Yea, I did. So what? "We could say this every time I come on your show". Need he continue from there? No, it's too predictable, but he does. To what?
"Disproportionate response from Israel", well guess what? Damn right, skippy. You send one missile our way, we're sending ten back yours. You send two, we'll send 20. So, now, how long you wanna dance pardner?
He doesn't have some earth shattering revelation here, he's simply bemoaning the same thing you apparently are. That Israel is simply too damn good at this stuff.
So I'll ask again. Should Israel simply dumb it down to tit-for-tat? You send a rocket our way, we'll indiscriminately send a rocket back at you. That's "fair" isn't it? Course it spells faaaaaar more civilian deaths all over the place in Gaza, but at least it will be an even playing field, right?
You know there's a pretty simple way for this to end. CAre to take a shot at what that is?
07-25-2014 06:34 PM
Machiavelli
Back to Reality. Oh there goes Gravity
Posts: 25,179
Joined: Apr 2006
I Root For: BGSU
Location:
RE: Video: Hamas Fires At IDF Forces From Hospital,
(07-25-2014 06:39 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: How can you watch that and come with that response?
"He's simply bemoaning the same thing you apparently are. That Israel is simply too damn good at this stuff."
You are a hopeless cause if you watched that video and took away that.
Okay, then tell me what I should have taken away? I clearly watched it, didn't I quote it pretty directly?
If you're simply going to scream, yet again, "INNOCENT CIVILIANS",. then save your breath. There's only one side that is intentionally targeting civilians, we've been over this.
One side makes an effort to limit the casualties, which while unfortunate are going to happen, the other is begging, hoping and praying that more of their missile make it through so more civilians die.
Fact.
07-25-2014 06:43 PM
Machiavelli
Back to Reality. Oh there goes Gravity
Posts: 25,179
Joined: Apr 2006
I Root For: BGSU
Location:
RE: Video: Hamas Fires At IDF Forces From Hospital,
(07-25-2014 07:48 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: The cognitive dissonance out of you is quite amazing.
Are you asserting that Hamas is not using Civilians as de facto human shields?
Are you asserting the IDF is not making efforts to warn civilians?
Both?
Again, no one here is happy that civilians have died. So no need to keep asserting that.
RE: Video: Hamas Fires At IDF Forces From Hospital,
(07-25-2014 07:48 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: The cognitive dissonance out of you is quite amazing.
Do tell, coward. I asked you, plain and simple, so what should I have taken from this? Your response? Another idiotic personal attack cause you got nothing.
Mach- answer the legit questions I have asked repeatedly and maybe we have a discussion.
Instead, your use of psychological terms you don't even understand, when trying to dismiss those questions, is instead quite amazing.
Who is using civilians as targets and praying for more deaths? Who is praying for fewer deaths and no need to target anyone?
"Cognitive dissonance" my asss. You don't even know what it means. PUOSU.
RE: Video: Hamas Fires At IDF Forces From Hospital,
JMU is right. Cognitive Dissonance is supposed to cause internal conflict. A hypocrite would be more apropos. Congrats.
What I would have hoped you would have taken from that is how the American Media always takes Israel's viewpoint in it's coverage. Another big one is Hamas does not = Palestinians.
RE: Video: Hamas Fires At IDF Forces From Hospital,
(07-25-2014 02:43 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: Have you ever watched one of those Nightline Ted Koppel town hall meetings? . It's quite evident who the bully is. I looked for it on youtube to put on here but can't find one.
We need to bring those back. Our media does a terrible job here.
Ted Koppel. The spokesman for the extreme left. Try again Mach.
RE: Video: Hamas Fires At IDF Forces From Hospital,
(07-26-2014 01:47 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: JMU is right. Cognitive Dissonance is supposed to cause internal conflict. A hypocrite would be more apropos. Congrats.
What I would have hoped you would have taken from that is how the American Media always takes Israel's viewpoint in it's coverage. Another big one is Hamas does not = Palestinians.
Apparently you don't understand "hypocrite" either. Where has there been hypocrisy here?
Fact is, I'm right, here. And you clearly know that, or you would refute or offer a coherent argument against the points or rhetorical questions I have asked.
But, you don't, won't or can't do that. So you throw out terms you know nothing about, in the hopes that no one else will either.
As to these deep revelations this self-important ninny puts out there to the Huff-Huff Po, I will offer as clear and astute a response as I can muster. One befitting the depth of discovery and Sha-Zamism of these incontrovertible and irrefutable certainties.
RE: Video: Hamas Fires At IDF Forces From Hospital,
Israel is in the right here and will do what it takes to exist. If Hamas truly enjoys dying, then Israel should serve it up. I tire of handwringing liberal apologists like Mach who blindly defend the actions of terrorist groups that cause the death of civilians while denouncing Israel responses. F/uck Hamas and their pathological terrorist mindset. Hamas uses children for shields, fires rockets from hospitals, kindergartens, and mosques and idiots like Mach condemn Israel's response? To heill with that crybaby bullsh!t. Israel should suspend the drama and just TCB once and for all.
RE: Video: Hamas Fires At IDF Forces From Hospital,
(07-27-2014 09:18 AM)boss man Wrote: Israel is in the right here and will do what it takes to exist. If Hamas truly enjoys dying, then Israel should serve it up. I tire of handwringing liberal apologists like Mach who blindly defend the actions of terrorist groups that cause the death of civilians while denouncing Israel responses. F/uck Hamas and their pathological terrorist mindset. Hamas uses children for shields, fires rockets from hospitals, kindergartens, and mosques and idiots like Mach condemn Israel's response? To heill with that crybaby bullsh!t. Israel should suspend the drama and just TCB once and for all.
Mach? You still with us here?
Or simply hoping this will fall off the front page, eventually?
I tossed out a couple questions above, also, care to get back to us? thx.
RE: Video: Hamas Fires At IDF Forces From Hospital,
(07-24-2014 11:08 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote: Last I saw, the civilian casualty count was:
Palestinian civilians killed by IDF: around 700
Israeli civilians killed by Hamas: 3.
If that's showing great restraint to you, I'd hate to see how many civilian deaths it would take to bother you. Or is that even possible, considering who it is being killed?
These aren't trustworthy sources like the IDF propaganda YouTube video you posted (because we know that couldn't have possibly been manipulated), but there are numerous reports of IDF forces firing knowingly on civilians, including the UN school that was targeted.
Thank you for your sanity. To the rest of you, grow a ******* conscience and open mind. Disgusted at the lack of care for innocent life here and the amount of propaganda being continuously repeated.
RE: Video: Hamas Fires At IDF Forces From Hospital,
(07-25-2014 02:28 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:
(07-25-2014 01:23 AM)pharaoh0 Wrote:
(07-25-2014 01:18 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:
(07-24-2014 11:08 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote: Last I saw, the civilian casualty count was:
Palestinian civilians killed by IDF: around 700
Israeli civilians killed by Hamas: 3.
If that's showing great restraint to you, I'd hate to see how many civilian deaths it would take to bother you. Or is that even possible, considering who it is being killed?
These aren't trustworthy sources like the IDF propaganda YouTube video you posted (because we know that couldn't have possibly been manipulated), but there are numerous reports of IDF forces firing knowingly on civilians, including the UN school that was targeted.
So what? You want more dead Jews to even things out? Is that it? Or do you want fewer dead Palistinians to stop this madness?
Which is it? More dead Jews, call Hamas' friends in, I guess. Iran perhaps, there are others though. Fewer dead Palistinians? Call off their Hamas brethren, kick them out of their homes, hospitals, schools, UN sanctioned buildings and whatever else.
Why is this so hard to understand? Harbor a terrorist, you ARE are a terrorist. Aid and comfort, you ARE a terrorist. Allow them in your Mosque/School/hospital... why would you even be confused when the bombs hit?
Pretty simple stuff, but clearly the hamas terrorists have NO desire for peace.None. Anyone want to argue that?
Exactly. And, let's not forget the number of human shields being used (and admitted on arab tv) by Hamas. Also, let's not forget about the Hamas guys carrying babies while shooting at the IDF.
Hamas kills children, therefore it's perfectly acceptable that Israel kills children?
According to 90% of this board, yes. Some people are taught something for so long that they can't question it even when it turns out to be wrong. It's kind of like how a lot of 70+ year old white southerners are still racists. Ignorance fuels hate and intolerance.
It's not bs. This was a pr release. "see we do it the right way"........ after toppling an 8 story apartment building.
It is what it is.
CYA time.
Maybe Iran will drop a nuke on Israel and you can celebrate. I mean we know what would make you really happy. It is what it is.
You theorize one of the extreme few people posting on this board in outrage over the loss of innocent civilian life would cheer for an entire country being nuked? Pay attention.
RE: Video: Hamas Fires At IDF Forces From Hospital,
(07-25-2014 01:07 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: ERC.
All the stuff you just said. How is bombing an 8 story apartment building filled with families with no discernible Hamas ties an answer? Think this through. Their actions only emboldened Hamas.
Now no one is wishing for an Iranian nuclear bomb n Tel Aviv as you so eloquently stated. I now answered your question. Now try to answer mine.
How is bombing an 8 story apartment building filled with families with no discernible Hamas ties an answer?
The fact that any American can deny the existence of blowback just proves how well the propaganda machine works in this country.
