(07-18-2014 02:35 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Where really pointing out these things as "really bad since 2008" because it's convenient. Of course it may seem as such due to the advancement of social media and blogs--more opportunity to hear about such things. The same was probably said around the progression of the printing press, radio, and television.

The reaction here is a good example of the availability heuristic: "if it seems worse, then it must be worse". That's a fallacy.

Social media is a very good example of this. It's the fastest way for people to spread their message. While your example makes sense, it's because of what I said, paired with "education" and social media that has stuck this country in the crap pot.

(07-18-2014 02:36 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Paranoia.

Deep destroya.

(07-18-2014 12:37 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 12:32 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  Am I that much older?

I apologize if I'm wrong. I thought you had grown kids and were in your late 40's to early 50's. I'll kick myself for you if you need me to

No worries. I'm 47, I just didn't think it was that huge of a difference in age. My younger son is only 11.

(07-18-2014 03:31 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 12:37 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 12:32 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  Am I that much older?

I apologize if I'm wrong. I thought you had grown kids and were in your late 40's to early 50's. I'll kick myself for you if you need me to

No worries. I'm 47, I just didn't think it was that huge of a difference in age. My younger son is only 11.

That's 12 years... You would have understood the Clinton years much better than me... I was in Middle and High School during his tenure so I never paid much attention. Looks like you stopped making babies a few years before me, my youngest just turned 6

(07-18-2014 11:12 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 11:05 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Do you people ever read anything other than what agrees with your own world view, or do you just scan the internet for pablum you already believe?

Same question for you.

I asked first

Bush's unprecedented assault on individual freedom after 9-11 is the defining moment. If Obama's legislative efforts are as marxist as some wackos on here think, it'll all be overturned. Bush's Homeland Security is here to stay. Chilling.

(07-18-2014 05:07 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Bush's unprecedented assault on individual freedom after 9-11 is the defining moment. If Obama's legislative efforts are as marxist as some wackos on here think, it'll all be overturned. Bush's Homeland Security is here to stay. Chilling.

Orwellian and contradictory.......and very true

(07-18-2014 05:07 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Bush's unprecedented assault on individual freedom after 9-11 is the defining moment. If Obama's legislative efforts are as marxist as some wackos on here think, it'll all be overturned. Bush's Homeland Security is here to stay. Chilling.

Bush bought it, revved it up, handed Obama the keys and he's leaning on the gas pedal.

Neither one is a friend or respecter of the Constitution.

(07-18-2014 05:01 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 11:12 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 11:05 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Do you people ever read anything other than what agrees with your own world view, or do you just scan the internet for pablum you already believe?

Same question for you.

I asked first

Well, I don't know if your question was directed at me, but I've already answered it many times on here. I search all viewpoints because that is the only way to get the total picture.

Now I asked second, so you can answer second.

(07-18-2014 05:07 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Bush's unprecedented assault on individual freedom after 9-11 is the defining moment. If Obama's legislative efforts are as marxist as some wackos on here think, it'll all be overturned. Bush's Homeland Security is here to stay. Chilling.

Exactly what will be overturned? And how and why?

(07-18-2014 12:36 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  The assault began when America was founded.

Here's a good column.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/07/t...iracy.html