Doing a fall marathon (done three halfs). I currently run my tempo and long runs in Asics (alternate b/t the Cumulus and 2100).

I like the cushioning of the above shoes, but want something lighter for my marathon. I run my short races in Wave Ronin's but they aren't cushioned enough for 26.2.

A few lighter shoes are on my radar but I haven't made a choice.

I've looked at the Sayonara, the Pure Connect 3, the Kinvara 5 and the New Balance 1400v2.

I didn't like the Kinvara, mostly due to the slight drop. I REALLY liked the NB 1400v2 but I'm not sure it is a marathon shoe.

Any ideas/suggestions?

If you wear whichever shoe in training for the longer runs, I would imagine you can run the marathon in them. Pick the one you like the best and go with it!

2 years ago when I ran the St Jude, I ran in Vivo Barefoot Neos for majority (>80%) of training and marathon so I'm probably not the best to ask when it comes to cushioning. Also, both of my halfs were done in Five Fingers.

I don't have anything to offer, probably more of a question. I was looking at some shoes the other day and Nike had a ton of running shoes. I got a pair with the Nike Fit +, only to find out later that it doesn't work on bikes, but I'll wear them anyway.

Is Nike a player in the serious runner's market?

(07-17-2014 11:36 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  I don't have anything to offer, probably more of a question. I was looking at some shoes the other day and Nike had a ton of running shoes. I got a pair with the Nike Fit +, only to find out later that it doesn't work on bikes, but I'll wear them anyway.

Is Nike a player in the serious runner's market?

Yeah, Nike is huge. Especially among elites.

http://sneakerreport.com/news/first-100-...nish-line/

Nike is a fine shoe but don't get brand loyal when it comes to a running shoe that you will log miles in. Go to a place like Breakaway Running and they will look at your feet and watch you run/walk to see if you over pronate, neutral, etc. They will pair you with the best shoe that fits your biomechanics. It might take a few tries to get the right shoe but if you have pain with it just bring it back within 30 days and they will fit you for another shoe until it is right. I was lucky it only took me two pairs to get my shoes.

To the OP, I say if it ain't broke don't fix it when it comes to shoes. Changing shoes changes your running style and that can lead to injury really quick. Be careful if changing but I'd go to Breakaway Running and their staff will get you fixed up. They are all runners and most of them are VERY good runners.

(07-17-2014 11:16 AM)MemphisNate Wrote:  If you wear whichever shoe in training for the longer runs, I would imagine you can run the marathon in them. Pick the one you like the best and go with it!

2 years ago when I ran the St Jude, I ran in Vivo Barefoot Neos for majority (>80%) of training and marathon so I'm probably not the best to ask when it comes to cushioning. Also, both of my halfs were done in Five Fingers.

Nice. I can't do minimal.

Yeah, I guess my point was my trainers are a bit heavy (11+ oz) and was looking to lighten up a bit for the race and the few weeks preceding it. Was basically hoping to have a little extra pop for the actual race.

Hoka One One Clifton.

#doit

Skechers is making a big push. They are now the No.3 shoe company behind Nike and Adidas. They make some super running shoes. The guy that won the Boston Marathon was wearing Skechers this year and he was 38 yrs. old and considered a longshot.

(07-18-2014 10:51 AM)mairving Wrote:  Skechers is making a big push. They are now the No.3 shoe company behind Nike and Adidas. They make some super running shoes. The guy that won the Boston Marathon was wearing Skechers this year and he was 38 yrs. old and considered a longshot.

Yeah, there are really affordable, too.

(07-18-2014 11:03 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 10:51 AM)mairving Wrote:  Skechers is making a big push. They are now the No.3 shoe company behind Nike and Adidas. They make some super running shoes. The guy that won the Boston Marathon was wearing Skechers this year and he was 38 yrs. old and considered a longshot.

Yeah, there are really affordable, too.

My brothers a VP at Skechers so I have a lot of Skechers shoes.

I really like the asics nimbus and kinsei

I've done all my marathons in saucony
I've never heard of anyone switching shoes very often between training and race day.
Did I read that right? That this is what you're wanting to do?

either way... good luck to you.
When I finished my first, it was both the best and worst day of my life.

(07-18-2014 03:49 PM)Willie Becton Wrote:  I've done all my marathons in saucony
I've never heard of anyone switching shoes very often between training and race day.
Did I read that right? That this is what you're wanting to do?

either way... good luck to you.
When I finished my first, it was both the best and worst day of my life.

From what I have seen, it isn't terribly uncommon to alternate/use multiple shoes shoes during training.

Basically, my Cumulus are nearing the end of their shelf life and with about two and a half months until the marathon, I'm looking to buy a new pair. Instead of getting another pair of Cumulus (about 11.5 oz) I'm looking for something a little lighter/less clunky.

I really liked the feel of the Saucony Kinvara 5, but the low drop would be too much of a transition. I tried the Mizuno Wave Rider 17 and it was pretty nice. Good cushioning but a bit lighter. Just wondering if others had any recent experiences with lighter weight trainers that could hold up for a marathon distance.

(07-19-2014 03:31 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 03:49 PM)Willie Becton Wrote:  I've done all my marathons in saucony
I've never heard of anyone switching shoes very often between training and race day.
Did I read that right? That this is what you're wanting to do?

either way... good luck to you.
When I finished my first, it was both the best and worst day of my life.

From what I have seen, it isn't terribly uncommon to alternate/use multiple shoes shoes during training.

Basically, my Cumulus are nearing the end of there shelf life and with about two and a half months until the marathon, I'm looking to buy a new pair. Instead of getting another pair of Cumulus (about 11.5 oz) I'm looking for something a little lighter/less clunky.

I really liked the feel of the Saucony Kinvara 5, but the low drop would be too much of a transition. I tried the Mizuno Wave Rider 17 and it was pretty nice. Good cushioning but a bit lighter. Just wondering if others had any recent experiences with lighter weight trainers that could hold up for a marathon distance.

I did a group run run recently and the Adidas rep was there, I did a test run (just 4 miles) in the Adidas Supernova Sequence Boost and I really liked them. They feel light but give you a lot of cushion. They come in at 10.9 oz so it's a touch lighter than your Asics. I think it won Runners World best update for this year. Adidas is making some really good running shoes and the "boost" material is actually pretty cool although it sounds kinda cheesy. Runners World did some testing and essentially validated Adidas claim that they provide enhanced energy return.

On the downside, it's a little pricey. $130. I had just bought a trainer shoe, the Brooks Ravenna 4, so I'm not in need of a new shoe at this point. The Ravenna's are fine, but I really did like the Sequence Boost, so I'm kinda regretting the purchase. Of course, I paid about half what I would have had to pay for the Sequence Boost.

My prior shoes were the Saucony Mirage 3 and I love them, but they seemed to wear fast and I felt like I needed just a touch more support than they were offering. They also have a 4 mm drop, which I think was contributing to some ankle problems. I have two pair, which I was alternating, both have about 130 miles on them and I don't think they will make it to 200. The Mirage 4 is out now.

Got a blister today doing 6 miles. Same New Balance shoes as before but different socks. What a biatch!!

(07-19-2014 03:31 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 03:49 PM)Willie Becton Wrote:  I've done all my marathons in saucony
I've never heard of anyone switching shoes very often between training and race day.
Did I read that right? That this is what you're wanting to do?

either way... good luck to you.
When I finished my first, it was both the best and worst day of my life.

From what I have seen, it isn't terribly uncommon to alternate/use multiple shoes shoes during training.

Basically, my Cumulus are nearing the end of their shelf life and with about two and a half months until the marathon, I'm looking to buy a new pair. Instead of getting another pair of Cumulus (about 11.5 oz) I'm looking for something a little lighter/less clunky.

I really liked the feel of the Saucony Kinvara 5, but the low drop would be too much of a transition. I tried the Mizuno Wave Rider 17 and it was pretty nice. Good cushioning but a bit lighter. Just wondering if others had any recent experiences with lighter weight trainers that could hold up for a marathon distance.

I done told ya son.

Hoka One One Clifton. 7.9 oz. I have a pair of the Stinson Tarmacs. Too heavy for what you want.

(07-21-2014 04:23 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  Got a blister today doing 6 miles. Same New Balance shoes as before but different socks. What a biatch!!

Slap a piece of moleskin on it and you are good to go.

(07-21-2014 04:46 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(07-19-2014 03:31 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 03:49 PM)Willie Becton Wrote:  I've done all my marathons in saucony
I've never heard of anyone switching shoes very often between training and race day.
Did I read that right? That this is what you're wanting to do?

either way... good luck to you.
When I finished my first, it was both the best and worst day of my life.

From what I have seen, it isn't terribly uncommon to alternate/use multiple shoes shoes during training.

Basically, my Cumulus are nearing the end of their shelf life and with about two and a half months until the marathon, I'm looking to buy a new pair. Instead of getting another pair of Cumulus (about 11.5 oz) I'm looking for something a little lighter/less clunky.

I really liked the feel of the Saucony Kinvara 5, but the low drop would be too much of a transition. I tried the Mizuno Wave Rider 17 and it was pretty nice. Good cushioning but a bit lighter. Just wondering if others had any recent experiences with lighter weight trainers that could hold up for a marathon distance.

I done told ya son.

Hoka One One Clifton. 7.9 oz. I have a pair of the Stinson Tarmacs. Too heavy for what you want.

This guy loves the Clifton:

http://www.runningshoesguru.com/2014/07/...on-review/

I have read a lot of his reviews from when I was searching for shoes. He's generally pretty positive, but this is about as good a review as you can get.

I've heard good things but the general super cushioning of Hoka's can come at the expense of responsiveness. That and the $150 price tag.

I tried the Sayonara's but didn't think it was enough shoe for 26. I liked the Brooks Ravena, the Saucony Ride 7 and the Mizuno Wave Runner 17.

Ended up with the New Balance 890v3. I tried and liked the v4 and by most accounts they are very similar, but the v3 was a steal online. If I don't dig them when I get them I'll likely go with the Wave Rider.

(07-19-2014 03:31 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 03:49 PM)Willie Becton Wrote:  I've done all my marathons in saucony
I've never heard of anyone switching shoes very often between training and race day.
Did I read that right? That this is what you're wanting to do?

either way... good luck to you.
When I finished my first, it was both the best and worst day of my life.

From what I have seen, it isn't terribly uncommon to alternate/use multiple shoes shoes during training.

Basically, my Cumulus are nearing the end of their shelf life and with about two and a half months until the marathon, I'm looking to buy a new pair. Instead of getting another pair of Cumulus (about 11.5 oz) I'm looking for something a little lighter/less clunky.

I really liked the feel of the Saucony Kinvara 5, but the low drop would be too much of a transition. I tried the Mizuno Wave Rider 17 and it was pretty nice. Good cushioning but a bit lighter. Just wondering if others had any recent experiences with lighter weight trainers that could hold up for a marathon distance.

It's not that uncommon for elite runners who are experienced and know their body. For the average age grouper it's fairly uncommon unless you are very experienced.

Changing shoes out is kind of asking for an injury.

The only time I change out shoes is trail running. For that I run in trail shoes with minimal support since you don't really need it on the trail.

If you have a shot at winning your age group I say give it a try to save the weight but if you are in the middle of the pack, it isn't worth the injury, IMHO.