Excellent example of why we need guns for defense.

Quote:Stalking victims often despair because they can’t control their own lives. They are forced to move, stay indoors, keep drapes closed, avoid posting on social media sites, and even change their cars. It’s almost like being held hostage.

Shall we tell women that they just have to put up with this? The answer is “no.” Women must be able to defend themselves. The most effective way of doing this is by using a gun. By the time the police arrive to enforce a restraining order, it is often too late.

One of us, Taylor Woolrich, has been living such a nightmare for over four years. It started when she was 16. Taylor was working at a café in San Diego when a 67-year-old man, Richard Bennett, came into the store for coffee. He kept coming back, staring at her for long periods of time and trying to flirt. He then would sit outside the store for the entire day.

It soon got much worse. He followed her around outside of work, demanding to talk and saying that he was “trying to protect [her].”

Right now, Richard Bennett is in jail a third time for violating his restraining order and will soon go to trial again. In June of this year, Taylor was shocked to discover how closely she was still being followed. It was late at night when she returned home to California from Dartmouth College on the East Coast. Early the very next morning, Bennett was at her door, wanting to talk.

Bennett was arrested and police searched his car. They discovered a “rape kit” including rope tied as slip noose, a knife, gloves, and other items. When police got a warrant, they found Taylor’s pictures all over Bennett’s house. They also found illegally obtained guns.

Restraining orders only go so far when the stalker has six inches and 70 pounds on the victim. Nor did California’s universal background check law stop him from illegally obtaining guns. The proposed federal law on expanded background checks that President Obama continually pushes is similar to California’s and would not have stopped Bennett either.

Bennett’s bond originally required him to put up $10,000 for a bondsman. This was later raised to $30,000. So far, Bennett hasn’t posted bond and is still in jail. However, he has hired one of the top defense attorneys in the area.

Taylor has been attending Dartmouth College for the last two years. Over the last fourteen months, Bennett sent Taylor multiple messages in which he promised to come all the way to Dartmouth. Taylor finally contacted Dartmouth College’s Department of Safety and Security in June and asked if she could keep a permitted handgun on campus. But no luck. The advice was that she call campus security and arrange for an escort if she ever felt unsafe after dark. Taylor was told that there was no way to appeal this decision.

But the escorts proved impractical and humiliating. Campus security would say, “you can’t keep calling us all the time.” When requesting transportation, Taylor would be grilled over whether she had a justifiable reason. Once campus security were dispatched, it would take anywhere from 10 to 45 minutes for them to arrive.

Taylor did not even feel safe in her own dorm. While an ID card is necessary for opening dormitory doors, it is always possible to wait for someone with an ID to come along. In addition, there are no security cameras in the dorms.

What are women in these circumstances supposed to do? Keep themselves locked in their dorm rooms, as Taylor has done?

Dartmouth thinks that banning weapons will keep students safe, but a gun ban isn’t going to stop the Bennetts of this world from attacking. A restraining order didn’t stop him from approaching Taylor countless times in the three years since it was issued. Neither will ID cards or a gun ban.


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“There's no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons.”- Ronald Reagan

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(08-13-2014 11:03 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  “There's no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons.”- Ronald Reagan

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I'd be curious to know the context in which he spoke those words, but I'm guessing he's saying that law enforcement would be or should be removing all public threats so there wouldn't be a need or concern for armed self defense. Unfortunately, that hasn't happened and our over flowing jails are proof of that.

In the 1960's, the black panthers were using their second amendment right to purchase weapons. It was in this context that Reagan made those comments.

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"Illegally purchased guns".

Illegally purchased is the issue right there. Black market gun trade is disgusting and I'm glad the feds are at least trying to screw them (the illegal traders) up.

What difference does it make if v they are legal or not. Carry concealed either make life safer or it doesn't.

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(08-13-2014 11:27 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  What difference does it make if v they are legal or not. Carry concealed either make life safer or it doesn't.

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Fit's got a point there. But there is that 8 hour class....

War on women.

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Read John Locke's book, More Guns Less Crime. You will learn a lot.




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Don't think Locke anticipated the kinds of guns we have today.

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(08-13-2014 11:03 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  “There's no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons.”- Ronald Reagan

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Well...Even Ron talked out of his ass once in a while.

I feel for the girl and hope she is able to requisition the tools to feel safe. Because everyone has the inherent right of self-defense. But in this instance, I would contend that an absent mental health system is the real failure hear since its clear this guy has some issues that prevent the state from locking him up permanently.

(08-13-2014 11:27 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  What difference does it make if v they are legal or not. Carry concealed either make life safer or it doesn't.

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It's made my life much safer on at least two occasions.

(08-14-2014 09:42 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  I feel for the girl and hope she is able to requisition the tools to feel safe. Because everyone has the inherent right of self-defense. But in this instance, I would contend that an absent mental health system is the real failure hear since its clear this guy has some issues that prevent the state from locking him up permanently.

A very valid point. Mental illness is our very own dirty little secret apparently. And our intrusive state chooses it as one of the few areas it has no authority or ability to affect a change.

(08-13-2014 11:08 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(08-13-2014 11:03 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  “There's no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons.”- Ronald Reagan

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I'd be curious to know the context in which he spoke those words, but I'm guessing he's saying that law enforcement would be or should be removing all public threats so there wouldn't be a need or concern for armed self defense. Unfortunately, that hasn't happened and our over flowing jails are proof of that.

Smn wrote what I agree with. That's the first thought that came to mind.

(08-14-2014 08:25 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Read John Locke's book, More Guns Less Crime. You will learn a lot.

John Lott (not Locke).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More_Guns,_Less_Crime

(08-13-2014 11:03 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  “There's no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons.”- Ronald Reagan

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He's dead.

(08-14-2014 12:21 PM)bevotex Wrote:  

(08-13-2014 11:03 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  “There's no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons.”- Ronald Reagan

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He's dead.

He also got shot. Weird isn't it?

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(08-14-2014 12:15 PM)jh Wrote:  

(08-14-2014 08:25 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Read John Locke's book, More Guns Less Crime. You will learn a lot.

John Lott (not Locke).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More_Guns,_Less_Crime

Correct. Brain to keyboard issue.


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(08-14-2014 12:10 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(08-14-2014 09:42 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  I feel for the girl and hope she is able to requisition the tools to feel safe. Because everyone has the inherent right of self-defense. But in this instance, I would contend that an absent mental health system is the real failure hear since its clear this guy has some issues that prevent the state from locking him up permanently.

A very valid point. Mental illness is our very own dirty little secret apparently. And our intrusive state chooses it as one of the few areas it has no authority or ability to affect a change.

Its no secret. The problem is that people would have to admit that closing the sanitariums in the 50's and 60's and turning all of the patients out onto the street over letting prisons house them was a mistake. Much like the author of Silent Spring, you have to believe the lie, even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.