One of the LGBT movement's central figures supported it.

I think only loons support it but if you haven't noticed lately movements are driven by their extreme fringes.

The sources used by the "study" done by the FRC do not support their claims.

Quote:In summary, the scientific sources cited by the FRC report do not support their argument. Most of the studies they referenced did not even assess the sexual orientation of abusers. Two studies explicitly concluded that sexual orientation and child molestation are unrelated. Notably, the FRC failed to cite the 1978 study by Groth and Birnbaum, which also contradicted their argument. Only one study (Erickson et al., 1988) might be interpreted as supporting the FRC argument, and it failed to detail its measurement procedures and did not differentiate bisexual from homosexual offenders.

http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/faculty_si...ation.html

Great link though.

(07-28-2014 11:49 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(07-28-2014 11:48 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(07-28-2014 11:44 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  The gay community accepts and defends their pedophiles while denying the linkage as they groom their recruits.

Really? The whole community? I'm quite sure that there are a minority of gay people who would participate and accept pedophilia just as there are a minority of straight people who would participate and accept pedophilia. Labelling all gay people as pedophiliacs is completely disingenuous and libelous.

It isn't a minority.

Please show me the gallup polls that support your statement that the majority of gay people support pedophilia.

(07-28-2014 11:53 AM)mlb Wrote:  The sources used by the "study" done by the FRC do not support their claims.

Quote:In summary, the scientific sources cited by the FRC report do not support their argument. Most of the studies they referenced did not even assess the sexual orientation of abusers. Two studies explicitly concluded that sexual orientation and child molestation are unrelated. Notably, the FRC failed to cite the 1978 study by Groth and Birnbaum, which also contradicted their argument. Only one study (Erickson et al., 1988) might be interpreted as supporting the FRC argument, and it failed to detail its measurement procedures and did not differentiate bisexual from homosexual offenders.

http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/faculty_si...ation.html

Great link though.

The FRC fears peer review...

Quote:September 2002

(07-28-2014 10:00 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Is there anyone left still denying this?

The better question is whether there is anyone left who actually believes it to be true?

There is no link between homosexuality and pedophiles.

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(07-28-2014 12:27 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  There is no link between homosexuality and pedophiles.

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Wrong again, the link is mind blowing. Homosexual grooms boy, boy becomes homosexual, boy becomes man, man grooms boy, repeat.

Quote:For years, counselors, pastors and lay people who worked with men coming out of homosexuality noted that many of these men suffered from disproportionate rates of sexual abuse. (2) They recognized that sexual abuse seemed to be one of the risk factors that might contribute to the development of same-sex attractions.

Rev. Perdue, for example, has worked in Christian ministry for more than 25 years. He serves as Chairman of the Board of Directors for Regeneration, a ministry that helps men and women overcome sexual and relational brokenness – including sexual abuse, sexual addiction and homosexuality. He says:

I have done a lot of counseling with men who struggle with same-sex attraction. Some have been in the lifestyle, others have battled with lust and pornography. I would estimate that in three-fourths of the cases, there was some sort of sexual abuse or misconduct that formed a powerful memory which contributed to the struggle. (3)

Other writers have noted the connection as well, although the numbers they cite vary depending on which studies they reference. Drs. Stanton Jones and Mark Yarhouse analyzed data from what is probably the best survey of sexual behavior in America. They write, “Experience of sexual abuse as a child, in other words, more than tripled the likelihood of later reporting homosexual orientation.” They continue, “Other studies have reported the same trend.” (4) In 1995, Dr. Thomas Schmidt, author of Straight and Narrow, cited two different studies about high rates of sexual abuse in homosexual and bisexual men. He writes:

Nevertheless, it is disturbing to find that although under 4 percent of boys are molested by men, a recent major study found that the rate of childhood molestation by men among homosexual or bisexual men was nearly ten times that (35 percent). It is also notable that 75 percent of homosexual men report their first homosexual experience prior to the age of sixteen, as compared to 22 percent of heterosexual men reporting their first heterosexual experience. (5)

http://www.citizenlink.com/2010/06/17/ch...sexuality/

Quote:MYTH # 1
Gay men molest children at far higher rates than heterosexuals.

THE ARGUMENT
Depicting gay men as a threat to children may be the single most potent weapon for stoking public fears about homosexuality — and for winning elections and referenda, as Anita Bryant found out during her successful 1977 campaign to overturn a Dade County, Fla., ordinance barring discrimination against gay people. Discredited psychologist Paul Cameron, the most ubiquitous purveyor of anti-gay junk science, has been a major promoter of this myth. Despite having been debunked repeatedly and very publicly, Cameron's work is still widely relied upon by anti-gay organizations, although many no longer quote him by name. Others have cited a group called the American College of Pediatricians to claim, as Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council did in November 2010, that "the research is overwhelming that homosexuality poses a [molestation] danger to children."

THE FACTS
According to the American Psychological Association, "homosexual men are not more likely to sexually abuse children than heterosexual men are." Gregory Herek, a professor at the University of California, Davis, who is one of the nation's leading researchers on prejudice against sexual minorities, reviewed a series of studies and found no evidence that gay men molest children at higher rates than heterosexual men.

Anti-gay activists who make that claim allege that all men who molest male children should be seen as homosexual. But research by A. Nicholas Groth, a pioneer in the field of sexual abuse of children, shows that is not so. Groth found that there are two types of child molesters: fixated and regressive. The fixated child molester — the stereotypical pedophile — cannot be considered homosexual or heterosexual because "he often finds adults of either sex repulsive" and often molests children of both sexes. Regressive child molesters are generally attracted to other adults, but may "regress" to focusing on children when confronted with stressful situations. Groth found that the majority of regressed offenders were heterosexual in their adult relationships.

The Child Molestation Research and Prevention Institute notes that 90% of child molesters target children in their network of family and friends. Most child molesters, therefore, are not gay people lingering outside schools waiting to snatch children from the playground, as much religious-right rhetoric suggests.

Some anti-gay ideologues cite the American College of Pediatricians' opposition to same-sex parenting as if the organization were a legitimate professional body. In fact, the so-called college is a tiny breakaway faction of the similarly named, 60,000-member American Academy of Pediatrics that requires, as a condition of membership, that joiners "hold true to the group's core beliefs ... [including] that the traditional family unit, headed by an opposite-sex couple, poses far fewer risk factors in the adoption and raising of children." The group's 2010 publication Facts About Youth was described by the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Psychological Association as non-factual. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health, was one of several legitimate researchers who said Facts misrepresented their findings. "It is disturbing to me to see special interest groups distort my scientific observations to make a point against homosexuality," he wrote. "The information they present is misleading and incorrect."

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/in...r/10-myths

You incapable of straighting out the curves in that article?

(07-28-2014 12:54 PM)Paul M Wrote:  You incapable of straighting out the curves in that article?

Correllation does not equal causation. Stats can be completely manipulated... you should know this by now with the global warming flawed statistics.

But the SPLC would never manipulate data....

Quote:The fixated child molester — the stereotypical pedophile — cannot be considered homosexual or heterosexual because "he often finds adults of either sex repulsive" and often molests children of both sexes.

Uh, yeah, I guess they aren't linked because they don't count.

(07-28-2014 01:03 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  But the SPLC would never manipulate data....

Quote:The fixated child molester — the stereotypical pedophile — cannot be considered homosexual or heterosexual because "he often finds adults of either sex repulsive" and often molests children of both sexes.

Uh, yeah, I guess they aren't linked because they don't count.

How do you claim the person is homosexual if he is molesting both sexes?

(07-28-2014 01:06 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(07-28-2014 01:03 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  But the SPLC would never manipulate data....

Quote:The fixated child molester — the stereotypical pedophile — cannot be considered homosexual or heterosexual because "he often finds adults of either sex repulsive" and often molests children of both sexes.

Uh, yeah, I guess they aren't linked because they don't count.

How do you claim the person is homosexual if he is molesting both sexes?

It is an extremely open-ended, ambiguous, and misleading sentence. Ok, if someone molests both sexes, let's throw just those out or count them as bisexual. I wonder how they define the word "often"?

(07-28-2014 01:10 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  It is an extremely open-ended, ambiguous, and misleading sentence. Ok, if someone molests both sexes, let's throw just those out or count them as bisexual. I wonder how they define the word "often"?

Obviously those people aren't just homosexual or heterosexual... they should have their own category.

(07-28-2014 01:12 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(07-28-2014 01:10 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  It is an extremely open-ended, ambiguous, and misleading sentence. Ok, if someone molests both sexes, let's throw just those out or count them as bisexual. I wonder how they define the word "often"?

Obviously those people aren't just homosexual or heterosexual... they should have their own category.

I beg to differ. They fall under the same category as homos, bis, and trannies: Pervert.

(07-28-2014 01:18 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  I beg to differ. They fall under the same category as homos, bis, and trannies: Pervert.

Who else falls under pervert?

Heteros who like anal?
Heteros who watch porn?
Heteros who practice oral?
Heteros who like giving/getting rim jobs?
Heteros who like doggystyle?
Heteros who like to 69?

Or is none of that perverted?

(07-28-2014 01:12 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(07-28-2014 01:10 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  It is an extremely open-ended, ambiguous, and misleading sentence. Ok, if someone molests both sexes, let's throw just those out or count them as bisexual. I wonder how they define the word "often"?

Obviously those people aren't just homosexual or heterosexual... they should have their own category.

If they're molesting males or females what difference does it make? Why not just call them perverts? Fits the bill for either one.

Anyone that would eat or penetrate a butt hole is a pervert.

(07-28-2014 11:53 AM)mlb Wrote:  The sources used by the "study" done by the FRC do not support their claims.

Quote:In summary, the scientific sources cited by the FRC report do not support their argument. Most of the studies they referenced did not even assess the sexual orientation of abusers. Two studies explicitly concluded that sexual orientation and child molestation are unrelated. Notably, the FRC failed to cite the 1978 study by Groth and Birnbaum, which also contradicted their argument. Only one study (Erickson et al., 1988) might be interpreted as supporting the FRC argument, and it failed to detail its measurement procedures and did not differentiate bisexual from homosexual offenders.

http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/faculty_si...ation.html

Great link though.

I don't think the OP could have made a bigger a.ss of himself than this thread.