Quote:Conference USA made mistake with FIU invite

Welcome to "Second Guess Tuesday."

Here are the opinions du jour.

It appears Conference USA made a poor choice when it invited FIU to join.

Other than its location in the football recruiting Mecca of Miami in South Florida, what else does Florida International offer?

Nothing.

FIU's athletic department has a bad reputation.

The Panthers' football program has lost 12 of 13 games since joining C-USA.

The school averaged just 15,453 fans in 23,500-seat FIU Stadium in 2013, ranking No. 12 in the 14-member league.

And on top of all that negativity, now FIU's leadership has created nation-wide criticism by refusing to give Miami Herald beat writer David Neal a working press credential.

FIU athletic director Pete Garcia reportedly banned Neal without any explanation.

As a result, the Herald chose not to cover FIU's season-opening 14-12 loss to FCS member Bethune-Cookman last weekend.

The newspaper took an admirable stance.

According to Neal, who had covered FIU since June, 2011, his access to coaches and athletes steadily had been dwindling.

It reached the point he wasn't allowed to attend football practices or conduct interviews.

Then, when Neal attempted to write a story on the FIU women's soccer team, he allegedly was told no one was allowed to talk to him.

So, is Neal a muckraker?

I don't think so.

After sitting next to Neal during Marshall's 48-10 road win over FIU in 2013, I found him to be a personable, easy-going guy who endured covering FIU with a smile on his face.

The irony is FIU cited "media coverage that is professional," despite having arguably the most unprofessional press box in FBS.

Conference USA officials already have reprimanded FIU for that.

Another reprimand is in order.

And then some.

Remember, FIU was offered membership so C-USA could have a piece of the Miami television market.

But now?

Conference USA doesn't even have the Miami newspaper market.

Marshall's veterans have to play smarter than they did at Miami (0hio).

http://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/x5...FIU-invite

That program has turned into a real dumpster fire which goes against the commonly-held belief that once freed from Belt bondage, all programs soar to new heights.

Fire Pete Garcia ***SOLVED****

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(09-04-2014 10:16 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

Quote:Conference USA made mistake with FIU invite

Welcome to "Second Guess Tuesday."

Here are the opinions du jour.

It appears Conference USA made a poor choice when it invited FIU to join.

Other than its location in the football recruiting Mecca of Miami in South Florida, what else does Florida International offer?

Nothing.

FIU's athletic department has a bad reputation.

The Panthers' football program has lost 12 of 13 games since joining C-USA.

The school averaged just 15,453 fans in 23,500-seat FIU Stadium in 2013, ranking No. 12 in the 14-member league.

And on top of all that negativity, now FIU's leadership has created nation-wide criticism by refusing to give Miami Herald beat writer David Neal a working press credential.

FIU athletic director Pete Garcia reportedly banned Neal without any explanation.

As a result, the Herald chose not to cover FIU's season-opening 14-12 loss to FCS member Bethune-Cookman last weekend.

The newspaper took an admirable stance.

According to Neal, who had covered FIU since June, 2011, his access to coaches and athletes steadily had been dwindling.

It reached the point he wasn't allowed to attend football practices or conduct interviews.

Then, when Neal attempted to write a story on the FIU women's soccer team, he allegedly was told no one was allowed to talk to him.

So, is Neal a muckraker?

I don't think so.

After sitting next to Neal during Marshall's 48-10 road win over FIU in 2013, I found him to be a personable, easy-going guy who endured covering FIU with a smile on his face.

The irony is FIU cited "media coverage that is professional," despite having arguably the most unprofessional press box in FBS.

Conference USA officials already have reprimanded FIU for that.

Another reprimand is in order.

And then some.

Remember, FIU was offered membership so C-USA could have a piece of the Miami television market.

But now?

Conference USA doesn't even have the Miami newspaper market.

Marshall's veterans have to play smarter than they did at Miami (0hio).

http://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/x5...FIU-invite

That program has turned into a real dumpster fire which goes against the commonly-held belief that once freed from Belt bondage, all programs soar to new heights.

Another flaw in the major media market philosophy adhered to by Banowsky.

They have a really really bad AD

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(09-04-2014 10:22 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(09-04-2014 10:16 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

Quote:Conference USA made mistake with FIU invite

Welcome to "Second Guess Tuesday."

Here are the opinions du jour.

It appears Conference USA made a poor choice when it invited FIU to join.

Other than its location in the football recruiting Mecca of Miami in South Florida, what else does Florida International offer?

Nothing.

FIU's athletic department has a bad reputation.

The Panthers' football program has lost 12 of 13 games since joining C-USA.

The school averaged just 15,453 fans in 23,500-seat FIU Stadium in 2013, ranking No. 12 in the 14-member league.

And on top of all that negativity, now FIU's leadership has created nation-wide criticism by refusing to give Miami Herald beat writer David Neal a working press credential.

FIU athletic director Pete Garcia reportedly banned Neal without any explanation.

As a result, the Herald chose not to cover FIU's season-opening 14-12 loss to FCS member Bethune-Cookman last weekend.

The newspaper took an admirable stance.

According to Neal, who had covered FIU since June, 2011, his access to coaches and athletes steadily had been dwindling.

It reached the point he wasn't allowed to attend football practices or conduct interviews.

Then, when Neal attempted to write a story on the FIU women's soccer team, he allegedly was told no one was allowed to talk to him.

So, is Neal a muckraker?

I don't think so.

After sitting next to Neal during Marshall's 48-10 road win over FIU in 2013, I found him to be a personable, easy-going guy who endured covering FIU with a smile on his face.

The irony is FIU cited "media coverage that is professional," despite having arguably the most unprofessional press box in FBS.

Conference USA officials already have reprimanded FIU for that.

Another reprimand is in order.

And then some.

Remember, FIU was offered membership so C-USA could have a piece of the Miami television market.

But now?

Conference USA doesn't even have the Miami newspaper market.

Marshall's veterans have to play smarter than they did at Miami (0hio).

http://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/x5...FIU-invite

That program has turned into a real dumpster fire which goes against the commonly-held belief that once freed from Belt bondage, all programs soar to new heights.

Another flaw in the major media market philosophy adhered to by Banowsky.

Correct. Being in a major market does nothing at all to help you build a successful program. IF you can build and sustain success in a large market there is the potential to tap into the population but there are few examples of that working so far. You have to balance the problems that come with being located in a large market while making the right moves to give that potential audience something worth watching.

FIU actually dodged a bullet by not having Miami Herald coverage
of their loss to Bethune-Cookman, an FCS school.

I hate to see FIU turn into this "dumpster fire". They hired the wrong people, and they are paying for it many times over. I agree.....get rid of Garcia yesterday!

would love to know what @$##ed off the AD to ban the reporter, anyway, no matter why he did it, it was a dumb move considering that they operate in an area where they already get almost no coverage to begin with, sure the USA commissioner is a real happy camper right now.

(09-04-2014 10:52 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  FIU actually dodged a bullet by not having Miami Herald coverage
of their loss to Bethune-Cookman, an FCS school.

Firing Cristobal was one of the biggest mistakes in FBS history.

(09-04-2014 11:00 AM)panama Wrote:  

(09-04-2014 10:52 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  FIU actually dodged a bullet by not having Miami Herald coverage
of their loss to Bethune-Cookman, an FCS school.

Firing Cristobal was one of the biggest mistakes in FBS history.

Agree. Must have been something we do not know. Too stupid
otherwise.

(09-04-2014 11:00 AM)panama Wrote:  

(09-04-2014 10:52 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  FIU actually dodged a bullet by not having Miami Herald coverage
of their loss to Bethune-Cookman, an FCS school.

Firing Cristobal was one of the biggest mistakes in FBS history.

Well that's a little drastic ... yes a bad decision, but lets not go overboard here.

Addition by subtraction.


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(09-04-2014 10:55 AM)moehler Wrote:  would love to know what @$##ed off the AD to ban the reporter, anyway, no matter why he did it, it was a dumb move considering that they operate in an area where they already get almost no coverage to begin with, sure the USA commissioner is a real happy camper right now.

A lot of these mental midget A.D.'s believe that the local beat reporter is the mouthpiece of a university and is supposed to spread their message of goodwill and sunshine no matter what. A.D's and SID's believe they should control the message, and anyone who goes against their message is the enemy, and they'll find anyway to squash that.
ETSU's former president/A.D. tried that for years, and for the most part, the local papers/tv stations fell in line. The only credible journalist who didn't adhere to the "it's okay we dropped football and play in the halfway house conference of Division I" mantra now writes for the Houston Chronicle (Brian T. Smith).
That whole thing is a disgrace, the best thing to do would be to give them the coverage and just completely bash FIU for everything they do off the field, without trashing the players on the field. Let the scores/performance do that and simply report facts.
I'll use Boone for instance, when someone steps up and calls out App's current staff if they have a really bad year, the same thing will happen.
The ONLY reason his credential should've been yanked would be for inappropriate contact with a student athlete. They know the protocol on contact, but I highly doubt that's what happened.

(09-04-2014 11:12 AM)Eagleditka Wrote:  Addition by subtraction.


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I would take back fau and fiu for Idaho and NMSU any day of the week...

(09-04-2014 11:11 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(09-04-2014 11:00 AM)panama Wrote:  

(09-04-2014 10:52 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  FIU actually dodged a bullet by not having Miami Herald coverage
of their loss to Bethune-Cookman, an FCS school.

Firing Cristobal was one of the biggest mistakes in FBS history.

Well that's a little drastic ... yes a bad decision, but lets not go overboard here.

Considering where they were and the impact that firing would have on their program...yes, not far from the truth. FIU is going to have a tough road until they fire Pete Garcia and hire a HC who can recruit in Dade County kitchens and living rooms. Its unbelievable where they were just a couple years ago vs. today.

(09-04-2014 11:34 AM)GeauxUL Wrote:  

(09-04-2014 11:12 AM)Eagleditka Wrote:  Addition by subtraction.


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I would take back fau and fiu for Idaho and NMSU any day of the week...

I'd take back FAU for Idaho, but Id rather have NMSU all sports than FIU.

That being said, there is not a conference AD who misses the trips to Florida.

Butt Marketz!

I don't want to pile on because it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to write a similar article about us in the Sun Belt. The difference is that I feel like we're learning from our mistakes and keeping a steady upward trajectory, while FIU may just not have the right leadership in place...and that's a fatal flaw that has to be corrected quickly.

(09-04-2014 11:50 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(09-04-2014 11:34 AM)GeauxUL Wrote:  

(09-04-2014 11:12 AM)Eagleditka Wrote:  Addition by subtraction.


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I would take back fau and fiu for Idaho and NMSU any day of the week...

I'd take back FAU for Idaho, but Id rather have NMSU all sports than FIU.

That being said, there is not a conference AD who misses the trips to Florida.

Until we get them for all sports, give me fiu. And I'm not following your AD comment...you're telling me the ADs would rather travel to New Mexico and Idaho over Florida??

FIU is 2 seasons (going on 3) removed from...

8-5 bowl
7-6 bowl (SBC Co champs)

ANY of us can turn into them with a bad hire and to be honest at some point over the next 10 years most of us will make that bad hire. It might not be 1-11 bad but a few of us will most likely make a hire that will give us 3-9, 4-8 type seasons