This is really really bad news, it lessens the chance of being competitive vs Northwestern if you don't make a decision and settle on someone. This is quite disappointing to hear.

(08-18-2014 03:46 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  This has been an interesting camp for sure. With all the practice notes where nobody has said Maddie has the lead, they must think this kid is just gonna be lights out when the real game is here. Which is possible, guys with running ability aren't always the easiest to gauge in practice. Not saying he's Manziel but they didn't name Manziel until late at A&M and then look what he did in games.

It seems as if they want lightning in a bottle and not necessarily the safe passer given all this. That's just what it seems like to me. Otherwise I feel Hare or Mcintosh would have been named by now. Especially since they put Matt in first in mop up time last year each time.

Yeah, again, I think this is the most logical explanation of what's going on.

I just can't believe that they are that even. to me then, Maddie sucks at passing, Hare sucks at running and McIntosh is just average at running and passing.

(08-18-2014 03:49 PM)7 Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 03:46 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  This has been an interesting camp for sure. With all the practice notes where nobody has said Maddie has the lead, they must think this kid is just gonna be lights out when the real game is here. Which is possible, guys with running ability aren't always the easiest to gauge in practice. Not saying he's Manziel but they didn't name Manziel until late at A&M and then look what he did in games.

It seems as if they want lightning in a bottle and not necessarily the safe passer given all this. That's just what it seems like to me. Otherwise I feel Hare or Mcintosh would have been named by now. Especially since they put Matt in first in mop up time last year each time.

Yeah, again, I think this is the most logical explanation of what's going on.

Like tim said, its a coaches job to put his team in best position to win and evaluate who that person is, this comes off as being somewhat lazy to me and does not put NIU in the best position to win come 9/6.

Also, with how close this is you have to think one of them is going to transfer. Maddie, he might stay because he paid his own way for a year and already trasnferred once. He could change positions too. McIntosh might stay because he'll have to go FCS to play (but I still think he might go, think SIU or Indiana State...also could switch positions), and if Hare isn't made the starter I would bet he's gone for sure.

(08-18-2014 03:43 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  This reminds me a bit (just a bit) of the Harnish vs Grady situation. Just glad that we get a warm up game first to try to sort it out.

All this does is push back the learning period into the northwestern game, and that is a recipe for U-G-L-I-N-E-S-S

What was even the point of summer practices if a coach cant decide on a starter, this just puts the team behind the curve right out of the gate.

(08-18-2014 03:49 PM)7 Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 03:46 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  This has been an interesting camp for sure. With all the practice notes where nobody has said Maddie has the lead, they must think this kid is just gonna be lights out when the real game is here. Which is possible, guys with running ability aren't always the easiest to gauge in practice. Not saying he's Manziel but they didn't name Manziel until late at A&M and then look what he did in games.

It seems as if they want lightning in a bottle and not necessarily the safe passer given all this. That's just what it seems like to me. Otherwise I feel Hare or Mcintosh would have been named by now. Especially since they put Matt in first in mop up time last year each time.

Yeah, again, I think this is the most logical explanation of what's going on.

Then why haven't they named him starter? Teams already know the Huskies are going to run with the QB, so it's not like they are tricking anyone.

If you guys don't think Carey can evaluate talent you're morons. They have a plan. It's not their fault nobody is outplaying each other especially since they don't have almost any live game to go off.

Teams in high school, college, and the NFL take time to announce their starter. I can think of at least 5 schools offhand that haven't named a starter yet or literally just named one Saturday.

(08-18-2014 03:54 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  If you guys don't think Carey can evaluate talent you're morons. They have a plan. It's not their fault nobody is outplaying each other especially since they don't have almost any live game to go off.

Teams in high school, college, and the NFL take time to announce their starter. I can think of at least 5 schools offhand that haven't named a starter yet or literally just named one Saturday.

It comes off as a coach who cant make a decision, it really does. But the bigger drawback to me is that essentially the things that should have been done in the summer are going to work themselves out in week 1 and 2 and it just puts everyone behind the power curve.

(08-18-2014 03:54 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  If you guys don't think Carey can evaluate talent you're morons. They have a plan. It's not their fault nobody is outplaying each other especially since they don't have almost any live game to go off.

Teams in high school, college, and the NFL take time to announce their starter. I can think of at least 5 schools offhand that haven't named a starter yet or literally just named one Saturday.

And how did the season work out for those teams?

(08-18-2014 03:53 PM)timxlydon Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 03:49 PM)7 Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 03:46 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  This has been an interesting camp for sure. With all the practice notes where nobody has said Maddie has the lead, they must think this kid is just gonna be lights out when the real game is here. Which is possible, guys with running ability aren't always the easiest to gauge in practice. Not saying he's Manziel but they didn't name Manziel until late at A&M and then look what he did in games.

It seems as if they want lightning in a bottle and not necessarily the safe passer given all this. That's just what it seems like to me. Otherwise I feel Hare or Mcintosh would have been named by now. Especially since they put Matt in first in mop up time last year each time.

Yeah, again, I think this is the most logical explanation of what's going on.

Then why haven't they named him starter? Teams already know the Huskies are going to run with the QB, so it's not like they are tricking anyone.

I truly believe it has a lot to do with the unknown of the QB running game. Now, the counter arguement to that would be to make the QBs live at some point in practice, which while very unorthodox would seem to be a valid point to me.

I just think they all to different things well. They're very different QBs. Hare the thrower, Maddie the runner, McIntosh the mix of the two. So they want to get them out there with live bullets running the full offense and see what happens.

(08-18-2014 03:57 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 03:54 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  If you guys don't think Carey can evaluate talent you're morons. They have a plan. It's not their fault nobody is outplaying each other especially since they don't have almost any live game to go off.

Teams in high school, college, and the NFL take time to announce their starter. I can think of at least 5 schools offhand that haven't named a starter yet or literally just named one Saturday.

It comes off as a coach who cant make a decision, it really does. But the bigger drawback to me is that essentially the things that should have been done in the summer are going to work themselves out in week 1 and 2 and it just puts everyone behind the power curve.

Oh so coaches can't make a decision? You know how half the coaches don't name starters within 10 days of the first game? It doesn't happen perfectly like you guys think.

****, coaches make QB changes in the middle of the season all the time. The dude can make decisions. You're basically saying Bob Cole and Carey have no clue at making a choice and running with it.

(08-18-2014 03:57 PM)klake87 Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 03:54 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  If you guys don't think Carey can evaluate talent you're morons. They have a plan. It's not their fault nobody is outplaying each other especially since they don't have almost any live game to go off.

Teams in high school, college, and the NFL take time to announce their starter. I can think of at least 5 schools offhand that haven't named a starter yet or literally just named one Saturday.

And how did the season work out for those teams?

NIU started the wrong QB against Iowa State and that season turned out okay. Teams in college football have QB battles all the time. It's the nature of having to turn over your roster every year. Auburn didn't name Nick Marshall their starter until like a week before the season last year and they went on to have a pretty decent season.

(08-18-2014 03:58 PM)7 Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 03:53 PM)timxlydon Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 03:49 PM)7 Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 03:46 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  This has been an interesting camp for sure. With all the practice notes where nobody has said Maddie has the lead, they must think this kid is just gonna be lights out when the real game is here. Which is possible, guys with running ability aren't always the easiest to gauge in practice. Not saying he's Manziel but they didn't name Manziel until late at A&M and then look what he did in games.

It seems as if they want lightning in a bottle and not necessarily the safe passer given all this. That's just what it seems like to me. Otherwise I feel Hare or Mcintosh would have been named by now. Especially since they put Matt in first in mop up time last year each time.

Yeah, again, I think this is the most logical explanation of what's going on.

Then why haven't they named him starter? Teams already know the Huskies are going to run with the QB, so it's not like they are tricking anyone.

I truly believe it has a lot to do with the unknown of the QB running game. Now, the counter arguement to that would be to make the QBs live at some point in practice, which while very unorthodox would seem to be a valid point to me.

I just think they all to different things well. They're very different QBs. Hare the thrower, Maddie the runner, McIntosh the mix of the two. So they want to get them out there with live bullets running the full offense and see what happens.

This is giving me a headache. I'm going binge drinking, wake me up on the 28th.

(08-18-2014 03:57 PM)klake87 Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 03:54 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  If you guys don't think Carey can evaluate talent you're morons. They have a plan. It's not their fault nobody is outplaying each other especially since they don't have almost any live game to go off.

Teams in high school, college, and the NFL take time to announce their starter. I can think of at least 5 schools offhand that haven't named a starter yet or literally just named one Saturday.

And how did the season work out for those teams?

Let's see the past two Heisman trophy winners were named late starters and one of those teams won a national title.

It's not as easy as what people think it is. Nothing shows what a player has until the real lights turn on.

(08-18-2014 04:01 PM)timxlydon Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 03:58 PM)7 Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 03:53 PM)timxlydon Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 03:49 PM)7 Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 03:46 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  This has been an interesting camp for sure. With all the practice notes where nobody has said Maddie has the lead, they must think this kid is just gonna be lights out when the real game is here. Which is possible, guys with running ability aren't always the easiest to gauge in practice. Not saying he's Manziel but they didn't name Manziel until late at A&M and then look what he did in games.

It seems as if they want lightning in a bottle and not necessarily the safe passer given all this. That's just what it seems like to me. Otherwise I feel Hare or Mcintosh would have been named by now. Especially since they put Matt in first in mop up time last year each time.

Yeah, again, I think this is the most logical explanation of what's going on.

Then why haven't they named him starter? Teams already know the Huskies are going to run with the QB, so it's not like they are tricking anyone.

I truly believe it has a lot to do with the unknown of the QB running game. Now, the counter arguement to that would be to make the QBs live at some point in practice, which while very unorthodox would seem to be a valid point to me.

I just think they all to different things well. They're very different QBs. Hare the thrower, Maddie the runner, McIntosh the mix of the two. So they want to get them out there with live bullets running the full offense and see what happens.

This is giving me a headache. I'm going binge drinking, wake me up on the 28th.

The thing I hate is you are conceding the NU game with this decision, there is no question about that. It may not ultimately hurt the MAC picture overall, but you are giving up on the NU game.

(08-18-2014 04:04 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 04:01 PM)timxlydon Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 03:58 PM)7 Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 03:53 PM)timxlydon Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 03:49 PM)7 Wrote:  Yeah, again, I think this is the most logical explanation of what's going on.

Then why haven't they named him starter? Teams already know the Huskies are going to run with the QB, so it's not like they are tricking anyone.

I truly believe it has a lot to do with the unknown of the QB running game. Now, the counter arguement to that would be to make the QBs live at some point in practice, which while very unorthodox would seem to be a valid point to me.

I just think they all to different things well. They're very different QBs. Hare the thrower, Maddie the runner, McIntosh the mix of the two. So they want to get them out there with live bullets running the full offense and see what happens.

This is giving me a headache. I'm going binge drinking, wake me up on the 28th.

The thing I hate is you are conceding the NU game with this decision, there is no question about that. It may not ultimately hurt the MAC picture overall, but you are giving up on the NU game.

First off, do you enjoy life at all? What is your apocalypse shelter like? You're the gloomiest dude around.

He didn't say they weren't going to name a starter by then, they still could. They also could only play one QB that game. You take everything to the biggest extreme.


Have a beer and take a shot of whiskey dude, you need it.

(08-18-2014 04:07 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 04:04 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 04:01 PM)timxlydon Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 03:58 PM)7 Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 03:53 PM)timxlydon Wrote:  Then why haven't they named him starter? Teams already know the Huskies are going to run with the QB, so it's not like they are tricking anyone.

I truly believe it has a lot to do with the unknown of the QB running game. Now, the counter arguement to that would be to make the QBs live at some point in practice, which while very unorthodox would seem to be a valid point to me.

I just think they all to different things well. They're very different QBs. Hare the thrower, Maddie the runner, McIntosh the mix of the two. So they want to get them out there with live bullets running the full offense and see what happens.

This is giving me a headache. I'm going binge drinking, wake me up on the 28th.

The thing I hate is you are conceding the NU game with this decision, there is no question about that. It may not ultimately hurt the MAC picture overall, but you are giving up on the NU game.

First off, do you enjoy life at all? What is your apocalypse shelter like? You're the gloomiest dude around.

He didn't say they weren't going to name a starter by then, they still could. They also could only play one QB that game. You take everything to the biggest extreme.


Have a beer and take a shot of whiskey dude, you need it.

Think of all the lost reps for whoever starts at Northwestern between now and then by doing this. Whoever starts @ NU is not going to be nearly as prepared for that game compared to if a decision was made. If the QBs really are all at the same level, then just pick the QB that best fits into your vision of what this team should/is going to be given what surrounds him.

I think the coaches think they can compete for ship with Mc...good runner, decent passer...will be good, just not great.

The fact that they haven't named Hare the starter by now tells you that the qb power run game is still a vital cog. If they were switching the focus to spreading the ball around and absorbing Lynch touches for the RB's he'd be the guy.

So here's my theory. They see explosion in Maddie. Dynamic runner and throws a decent deep ball. It's very possible that they are taking this thing to the wire hoping he comes along. Remeber, he's only a year in to a unique scheme. Just hoping he improves in the short passing game, decision making category...and yes a week of add'l reps could make that happen.

Here's what I don't understand. Why not the 2 headed monster. Let Hare be the guy and bring in Maddie for certain situations. Lynch took a ton of snaps in 10 and 11 and that didn't mess things up at all.

Mc becomes the solid safe choice if one of Those guys doesn't get it done.

My response to this is he really must be a terrible passer if they haven't named him start yet.
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The strength of last years offense was the Oline and JL's incredible leadership, durability and running ability. This year the strength is again an outstanding Oline, strength/depth at RB, and a talented Receiving corps. For this reason, I think Carey's decision is going come down to 1) which QB can best capitalize on the teams offensive strengths; 2) which QB takes care of the football best; 3) which QB has the respect and confidence of his teammates. It has been Mac's job to lose; unless their is an issue with point #3, I think Mac gets the starting nod.