the G5 will work? It looks like CUSA may get more if we win more games over the other G5 conferences from this article: http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-footbal...up-of-five

I have been trying for weeks to research the answer to this question. It's ostensibly a state secret

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Two CUSA team's have beaten an AAC team, with that being said I wouldn't act like you have a crown..
The Houston win was a great one and I applaud you for it, but thats it.
I wouldn't run my mouth over beating SMU either.

As for the FBS record,

Tulsa didn't play a G5 team.
Cincinnati has yet to play period.
ECU didn't play a G5 team lost to South Carolina.
USF didn't play a G5 team lost to Maryland.
UCF didn't play a G5 team lost to PSU
UCONN lost to BYU who is now ranked.
Temple lost to Navy a team joining us next year.
Memphis lost by 1 TD to #11 UCLA also has not played a G5.

You guys are making numbers look A LOT better than they really are, the reason why our FBS record his horrid is because of the amount of Power Conferences we played. And the fact that the two teams that actually played teams that were not ended up being bad.
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(09-07-2014 09:44 PM)grapes Wrote:  Two CUSA team's have beaten an AAC team, with that being said I wouldn't act like you have a crown..
The Houston win was a great one and I applaud you for it, but thats it.
I wouldn't run my mouth over beating SMU either.

As for the FBS record,

Tulsa didn't play a G5 team.
Cincinnati has yet to play period.
ECU didn't play a G5 team.
USF didn't play a G5 team.
UCF didn't play a G5 team.
UCONN played BYU who is now ranked.
Temple lost to Navy a team joining us next year.
Memphis lost by 1 TD to #11 UCLA

You guys are making numbers look A LOT better than they really are, the reason why our FBS record his horrid is because of the amount of Power Conferences we played. And the fact that the two teams that actually played teams that were not ended up being bad.

Huh. What the hell? C-USA has played five more P5 games than the AAC.

I don't really give a crap about conference chest beating. Waste of energy, but so far C-USA has beat the projected #1 of the MAC, Sun Belt and the #2 or 3 (IIRC) of the AAC and none of those wins came with our projected #1. We've performed better than anyone else to date, but there is still a lot of football left to play, so who knows what it will look like at the end of the year.

At any rate, you guys appear to be very much improved this year. Should be a very competitive game in a few weeks.
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(09-07-2014 08:15 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  
(09-07-2014 05:52 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(09-07-2014 04:14 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Clearly New CUSA owns Old CUSA(AAC) in the state of TX, way to go UTSA and North Texas. I think the current CUSA line up has lots of growth potential. Not sure AAC is going to be ranked that far ahead of CUSA for many more seasons, unless they win some statement games.

regardless of any short term initial success or in future, it shouldn't matter which g5 conference excels.....with the p5 expediting the smelting process of the iron fist - the ncaa (their ore was/is nothing but a figment of the imagination anyway), the end result could potentially match the earning power of the NFL....and those p5 greedy bastards know this....

there is a reason the g5 is being branded with the submissive scarlet alpha/numeric tag

I seriously believe it will only be a ~decade before we see that control fully take effect....it all depends how long the court battles last....the p5 is 9/10 of the law now....it's nothing more than defining what that means moving forward in earning power....

While ESPN brought exposure to college football not imagined until the 1990's they have ruined it with the influx of money. At some point the players will start legally getting paid, maybe as much as the professors at the universities they play at. This is wrong. College football needs to remain an amateur sport and the race for higher revenues stopped.


this is the 'why' in the current state....the future state is a different prescription of acceptance....

from a personal level of relativity.....

I gave up MLB and was born in StL.........

when the players struck in 1981, I was truthfully educated how greed really works (from a business, player, and fan perspective)

it was then that all the learned sociological bs finally nutted me out....

I started showing interest 20+ years later when the owners/selig finally started to sweep up most of the bs and return the GAME to the ones that filled their pockets....

does the bs still exist.....of course it does....but two sides finally got together and decided that shared revenue was better than no revenue....and it continually moves forward with a governing body that has regained credibility

college athletics is an entire other animal.....you are right that it is "wrong" based on history.....the same kind of schmucks are running this into the ground.....

I already lived through this story.....it's not worth an encore.....and it is painful to watch the last bit of amateur sportsmen and attached ethics fly away into the nest of haves vs have nots....perception is fully recognized when this becomes defined

I'm only one guy.....but so is every season ticket holder, g5 alum, cable/sat subscriber, fair weather fan.....

I'll be dead before this shite becomes applicable in my world moving forward....

I've said it before many times in previous posts.....you won't hear from me again after this year (just needed this masochistic year to suffer through the meltdown)....I refuse to support this bullying and the biatchfest that ensues from the consumer....it's tiresome


the lines have been drawn....they are invisible only with a numbing agent at this point....the numbing agent is not acceptable in a figurative sense or my cents....
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(09-07-2014 10:56 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(09-07-2014 07:13 AM)sfg22 Wrote:  AAC is 1-11 against FBS, 1-7 against P5, 0-4 against G5
CUSA is 7-12 against FBS, 0-12 against P5, 7-0 against G5
MAC is 2-13 against FBS, 2-8 against P5, 0-4 against G5
MWC is 2-11 against FBS, 2-10 against P5, 0-1 against G5
Sun Belt is 2-6 against FBS, 1-4 against P5, 1-2 against G5

Note: G5 record includes all independents except Notre Dame.

So let me get this straight...

C-USA has played 19 games verses FBS team.
AAC's played 12 against FBS teams.
MWC's played 13 against other FBS teams.
MAC's played 15 games against FBS teams.
And the Sun Belt has played just 8 games against FBS programs

I don't mind programs scheduling an FCS team, but it seems some conferences might be loading up on those games a little too much.

Guess I should have said OOC only. I didn't include conference games.
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(09-07-2014 09:50 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  
(09-07-2014 09:44 PM)grapes Wrote:  Two CUSA team's have beaten an AAC team, with that being said I wouldn't act like you have a crown..
The Houston win was a great one and I applaud you for it, but thats it.
I wouldn't run my mouth over beating SMU either.

As for the FBS record,

Tulsa didn't play a G5 team.
Cincinnati has yet to play period.
ECU didn't play a G5 team.
USF didn't play a G5 team.
UCF didn't play a G5 team.
UCONN played BYU who is now ranked.
Temple lost to Navy a team joining us next year.
Memphis lost by 1 TD to #11 UCLA

You guys are making numbers look A LOT better than they really are, the reason why our FBS record his horrid is because of the amount of Power Conferences we played. And the fact that the two teams that actually played teams that were not ended up being bad.

Huh. What the hell? C-USA has played five more P5 games than the AAC.

I don't really give a crap about conference chest beating. Waste of energy, but so far C-USA has beat the projected #1 of the MAC, Sun Belt and the #2 or 3 (IIRC) of the AAC and none of those wins came with our projected #1. We've performed better than anyone else to date, but there is still a lot of football left to play.

At any rate, you guys appear to be very much improved this year. Should be a very competitive game in a few weeks.

More teams is why you've played more P5 teams and the fact that FAU has already played two in the first two weeks. Bottom line is our TOP teams in our conference have yet to play any G5 FBS teams and make our record good. Thats simply the reason behind it being bad.

As for the top teams I highly doubt any G5 could take down East Carolina, Central Florida or Cincinnati. Beating Houston appears good from just looking at their record last year but you honestly cant count that a good win until they play some more games.

Memphis will be ready for MT. 05-stirthepot
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(09-07-2014 08:27 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  
(09-07-2014 06:32 PM)RougeDawg Wrote:  Does anyone know how the distribution for the G5 will work? It looks like CUSA may get more if we win more games over the other G5 conferences from this article: http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-footbal...up-of-five

I have been trying for weeks to research the answer to this question. It's ostensibly a state secret

Not sure if the link provided will give the answers you're looking for, though there may be some links within the story that help. For instance, there's the comment that 'documents' obtained (here) and (here) by CBSSports.com detailing the revenue split among those four leagues -- Sun Belt, Conference USA, MAC and Mountain West..

Last year, the Sun Belt finished first among the non-AQ conferences and was awarded almost $4MM.

http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/writer/d...ear-of-bcs
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Just want to clarify this grapes. You claimed the reason your record was so bad is because you played so many more P5, but when challenged that we played five more you claimed that was because of number of teams. So, let's do this the right way. The reality is you've played 67% of your non-conference against P5 whereas C-USA has played 63% percent against P5. That's a one game difference.

That said there isn't much we can tell about two weeks of football, but this is unfortunately how football is judged. Just look at the Big 10. After this past weekend every pundit is saying they are done. No chance at one of the playoff spots. And to this date C-USA is 7-0 and AAC is 0-4. We may not win another and the AAC may win every non-conf game the rest of the season, but for most teams (Cincy not withstanding) half of the non-conf schedule has been played.
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Here are the direct links to those two "documents" and I do believe they'll give more insight into how the conferences were ranked at year's end.

http://www.cbssports.com/images/collegef...nkings.pdf

http://www.cbssports.com/images/collegef...bution.pdf

Note that the AAC was not included in these documents because it was considered AQ last year (2013).
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(09-07-2014 10:22 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  
(09-07-2014 08:27 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  
(09-07-2014 06:32 PM)RougeDawg Wrote:  Does anyone know how the distribution for the G5 will work? It looks like CUSA may get more if we win more games over the other G5 conferences from this article: http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-footbal...up-of-five

I have been trying for weeks to research the answer to this question. It's ostensibly a state secret

Not sure if the link provided will give the answers you're looking for, though there may be some links within the story that help. For instance, there's the comment that 'documents' obtained (here) and (here) by CBSSports.com detailing the revenue split among those four leagues -- Sun Belt, Conference USA, MAC and Mountain West..

Last year, the Sun Belt finished first among the non-AQ conferences and was awarded almost $4MM.

http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/writer/d...ear-of-bcs


Doesn't help. BCS is done. New model is in place this year. That info doesn't tell us anything about this year.

That said, I know how the money distribution allocates for this year. I just don't know how G5 leagues 1 through 5 are going to be ranked and what methodology is going to be used to derive those rankings.
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(09-07-2014 10:34 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  
(09-07-2014 10:22 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  
(09-07-2014 08:27 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  
(09-07-2014 06:32 PM)RougeDawg Wrote:  Does anyone know how the distribution for the G5 will work? It looks like CUSA may get more if we win more games over the other G5 conferences from this article: http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-footbal...up-of-five

I have been trying for weeks to research the answer to this question. It's ostensibly a state secret

Not sure if the link provided will give the answers you're looking for, though there may be some links within the story that help. For instance, there's the comment that 'documents' obtained (here) and (here) by CBSSports.com detailing the revenue split among those four leagues -- Sun Belt, Conference USA, MAC and Mountain West..

Last year, the Sun Belt finished first among the non-AQ conferences and was awarded almost $4MM.

http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/writer/d...ear-of-bcs


Doesn't help. BCS is done. New model is in place this year. That info doesn't tell us anything about this year.

That said, I know how the money distribution allocates for this year. I just don't know how G5 leagues 1 through 5 are going to be ranked and what methodology is going to be used to derive those rankings.

Ok, but would it not be logical that they'd use a similar methodology to what was used in the past? Of course, placing the NCAA and logical in the same sentence might be a stretch.
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