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RE: DMV tells 2 trans to remove make up for license photo
(07-11-2014 06:23 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: (07-11-2014 03:37 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote: (07-11-2014 03:06 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: Hey use words like "Trannies" and get lumped in with those that know that the word is offensive but still use it anyway.
Sexual deviance is another term that makes you seem like a hater.
Or comparing me to a criminal because I'm a Gay man, like you just did.
Hey, sound like Phelps and get called out on it. Where do you disagree with Phelps, theologically? You already called me a criminal, so I assume you, like Phelps believes in criminalization of being Gay. You use terms like deviance and presume things about my sex life for purposes of making me seem lurid, like Phelps does for Gays. You apparently have no concern about the tone or the content of your speech and choose to use the most offensive terms possible and appear to be proud of it.
OMG. Grow thicker skin...really. I never called you a criminal. Nor, did I say I hated you. I believe many activities are plain meaning deviant. I don't believe in the criminalization of homosexuality, for the record. Do whatever you want to do in the privacy of your own home as long as you aren't harming anyone and the person isn't underage. I just disagree with marriage that isn't between one man and one woman. I also disagree with having special laws for people based on how they choose to identify (and not just related to sexuality).
It is you that has the problem. Anyone that disagrees with any part of the homosexual/transsexual lifestyle is a hater and mean to you. Life is about more than labels and such. I am sure you see yourself as more than a "gay man". I am sure you don't walk up to people and say, "Hi, I am Tom the gay man.". Just as I don't go around unloading my Christian faith on people. My Christian faith is a big part of who I am as a person, just as being gay is a big part of who you are as a person. But, I don't see a rejection of my beliefs as a rejection of me. Tolerance does not mean I have to accept all things about all people. It means I have to accept you as a person, but maybe not all of your actions or everything you believe in.
I do believe that there are some terms that probably are more hurtful than others to certain people. But, you can't go around attacking people for using terms that are just innocuous in nature and calling them a hater if they choose to continue using them. You have to pick your battles and to go ballistic over someone using "trannies" is just too much P/C. There are many other names that people could use to be intentionally hurtful...but, they didn't because that wasn't the point.
I have known many people over the years that are gay or transsexual. I have been friends with many of them (and they know my Christian beliefs). There are things that I do that do not jive with their ethics or beliefs. But, we all look past that to things that we agree on and like, which are many.
Just as you want people to be understanding of you and the choices you make or the desires you are born with, you have to do the same regarding the beliefs of others. Not everyone is a mean, hateful, vile individual just because they disagree with you or don't want to be p/c.
Within the context of discussion this issue, you referred to criminals, people who have sex with animals, etc. Look at your post. The comparison was implicit, but it was there. There was no reason to bring up beastiality, pedophilia, or criminal behavior other than to try to associate that with the subject at hand. Its annoying. Its also transparent.
And after being told that the term you were using was considered pejorative, your response was..."Don't care".
Look, if you'd like to not be subject to the stereotype of a 'Christian' who hates Gay/Trans persons and who insults and demeans them.....Then please consider not feeding that stereotype. Part of that is tone and part of that is language.
Here again, you are being touchy, overly sensitive, and putting words in my mouth. Instead of taking what someone ACTUALLY says as what they ACTUALLY think, you have gone and created an alternate reality where everyone is out to get Tom and his homo/transsexual friends. Dude, I don't imply things... I will put them simply, so you understand it to be an insult...IF, I mean it to be an insult.
I actually made a point to say as long as you don't hurt anyone and no one is underage, what you do behind closed doors is your business. That applies to heterosexuals too. But more importantly, I said that to remove those things form the conversation. You put them back in and now act like some kind of victim. I didn't recite 1 Corinthians 6:9 and shove it in your face either. From a Christian perspective, there is no difference between sins. IMO, we are all sinners and must continue to ask for forgiveness. If you must know, there is no difference between having homosexual sex, sex with animals, or sex with someone else's wife. But, I digress.
As to words, you are going to have to grow thicker skin. P/C is out of control. I don't sit here and cry every time you insult Christians and take their beliefs way out of context (which you do frequently). I don't whine when you make up things about what people say (which you just did with me). Everyone is not going to agree with you and you are going to have to get over it. You have this view that what Tom says about sexuality is right and if anyone disagrees, they are a vile, hateful person...just like the other Christians (of course if you agree with homosexuality, then you are not a vile Christian -- but then again, that would not be following the teachings of Christ).
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DMV tells 2 trans to remove make up for license photo
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