Ok before all you ECU, UConn, Houston, Cincinnati et. al. pull an SNL Jim Belushi....



Hear me out.

I was thinking about this possible scenario today. Let's say that inclusion into the P5 comes to a legal battle. Naturally, we'd have to defend ourselves from criticism as to why we don't belong with the tOSU's, Florida's, Stanfords of the world. So we begin to match criteria.

On The Field Performance? - WVU annihilated Clemson in the Orange Bowl under the banner of this (for all intents and purposes) conference. Louisville won their Sugar Bowl, UCF beat the defending Sugar Bowl champs, beat the Big 12 champs and won the Fiesta Bowl against all odds. UConn AGAIN won the Mens AND Women's NCAA tournament, and they weren't even the favorites to win the conference. This is a no brainer. We can play the best we can be the best.

Academia? - UConn, SMU, Tulane, Navy, Tulsa are literally some of the best universities in the nation. A degree from there will open up doors no other university could. Easily equals of the Purdue's, the Duke's, the Vanderbilt's of the world.

Money? - Not that this should be a point of contention but really, it is. Again Tulane, SMU, Tulsa, Navy bring the dollar bills in more than one way, and all have shown the ability to invest in their on the field product.

Attendance? - Ok. No one in this conference is pushing 80-100k in the stands. But then again, who outside of the typical candidates do? If that is a requirement of P5 then Duke, Wake Forest, Stanford, Oregon, Washington, Purdue, and all the usual candidates are out. That's more an argument for an inclusion rather than exclusion.

My Point - Why are Tulane and SMU the most important members?

Pedigree - Some will point to our conference and say, "Oh who among you have the qualities of the Blue Bloods, where can you point and be proud of your history that can stand on the toes of THE [insert overly arrogant university here]"

Tulane has the same number of SEC championships as Kentucky, Arkansas, Mississippi State, Missouri, South Carolina, aTm, and Vanderbilt COMBINED

SMU has won 11 Southwest Conference Championships in a conference that contained 7 other current P5 teams.

While we can all pound our chest and state that we deserve, I think, legally, with SMU and Tulane in our ranks, we can point to them as our "Ace in the Hole". With these universities amongst us, there is no argument the P5 can make that we can't match.

Someone tell me why i'm wrong.

I just can not stop laughing at the SNL clip.

I have always said that Tulane, SMU and Navy are extremely valuable members and you did a pretty good job of explaining why. All AAC members are valuable in their own important ways. We certainly have the most diverse FBS conference. With vision and a positive spirit of togetherness, that can be a strength.

In pertaining to SMU, former DB Acker is really impressing in the 49ers pre-season game against Denver. SMU seems to have been producing some good NFL talent as of late.

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(08-17-2014 05:22 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  In pertaining to SMU, former DB Acker is really impressing in the 49ers pre-season game against Denver. SMU seems to have been producing some good NFL talent as of late.

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Sad that we put so many in the nfl but have mediocre teams

(08-17-2014 05:15 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  I have always said that Tulane, SMU and Navy are extremely valuable members and you did a pretty good job of explaining why. All AAC members are valuable in their own important ways. We certainly have the most diverse FBS conference. With vision and a positive spirit of togetherness, that can be a strength.

Thanks. I'd like to point out that I really don't see the all of the same talking points from the other conferences. At least not all of them together.

I can assure you, that if any legal procedings happen, UCONN will be in the back. Keeping their mouths shut and providing silent support. We (UCONN) have been down this road before, and it never ends well.

SEC did not expand with SMU and Tulane, nor did the Big 12. So how do you figure that they are valuable?

(08-17-2014 04:28 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Ok before all you ECU, UConn, Houston, Cincinnati et. al. pull an SNL Jim Belushi....



Hear me out.

I was thinking about this possible scenario today. Let's say that inclusion into the P5 comes to a legal battle. Naturally, we'd have to defend ourselves from criticism as to why we don't belong with the tOSU's, Florida's, Stanfords of the world. So we begin to match criteria.

On The Field Performance? - WVU annihilated Clemson in the Orange Bowl under the banner of this (for all intents and purposes) conference. Louisville won their Sugar Bowl, UCF beat the defending Sugar Bowl champs, beat the Big 12 champs and won the Fiesta Bowl against all odds. UConn AGAIN won the Mens AND Women's NCAA tournament, and they weren't even the favorites to win the conference. This is a no brainer. We can play the best we can be the best.

Academia? - UConn, SMU, Tulane, Navy, Tulsa are literally some of the best universities in the nation. A degree from there will open up doors no other university could. Easily equals of the Purdue's, the Duke's, the Vanderbilt's of the world.

Money? - Not that this should be a point of contention but really, it is. Again Tulane, SMU, Tulsa, Navy bring the dollar bills in more than one way, and all have shown the ability to invest in their on the field product.

Attendance? - Ok. No one in this conference is pushing 80-100k in the stands. But then again, who outside of the typical candidates do? If that is a requirement of P5 then Duke, Wake Forest, Stanford, Oregon, Washington, Purdue, and all the usual candidates are out. That's more an argument for an inclusion rather than exclusion.

My Point - Why are Tulane and SMU the most important members?

Pedigree - Some will point to our conference and say, "Oh who among you have the qualities of the Blue Bloods, where can you point and be proud of your history that can stand on the toes of THE [insert overly arrogant university here]"

Tulane has the same number of SEC championships as Kentucky, Arkansas, Mississippi State, Missouri, South Carolina, aTm, and Vanderbilt COMBINED

SMU has won 11 Southwest Conference Championships in a conference that contained 7 other current P5 teams.

While we can all pound our chest and state that we deserve, I think, legally, with SMU and Tulane in our ranks, we can point to them as our "Ace in the Hole". With these universities amongst us, there is no argument the P5 can make that we can't match.

Someone tell me why i'm wrong.

I would argue that all conference members are of equal value, for different reasons. Some are situated in great markets (though do not possess market share just yet), some are academic pillars, and some are successes on the field and court. Fan interest (except ECU in FB) is what is holding back this group of schools. The potential here is high.


And I don't think anything is going to court regarding P5 and AAC, especially if AAC members vote for autonomy.



Fire June



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(08-17-2014 06:28 PM)fishpro1098 Wrote:  

(08-17-2014 04:28 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Ok before all you ECU, UConn, Houston, Cincinnati et. al. pull an SNL Jim Belushi....



Hear me out.

I was thinking about this possible scenario today. Let's say that inclusion into the P5 comes to a legal battle. Naturally, we'd have to defend ourselves from criticism as to why we don't belong with the tOSU's, Florida's, Stanfords of the world. So we begin to match criteria.

On The Field Performance? - WVU annihilated Clemson in the Orange Bowl under the banner of this (for all intents and purposes) conference. Louisville won their Sugar Bowl, UCF beat the defending Sugar Bowl champs, beat the Big 12 champs and won the Fiesta Bowl against all odds. UConn AGAIN won the Mens AND Women's NCAA tournament, and they weren't even the favorites to win the conference. This is a no brainer. We can play the best we can be the best.

Academia? - UConn, SMU, Tulane, Navy, Tulsa are literally some of the best universities in the nation. A degree from there will open up doors no other university could. Easily equals of the Purdue's, the Duke's, the Vanderbilt's of the world.

Money? - Not that this should be a point of contention but really, it is. Again Tulane, SMU, Tulsa, Navy bring the dollar bills in more than one way, and all have shown the ability to invest in their on the field product.

Attendance? - Ok. No one in this conference is pushing 80-100k in the stands. But then again, who outside of the typical candidates do? If that is a requirement of P5 then Duke, Wake Forest, Stanford, Oregon, Washington, Purdue, and all the usual candidates are out. That's more an argument for an inclusion rather than exclusion.

My Point - Why are Tulane and SMU the most important members?

Pedigree - Some will point to our conference and say, "Oh who among you have the qualities of the Blue Bloods, where can you point and be proud of your history that can stand on the toes of THE [insert overly arrogant university here]"

Tulane has the same number of SEC championships as Kentucky, Arkansas, Mississippi State, Missouri, South Carolina, aTm, and Vanderbilt COMBINED

SMU has won 11 Southwest Conference Championships in a conference that contained 7 other current P5 teams.

While we can all pound our chest and state that we deserve, I think, legally, with SMU and Tulane in our ranks, we can point to them as our "Ace in the Hole". With these universities amongst us, there is no argument the P5 can make that we can't match.

Someone tell me why i'm wrong.

I would argues that all conference members are of equal value, for different reasons. Some are situated in great markets (though do not possess market share just yet), some are academic pillars, and some are successes on the field and court. Fan interest (except ECU in FB) is what is holding back this group of schools. The potential here is high.


And I don't think anything is going to court regarding P5 and AAC, especially if AAC members vote for autonomy.



Fire June



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Sooooo unmmmm how does 7k make that much difference?


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yah disagree every conference needs bottom feeder cupcakes and if they are ours it doesn't matter. All that really matters is the top 3-4 teams in the conference are really good for multiple years--doesn't really matter who those are, but if we can get 3-4 teams in the top 25 a few years in a row that'll give AAC a lot more credibility than us being good top to bottom.

(08-17-2014 04:28 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Ok before all you ECU, UConn, Houston, Cincinnati et. al. pull an SNL Jim Belushi....



Hear me out.

I was thinking about this possible scenario today. Let's say that inclusion into the P5 comes to a legal battle. Naturally, we'd have to defend ourselves from criticism as to why we don't belong with the tOSU's, Florida's, Stanfords of the world. So we begin to match criteria.

On The Field Performance? - WVU annihilated Clemson in the Orange Bowl under the banner of this (for all intents and purposes) conference. Louisville won their Sugar Bowl, UCF beat the defending Sugar Bowl champs, beat the Big 12 champs and won the Fiesta Bowl against all odds. UConn AGAIN won the Mens AND Women's NCAA tournament, and they weren't even the favorites to win the conference. This is a no brainer. We can play the best we can be the best.

Academia? - UConn, SMU, Tulane, Navy, Tulsa are literally some of the best universities in the nation. A degree from there will open up doors no other university could. Easily equals of the Purdue's, the Duke's, the Vanderbilt's of the world.

Money? - Not that this should be a point of contention but really, it is. Again Tulane, SMU, Tulsa, Navy bring the dollar bills in more than one way, and all have shown the ability to invest in their on the field product.

Attendance? - Ok. No one in this conference is pushing 80-100k in the stands. But then again, who outside of the typical candidates do? If that is a requirement of P5 then Duke, Wake Forest, Stanford, Oregon, Washington, Purdue, and all the usual candidates are out. That's more an argument for an inclusion rather than exclusion.

My Point - Why are Tulane and SMU the most important members?

Pedigree - Some will point to our conference and say, "Oh who among you have the qualities of the Blue Bloods, where can you point and be proud of your history that can stand on the toes of THE [insert overly arrogant university here]"

Tulane has the same number of SEC championships as Kentucky, Arkansas, Mississippi State, Missouri, South Carolina, aTm, and Vanderbilt COMBINED

SMU has won 11 Southwest Conference Championships in a conference that contained 7 other current P5 teams.

While we can all pound our chest and state that we deserve, I think, legally, with SMU and Tulane in our ranks, we can point to them as our "Ace in the Hole". With these universities amongst us, there is no argument the P5 can make that we can't match.

Someone tell me why i'm wrong.

This guy gets it...

(08-17-2014 07:08 PM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  yah disagree every conference needs bottom feeder cupcakes and if they are ours it doesn't matter. All that really matters is the top 3-4 teams in the conference are really good for multiple years--doesn't really matter who those are, but if we can get 3-4 teams in the top 25 a few years in a row that'll give AAC a lot more credibility than us being good top to bottom.

... did you not even read what I wrote? This has absolutely nothing to do with athletic performance.

They are valuable as the academic weights, every major conference has them; Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Duke, Stanford.

How many other G5 conferences can claim that? These academic schools usually produce many wealthy alumni and those alumni give back, travel to games, etc.

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(08-17-2014 04:28 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Ok before all you ECU, UConn, Houston, Cincinnati et. al. pull an SNL Jim Belushi....



Hear me out.

I was thinking about this possible scenario today. Let's say that inclusion into the P5 comes to a legal battle. Naturally, we'd have to defend ourselves from criticism as to why we don't belong with the tOSU's, Florida's, Stanfords of the world. So we begin to match criteria.

On The Field Performance? - WVU annihilated Clemson in the Orange Bowl under the banner of this (for all intents and purposes) conference. Louisville won their Sugar Bowl, UCF beat the defending Sugar Bowl champs, beat the Big 12 champs and won the Fiesta Bowl against all odds. UConn AGAIN won the Mens AND Women's NCAA tournament, and they weren't even the favorites to win the conference. This is a no brainer. We can play the best we can be the best.

Academia? - UConn, SMU, Tulane, Navy, Tulsa are literally some of the best universities in the nation. A degree from there will open up doors no other university could. Easily equals of the Purdue's, the Duke's, the Vanderbilt's of the world.

Money? - Not that this should be a point of contention but really, it is. Again Tulane, SMU, Tulsa, Navy bring the dollar bills in more than one way, and all have shown the ability to invest in their on the field product.

Attendance? - Ok. No one in this conference is pushing 80-100k in the stands. But then again, who outside of the typical candidates do? If that is a requirement of P5 then Duke, Wake Forest, Stanford, Oregon, Washington, Purdue, and all the usual candidates are out. That's more an argument for an inclusion rather than exclusion.

My Point - Why are Tulane and SMU the most important members?

Pedigree - Some will point to our conference and say, "Oh who among you have the qualities of the Blue Bloods, where can you point and be proud of your history that can stand on the toes of THE [insert overly arrogant university here]"

Tulane has the same number of SEC championships as Kentucky, Arkansas, Mississippi State, Missouri, South Carolina, aTm, and Vanderbilt COMBINED

SMU has won 11 Southwest Conference Championships in a conference that contained 7 other current P5 teams.

While we can all pound our chest and state that we deserve, I think, legally, with SMU and Tulane in our ranks, we can point to them as our "Ace in the Hole". With these universities amongst us, there is no argument the P5 can make that we can't match.

Someone tell me why i'm wrong.

Navy would become "the most valuable" program to have and the reason for inclusion, which is why I think we need to convince Army to join….

We're just happy to be here!

Uconn has two players on Jacksonville roster. dwayne gratz jordan todman and they both played in the game.

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(08-17-2014 05:22 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  In pertaining to SMU, former DB Acker is really impressing in the 49ers pre-season game against Denver. SMU seems to have been producing some good NFL talent as of late.

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Agreed. Case in point....Kelvin Beachum was a 6th round draft pick by the Steelers a few years ago. Now he is the starting LT who is also talented enough to fill in at G or C.
Thank you SMU!

(08-17-2014 08:39 PM)jam2112 Wrote:  

(08-17-2014 05:22 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  In pertaining to SMU, former DB Acker is really impressing in the 49ers pre-season game against Denver. SMU seems to have been producing some good NFL talent as of late.

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Agreed. Case in point....Kelvin Beachum was a 6th round draft pick by the Steelers a few years ago. Now he is the starting LT who is also talented enough to fill in at G or C.
Thank you SMU!

I like Kelvin as a person. As much grief as I give June, he does graduate good men.