(08-11-2014 12:12 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  

(08-11-2014 08:41 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  Someone should ask him how feels about Baylor being the best team in Texas. And how he feels about a school from a "non P5" conference running them over last year. And how that sits, knowing that his super awesome Longhorns were run off the field by Baylor.

And please tell us more about how people are dying to watch Kansas vs Iowa State. Or Kansas State vs TCU. Or WVU vs TTU.

Yea, those programs are really "pulling their weight".

You are aware that Texas recently played in a national title game a few years after winning one and routinely plays in front of 100,000 fans right? Just because there are some anomaly years (like the year Northwestern played in the Rose Bowl and the other years they tied for the conference title) doesn't mean there aren't some major breadwinners in college football and basketball, if not both. He has a point, the only program that has close to the pull that a P5 team does outside the group, on and off the field, is BYU and UConn. Everyone else is lucky the P5 hasn't pulled out sooner, particularly the few programs that are the big names (OU, Texas, Michigan, Ohio State, USC, UCLA, Notre Dame, etc...)

That said, I agree with the notion that all that anyone is asking for is fair access to the national championship and I think that is in the process of growing, as it has gone from exclusive bowls, to a true national title game with access to the bowls to a full-fledged small playoff. As pressure increases, it will grow imo.

I believe this is exactly why they want a bigger divide. The last thing they want is a G5 team in the national championship game.

I guess this idiot Texas AD didn't get the 60 day Autonomy window memo... I'm thinking this is direct reminder, but mainly towards those much lower conferences and not the AAC.

The University of Texas athletic director is not exactly the best spokesman to argue for autonomy and separation from the other 27 D1 conferences, especially in the name of student athlete welfare.

As we know, Texas is the highest-grossing athletic department in America, and it's not even close. You'd think that someone who's all about student athlete welfare would want his school to support the maximum number of student athletes possible. Well, Texas sponsors 20 sports. That's it. My far less resourceful alma mater, App State, sponsors the same number. Why can Texas not afford to sponsor more sports to fund more students' educations? At least schools like Ohio State, Stanford, and UNC, who do have their own issues (another topic), sponsor a lot more sports with less money that Texas.

Bottom line is that many of these schools, as Dr. Lopiano said at the Big 12 sports forum in New York (I highly recommend viewing that on the Big 12 website), are being selfish. They want as much money as possible for themselves to support the minimum number of athletes they can get away with at the lowest price possible (for the athletes) to keep themselves competitive in football and basketball. And Texas is one of the worst schools to complain. Throw in Alabama, too, which just pours more money into football instead of spreading it to benefit a greater number of student athletes. They say they're interested in student athlete welfare in a reactionary response to O'Bannon & Kessler lawsuits, and they still benefit the fewest number possible.

What disgusts me is there are alot of people like this guy who think there are no teams outside of the Entitlement 5 that could play with or beat his program which is load of garbage.

Despite the $ differences between the Entitlement 5 and the AAC, MWC, Sunbelt, CUSA & The MAC; per the USA Today Preseason Poll (which is only 1 measuring stick but one of the few we have now that is measuring all 128 teams) has 18 teams from outside the Entitlement 5 in their top half (64) of Division 1A football. That's nearly 30%.

There are 20 Entitlement 5 teams in the bottom half which is nearly 2 entire conferences.

UCF, Boise State, BYU, Bowling Green, Houston, Northern Illinois U, Lousiana Lafayette and Cincinnati are ranked ahead of Texas. Texas's football budget is likely equal to if not greater than all 8 of those programs combined!

UT St is ranked right behind Texas at #46. All that $ and they are legends in their own mind.

(08-11-2014 08:37 AM)invisiblehand Wrote:  Did the reporter tell him that no one has 'wanted' to watch his awful Texas squad either? Also, what kind of liability is he even talking about? The O'Bannon trial wasn't O'Bannon v. P5. It was O'Bannon v. NCAA.

The only thing I hate more than OU is Texas.

Don't you know they have to work really hard to make all that money? Shame on you

(08-11-2014 08:41 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  Someone should ask him how feels about Baylor being the best team in Texas. And how he feels about a school from a "non P5" conference running them over last year. And how that sits, knowing that his super awesome Longhorns were run off the field by Baylor.

And please tell us more about how people are dying to watch Kansas vs Iowa State. Or Kansas State vs TCU. Or WVU vs TTU.

Yea, those programs are really "pulling their weight".

TX & their AD make it pretty clear, not just in this statement, but also in how they rule their own B12 conference. Certainly no "socialism" in the B12 where TX has their own network (even though it under-performs). And I think there are certain other programs that lead their conferences that have the same attitude toward lower level schools in their conferences but don't express it in public.

I believe you will eventually see a performance scoring program in some of these P5 conferences that allows the top performers to get a bigger share of the conference revenues leaving the low performers behind. It won't be done by reducing the current take each school gets but they will find a way to apportion revenue increases by some sort of performance scale. All of this is a sign of the motivation among the P5 conferences to maximize their revenues by eliminating non-P5 conferences from the market & then marginalizing schools within their conferences who don't keep up. It's the logical path now being set.

(08-11-2014 02:46 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  There is a bit of chicken and egg also. If you are promoted you get better ratings and attendance which gets you more promotion....G5, being ignored, has no opportunity to get onto that train.

The GoDaddy Bowl broadcasters spent more time talking about Auburn/FSU than the game they were broadcasting.

Something that you are missing is that the bigger opponents also bring more fans to the equation with respect to casual viewership and fans traveling. If you take those folks out of attendance figures your average a 5 is getting similar numbers.


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(08-11-2014 04:53 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  I guess this idiot Texas AD didn't get the 60 day Autonomy window memo... I'm thinking this is direct reminder, but mainly towards those much lower conferences and not the AAC.

He was most likely drunk off his a$$, courtesy of TCU. Or, was that the prez of UT? I forget.

Sit back, relax, pop some popcorn and get ready for the Circus. Congress will get involved in this. To much money and the TV ratings of the Committee hearings and general interest in the subject will be too good for a Pol to pass up. [/php]

I enjoyed watching BYU crush Texas quite a bit!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn9R7v2yGk4

(08-11-2014 04:55 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  The University of Texas athletic director is not exactly the best spokesman to argue for autonomy and separation from the other 27 D1 conferences, especially in the name of student athlete welfare.

As we know, Texas is the highest-grossing athletic department in America, and it's not even close. You'd think that someone who's all about student athlete welfare would want his school to support the maximum number of student athletes possible. Well, Texas sponsors 20 sports. That's it. My far less resourceful alma mater, App State, sponsors the same number. Why can Texas not afford to sponsor more sports to fund more students' educations? At least schools like Ohio State, Stanford, and UNC, who do have their own issues (another topic), sponsor a lot more sports with less money that Texas.

Bottom line is that many of these schools, as Dr. Lopiano said at the Big 12 sports forum in New York (I highly recommend viewing that on the Big 12 website), are being selfish. They want as much money as possible for themselves to support the minimum number of athletes they can get away with at the lowest price possible (for the athletes) to keep themselves competitive in football and basketball. And Texas is one of the worst schools to complain. Throw in Alabama, too, which just pours more money into football instead of spreading it to benefit a greater number of student athletes. They say they're interested in student athlete welfare in a reactionary response to O'Bannon & Kessler lawsuits, and they still benefit the fewest number possible.

ND, in contrast to Texas, sponsors 26 sports.

Its athletic department also sends about $20 million per year back to the academic side for scholarships.

(08-12-2014 06:56 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(08-11-2014 04:55 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  The University of Texas athletic director is not exactly the best spokesman to argue for autonomy and separation from the other 27 D1 conferences, especially in the name of student athlete welfare.

As we know, Texas is the highest-grossing athletic department in America, and it's not even close. You'd think that someone who's all about student athlete welfare would want his school to support the maximum number of student athletes possible. Well, Texas sponsors 20 sports. That's it. My far less resourceful alma mater, App State, sponsors the same number. Why can Texas not afford to sponsor more sports to fund more students' educations? At least schools like Ohio State, Stanford, and UNC, who do have their own issues (another topic), sponsor a lot more sports with less money that Texas.

Bottom line is that many of these schools, as Dr. Lopiano said at the Big 12 sports forum in New York (I highly recommend viewing that on the Big 12 website), are being selfish. They want as much money as possible for themselves to support the minimum number of athletes they can get away with at the lowest price possible (for the athletes) to keep themselves competitive in football and basketball. And Texas is one of the worst schools to complain. Throw in Alabama, too, which just pours more money into football instead of spreading it to benefit a greater number of student athletes. They say they're interested in student athlete welfare in a reactionary response to O'Bannon & Kessler lawsuits, and they still benefit the fewest number possible.

ND, in contrast to Texas, sponsors 26 sports.

Its athletic department also sends about $20 million per year back to the academic side for scholarships.

Everyone looks at this from the perspective Ohio St, Texas, and Alabama's of the world. Well what about the Kentucky's, Indiana's, and Wake Forest's?

It's funny if the P5 schools get their way in an all P5 schedule. Some of these teams are never going to have a winning record again. They are going to shoot themselves doing it. The University of Tennessee has 4 straight losing seasons! Tennessee! What happens when schools have to upgrade their schedules?

(08-12-2014 07:00 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(08-12-2014 06:56 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(08-11-2014 04:55 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  The University of Texas athletic director is not exactly the best spokesman to argue for autonomy and separation from the other 27 D1 conferences, especially in the name of student athlete welfare.

As we know, Texas is the highest-grossing athletic department in America, and it's not even close. You'd think that someone who's all about student athlete welfare would want his school to support the maximum number of student athletes possible. Well, Texas sponsors 20 sports. That's it. My far less resourceful alma mater, App State, sponsors the same number. Why can Texas not afford to sponsor more sports to fund more students' educations? At least schools like Ohio State, Stanford, and UNC, who do have their own issues (another topic), sponsor a lot more sports with less money that Texas.

Bottom line is that many of these schools, as Dr. Lopiano said at the Big 12 sports forum in New York (I highly recommend viewing that on the Big 12 website), are being selfish. They want as much money as possible for themselves to support the minimum number of athletes they can get away with at the lowest price possible (for the athletes) to keep themselves competitive in football and basketball. And Texas is one of the worst schools to complain. Throw in Alabama, too, which just pours more money into football instead of spreading it to benefit a greater number of student athletes. They say they're interested in student athlete welfare in a reactionary response to O'Bannon & Kessler lawsuits, and they still benefit the fewest number possible.

ND, in contrast to Texas, sponsors 26 sports.

Its athletic department also sends about $20 million per year back to the academic side for scholarships.

Everyone looks at this from the perspective Ohio St, Texas, and Alabama's of the world. Well what about the Kentucky's, Indiana's, and Wake Forest's?

It's funny if the P5 schools get their way in an all P5 schedule. Some of these teams are never going to have a winning record again. They are going to shoot themselves doing it. The University of Tennessee has 4 straight losing seasons! Tennessee! What happens when schools have to upgrade their schedules?

ND plays 10 P5 teams in 2014, before all of this "autonomy" stuff kicks in. ND has never once played an FCS school.

The two non-P5 teams this year? Rice (10 wins last year) and Navy (9 wins last year).

A30 RICE 3:30pm ET NBC
S06 MICHIGAN 7:30pm NBC
S13 vs. Purdue (LucasOil) 7:30pm NBC
S27 @ Syracuse (Meadowlands)
O04 STANFORD 3:30pm ET NBC
O11 NORTH CAROLINA 3:30pm ET NBC
O18 @ Florida State
N01 @ Navy (Landover, MD) 8pm ET CBS
N08 @ Arizona State
N15 NORTHWESTERN 3:30pm ET NBC
N22 LOUISVILLE 3:30pm ET NBC
N29 @ Southern Cal


Brian Kelly said that any proposed legislation that excludes the ND/Navy game is a "deal breaker" as far as ND is concerned.

(08-12-2014 07:04 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(08-12-2014 07:00 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(08-12-2014 06:56 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(08-11-2014 04:55 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  The University of Texas athletic director is not exactly the best spokesman to argue for autonomy and separation from the other 27 D1 conferences, especially in the name of student athlete welfare.

As we know, Texas is the highest-grossing athletic department in America, and it's not even close. You'd think that someone who's all about student athlete welfare would want his school to support the maximum number of student athletes possible. Well, Texas sponsors 20 sports. That's it. My far less resourceful alma mater, App State, sponsors the same number. Why can Texas not afford to sponsor more sports to fund more students' educations? At least schools like Ohio State, Stanford, and UNC, who do have their own issues (another topic), sponsor a lot more sports with less money that Texas.

Bottom line is that many of these schools, as Dr. Lopiano said at the Big 12 sports forum in New York (I highly recommend viewing that on the Big 12 website), are being selfish. They want as much money as possible for themselves to support the minimum number of athletes they can get away with at the lowest price possible (for the athletes) to keep themselves competitive in football and basketball. And Texas is one of the worst schools to complain. Throw in Alabama, too, which just pours more money into football instead of spreading it to benefit a greater number of student athletes. They say they're interested in student athlete welfare in a reactionary response to O'Bannon & Kessler lawsuits, and they still benefit the fewest number possible.

ND, in contrast to Texas, sponsors 26 sports.

Its athletic department also sends about $20 million per year back to the academic side for scholarships.

Everyone looks at this from the perspective Ohio St, Texas, and Alabama's of the world. Well what about the Kentucky's, Indiana's, and Wake Forest's?

It's funny if the P5 schools get their way in an all P5 schedule. Some of these teams are never going to have a winning record again. They are going to shoot themselves doing it. The University of Tennessee has 4 straight losing seasons! Tennessee! What happens when schools have to upgrade their schedules?

ND plays 10 P5 teams in 2014, before all of this "autonomy" stuff kicks in. ND has never once played an FCS school.

The two non-P5 teams this year? Rice (10 wins last year) and Navy (9 wins last year).

A30 RICE 3:30pm ET NBC
S06 MICHIGAN 7:30pm NBC
S13 vs. Purdue (LucasOil) 7:30pm NBC
S27 @ Syracuse (Meadowlands)
O04 STANFORD 3:30pm ET NBC
O11 NORTH CAROLINA 3:30pm ET NBC
O18 @ Florida State
N01 @ Navy (Landover, MD) 8pm ET CBS
N08 @ Arizona State
N15 NORTHWESTERN 3:30pm ET NBC
N22 LOUISVILLE 3:30pm ET NBC
N29 @ Southern Cal


Brian Kelly said that any proposed legislation that excludes the ND/Navy game is a "deal breaker" as far as ND is concerned.

Ok but Notre Dame recruits at a high level. What of the Iowa St's or even NC State's. I am telling you these schools are going to struggle to ever have a winning season again. What happens to season ticket holder when "hope" fades from your program?

(08-12-2014 07:08 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(08-12-2014 07:04 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(08-12-2014 07:00 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(08-12-2014 06:56 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(08-11-2014 04:55 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  The University of Texas athletic director is not exactly the best spokesman to argue for autonomy and separation from the other 27 D1 conferences, especially in the name of student athlete welfare.

As we know, Texas is the highest-grossing athletic department in America, and it's not even close. You'd think that someone who's all about student athlete welfare would want his school to support the maximum number of student athletes possible. Well, Texas sponsors 20 sports. That's it. My far less resourceful alma mater, App State, sponsors the same number. Why can Texas not afford to sponsor more sports to fund more students' educations? At least schools like Ohio State, Stanford, and UNC, who do have their own issues (another topic), sponsor a lot more sports with less money that Texas.

Bottom line is that many of these schools, as Dr. Lopiano said at the Big 12 sports forum in New York (I highly recommend viewing that on the Big 12 website), are being selfish. They want as much money as possible for themselves to support the minimum number of athletes they can get away with at the lowest price possible (for the athletes) to keep themselves competitive in football and basketball. And Texas is one of the worst schools to complain. Throw in Alabama, too, which just pours more money into football instead of spreading it to benefit a greater number of student athletes. They say they're interested in student athlete welfare in a reactionary response to O'Bannon & Kessler lawsuits, and they still benefit the fewest number possible.

ND, in contrast to Texas, sponsors 26 sports.

Its athletic department also sends about $20 million per year back to the academic side for scholarships.

Everyone looks at this from the perspective Ohio St, Texas, and Alabama's of the world. Well what about the Kentucky's, Indiana's, and Wake Forest's?

It's funny if the P5 schools get their way in an all P5 schedule. Some of these teams are never going to have a winning record again. They are going to shoot themselves doing it. The University of Tennessee has 4 straight losing seasons! Tennessee! What happens when schools have to upgrade their schedules?

ND plays 10 P5 teams in 2014, before all of this "autonomy" stuff kicks in. ND has never once played an FCS school.

The two non-P5 teams this year? Rice (10 wins last year) and Navy (9 wins last year).

A30 RICE 3:30pm ET NBC
S06 MICHIGAN 7:30pm NBC
S13 vs. Purdue (LucasOil) 7:30pm NBC
S27 @ Syracuse (Meadowlands)
O04 STANFORD 3:30pm ET NBC
O11 NORTH CAROLINA 3:30pm ET NBC
O18 @ Florida State
N01 @ Navy (Landover, MD) 8pm ET CBS
N08 @ Arizona State
N15 NORTHWESTERN 3:30pm ET NBC
N22 LOUISVILLE 3:30pm ET NBC
N29 @ Southern Cal


Brian Kelly said that any proposed legislation that excludes the ND/Navy game is a "deal breaker" as far as ND is concerned.

Ok but Notre Dame recruits at a high level. What of the Iowa St's or even NC State's. I am telling you these schools are going to struggle to ever have a winning season again. What happens to season ticket holder when "hope" fades from your program?

I am not in favor of the "all P5 schedule" but I do think that the idea is to try to increase every school's SOS.

I was just trying to illustrate that there is a way to increase one's SOS without cutting out G5 games entirely.

The other P5 schools could start by not scheduling FCS OOC games, for instance.

(08-12-2014 07:15 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(08-12-2014 07:08 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(08-12-2014 07:04 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(08-12-2014 07:00 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(08-12-2014 06:56 AM)TerryD Wrote:  ND, in contrast to Texas, sponsors 26 sports.

Its athletic department also sends about $20 million per year back to the academic side for scholarships.

Everyone looks at this from the perspective Ohio St, Texas, and Alabama's of the world. Well what about the Kentucky's, Indiana's, and Wake Forest's?

It's funny if the P5 schools get their way in an all P5 schedule. Some of these teams are never going to have a winning record again. They are going to shoot themselves doing it. The University of Tennessee has 4 straight losing seasons! Tennessee! What happens when schools have to upgrade their schedules?

ND plays 10 P5 teams in 2014, before all of this "autonomy" stuff kicks in. ND has never once played an FCS school.

The two non-P5 teams this year? Rice (10 wins last year) and Navy (9 wins last year).

A30 RICE 3:30pm ET NBC
S06 MICHIGAN 7:30pm NBC
S13 vs. Purdue (LucasOil) 7:30pm NBC
S27 @ Syracuse (Meadowlands)
O04 STANFORD 3:30pm ET NBC
O11 NORTH CAROLINA 3:30pm ET NBC
O18 @ Florida State
N01 @ Navy (Landover, MD) 8pm ET CBS
N08 @ Arizona State
N15 NORTHWESTERN 3:30pm ET NBC
N22 LOUISVILLE 3:30pm ET NBC
N29 @ Southern Cal


Brian Kelly said that any proposed legislation that excludes the ND/Navy game is a "deal breaker" as far as ND is concerned.

Ok but Notre Dame recruits at a high level. What of the Iowa St's or even NC State's. I am telling you these schools are going to struggle to ever have a winning season again. What happens to season ticket holder when "hope" fades from your program?

I am not in favor of the "all P5 schedule" but I do think that the idea is to try to increase every school's SOS.

While that could be a by-product for some (not for others...as teams like BYU, UCF, UC, Houston, etc...are many times ranked well ahead of other P5 schools), I think much of this push is coming from their TV Partners, who see up to 1/3 of a P5's scheduled filled with non-attractive games and many times vs even Div I-AA teams.

Only 20% of the SEC's 56 non-conf games are vs P5 schools.

Imagine if you were a UF Football Season Ticket holder and you had to pay full price for the following non-conf home games this year:

IDAHO
EASTERN MICHIGAN
Div I-AA EASTERN KENTUCKY

Think SEC TV Partners want to show any of those games? Outside of some diehard UF fans (some will pass and almost no casual fan will bother), really think they are getting their $$$ worth being saddled with those pathetic games?

Pac-12 received more TV $$$ by moving to a 9 game conf schedule (only 3 non-conf games), as for most Pac-12 teams...that 9th conf game was a much better match-up vs what they would schedule for their 4th non-conf game.

If you read this, and especially look at the comments where the author answers questions and gives more details, you might find that there are aspects of UT's budget that are not evident when you look at USA Today's database.

http://admin.collegepublisher.com/previe.../1.2140563

UT has hundreds of millions in debt from its football and basketball facilities, and that money is paid for by the academic side. In flush years, the athletic side services the debt, but there have been recent years in which this was not possible, so the burden as shifted. A lot of the debt for these athletic programs is held by the academic side. Michigan is the same way. The AD there pays $4m a year to service $17m worth of yearly debt for facilities.

It was a silly statement. It makes me think he really lives in a "Texas" bubble, many G-5 schools have more or at least equal "value" then many in the P-5.

ND and Texas will have some serious differences on this. Not just the Navy thing either, Army and Air Force will play a role as to why we won't support it. You "demote" one of those schools to being UN-scheduled-able then it effects them all.

Statements like this have really shifted my prospective toward "G-5" and I wish ND would schedule one AAC or MWC team every yr or every other year. Just silliness.

Texas does live in it's own bubble and are legends in their own minds. It's just one measuring stick but the Preseason USA Today poll has the Horns at #45, behind UCF,Boise State, BYU, Bowling Green, Houston, Northern Illinois, Louisiana Lafayette and Cincinnati!

USA Today believes that the 2014 Long Horns would be 4th in the AAC, 3rd in the MAC, 2nd in the MWC, 2nd in the Sunbelt! They have Texas ranked only 3 spots ahead of Navy and 1 ahead of Utah State.

Their football budget is likely the size of the AAC/MWC?MAC/Sunbelt or CUSA combined. Not geting value for their $

(08-11-2014 09:05 AM)DfromCT Wrote:  It really pisses me off that ND is considered part of the P5, despite their refusal to join a conference in Football. In the old BCS days, they got an invite to a BCS bowl if they were in the top 10. It was automatic. The days of the Fighting Irish being relevant year in and year out have come and gone. They even ended their series with Michigan (though they continue to play Purdue) because they have to play more ACC teams.

ND is fueled by money from their contract with NBC. Unfortunately, they have enough fans AND haters that they get ratings. As Alabama proved two years ago, they can waltz through their schedule with no losses and still get lit up by a true BCS contender.

There are several errors in your post.

ND was an automatic BCS bid team if it finished in the top eight.

It could be considered for a BCS bowl if it finished in the top fourteen spots of the BCS poll/b]. [b]It as not automatic, just an eligible to be considered spot. ( In 2002, for instance, ND was ranked in the top 14 of the BCS poll with a 10-2 record, but did not get a BCS bowl bid).

The days of ND being relevant every year are not done, neither on the field nor otherwise. You post alone proves this.

ND plays both Michigan and Purdue this year, then both drop off the schedule for quite a while...2020/21 for Purdue.

(ND plays Michigan State in 2016 and 2017).

There will be no Big Ten team's on ND's schedule for 2015, the first time in 100 years that will happen.

ND has scheduled teams like Texas and Georgia instead, part of its "Southern Strategy" of exposure and games (recruiting) in the Southeast and Southwest.


2014 Football Schedule

A30 RICE 3:30pm ET NBC
S06 MICHIGAN 7:30pm NBC
S13 vs. Purdue (LucasOil) 7:30pm NBC
S27 @ Syracuse (Meadowlands)
O04 STANFORD 3:30pm ET NBC
O11 NORTH CAROLINA 3:30pm ET NBC
O18 @ Florida State
N01 @ Navy (Landover, MD) 8pm ET CBS
N08 @ Arizona State
N15 NORTHWESTERN 3:30pm ET NBC
N22 LOUISVILLE 3:30pm ET NBC
N29 @ Southern Cal


2015 Football Schedule

S05 TEXAS
S12 @ Virginia
S19 GEORGIA TECH
S26 UMASS
O03 @ Clemson
O10 NAVY
O17 SOUTHERN CAL
O31 @ Temple (LFSF)
N07 @ Pittsburgh
N14 WAKE FOREST
N21 BOSTON COLLEGE (Fenway Pk.)
N28 @ Stanford


2016 Football Schedule

S03 @ Texas
S10 NEVADA
S17 MICHIGAN STATE
S24 DUKE
O01 @ Syracuse (Meadowlands)
O08 @ North Carolina State
O15 STANFORD
O29 MIAMI
N05 @ Navy
N12 ARMY (Alamodome)
N19 VIRGINIA TECH
N26 @ Southern Cal


2017 Football Schedule

not official
S09 GEORGIA
TEMPLE
NAVY
SOUTHERN CAL
@ Michigan State
@ Stanford
2 ACC at home
3 ACC away


2018 Football Schedule

not official

STANFORD
@ Navy
@ Southern Cal
3 ACC at home
2 ACC away


2019 Football Schedule

not official

S19 @ Georgia
NAVY
SOUTHERN CAL
@ Texas
@ Stanford
2 ACC at home
3 ACC away


2020 Football Schedule

not official

TEXAS
STANFORD
@ Purdue
@ Navy
@ Southern Cal
3 ACC at home
2 ACC away


2021 Football Schedule

not official

PURDUE
NAVY
SOUTHERN CAL
@ Stanford
2 ACC at home
3 ACC away


2022 Football Schedule

not official

STANFORD
@ Navy
@ Southern Cal
3 ACC at home
2 ACC away



ND makes less TV money from NBC as a football independent than Purdue and Indiana make just from being members of the Big Ten.

If it were about money, ND would be in the Big Ten. It is not.

ND wants to be independent for a national identity as the Catholic University in America, for recruiting exposure, for student applicant exposure in all areas of the country, so its alumni and fans can go see them play live all over America, and for a host of other reasons.

ND beat Stanford, Southern Cal, Michigan State, Michigan and a number of other good teams to go 12-0 in 2012. "Waltzing" seems a bit leisurely considering that lineup.

(Rick Reilly made the mistake of calling ND "irrelevant" right before that 12-0 run).

I think that most every team would have gotten beat badly by Alabama that day.

What about the year prior to that? LSU was shut out by Alabama in the title game and did not even cross mid-field.

Did LSU "waltz" as well?