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(06-29-2014 01:14 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  I don't think you understand how college football works.

By your logic, coach Stock at MT would be gone four years ago. He constantly recruits high-quality JUCO players to step up for roles we need. And he's been here for a long time now.

Excellent point. I believe that whether talking about a head coaching position, or running a successful ccompany, those who can recognize their weaknesses and "recruit" the talent at the right time to fill the void are the ones who are going to be successful.

If you hand the job over to guy, give him the time and room he needs to prove himself. If he can't turn it around, then go to Plan B.
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(06-29-2014 09:18 AM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(06-29-2014 08:03 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  You have to understand, this guy thought the last play of the game called by Elllllllllllloss against Louisville two years ago in a monsoon was a great one. That is all you have to know about him.

Again with that sh*t? I don't remember you ever proposing an alternative, other than saying that we should have run a conventional QB passing play.

Do you have any idea how many passes our QBs completed that night? I looked it up. Two. And yet you somehow think that it made sense to have Ricky Lloyd drop back into the pocket like Dan Marino, calmly survey our elite receiving corps, and go for completion #3... on fourth down... with the game on the line... in a driving rain... against #19 Louisville.

This is what I think: you are a slave to convention. Fourth-and-long with the game on the line means you have your QB attempt a pass, according to what you've seen people smarter than you do hundreds of times. So anyone who does something different will get mocked by you, because you hate anything resembling creativity, and anything that doesn't fit into a neat little box preordained centuries ago by Vince Lombardi or Moses or God knows who.

But there was no way that 0-4 team was beating 5-0 Louisville that night by doing what was expected or conventional. I continue to think that, for once, that staff did an OK coaching job that night. I'm sorry that doesn't fit with your microscopic, black-and-white, by-the-book view of the universe.

I'm glad people like you exist, though. I'm sure you've found some mundane but important job to do, like staring at a light at a nuclear power plant and screaming like a little girl if it turns the wrong color or something. Just try and shut up when the smart people talk.

And shouldn't you be in church right now?

LOL....still pitiful, aren't you....Calling yourself smart is the funniest statement you have made yet. My sides are hurtin', keep it up....03-lmfao
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(06-29-2014 10:14 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  
(06-29-2014 09:06 AM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  That guy was 25 years behind the times in s and c.
Here are some quotes.

to his OL. If you can do a pull up, then your not heavy enough.

When asked by the players why they dont stretch. "The only thing you guys need to stretch is viginas"
WE had over 40 missed days of practice during fall camp from pulled groins and hamstrings.

That's what happens when you hire a guy that then hires "friends" instead of "professionals". The guy Johnson hired was a real estate agent who happened to be a personal trainer and had no experience in SC. What he done in his personal training may have been just fine with those who just needed toned up or stay active. But that crap doesn't fly when you are trying to stay in top condition.
He was a alleged real estate agent. He was actually a blueberry farmer. He did have experience however. he had the same position at USM in the past. IN the way back past when Favre was the qb.

Yes cajun those are actual quotes. My son was a student trainer and heard those and many others just as stupid. His idea of a summer workout program was the have the ol kick soccer balls to one another.

When you combine that with Daddy football which included a false story of why they replaced OC's during the summer you can see why 0-12 happened. One qb actually got suspended for a game for suggesting to the oc that he needed to access to the other half of the play book.

It is quite a difference, I asked my kid during fall camp last year what the new s/c guy was like. What i got was Daddy, hes a badass.
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(06-29-2014 04:22 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  
(06-29-2014 09:18 AM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(06-29-2014 08:03 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  You have to understand, this guy thought the last play of the game called by Elllllllllllloss against Louisville two years ago in a monsoon was a great one. That is all you have to know about him.

Again with that sh*t? I don't remember you ever proposing an alternative, other than saying that we should have run a conventional QB passing play.

Do you have any idea how many passes our QBs completed that night? I looked it up. Two. And yet you somehow think that it made sense to have Ricky Lloyd drop back into the pocket like Dan Marino, calmly survey our elite receiving corps, and go for completion #3... on fourth down... with the game on the line... in a driving rain... against #19 Louisville.

This is what I think: you are a slave to convention. Fourth-and-long with the game on the line means you have your QB attempt a pass, according to what you've seen people smarter than you do hundreds of times. So anyone who does something different will get mocked by you, because you hate anything resembling creativity, and anything that doesn't fit into a neat little box preordained centuries ago by Vince Lombardi or Moses or God knows who.

But there was no way that 0-4 team was beating 5-0 Louisville that night by doing what was expected or conventional. I continue to think that, for once, that staff did an OK coaching job that night. I'm sorry that doesn't fit with your microscopic, black-and-white, by-the-book view of the universe.

I'm glad people like you exist, though. I'm sure you've found some mundane but important job to do, like staring at a light at a nuclear power plant and screaming like a little girl if it turns the wrong color or something. Just try and shut up when the smart people talk.

And shouldn't you be in church right now?

LOL....still pitiful, aren't you....Calling yourself smart is the funniest statement you have made yet. My sides are hurtin', keep it up....03-lmfao

It's been two years and you still haven't shared what you think Steve Buckley should have called on that play. And I have no doubt I'm smarter than you. I'm sure you're some kind of boring-ass tractor salesman or something, and I doubt you could even do that job without constant supervision.
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(06-29-2014 04:34 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  
(06-29-2014 10:14 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  
(06-29-2014 09:06 AM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  That guy was 25 years behind the times in s and c.
Here are some quotes.

to his OL. If you can do a pull up, then your not heavy enough.

When asked by the players why they dont stretch. "The only thing you guys need to stretch is viginas"
WE had over 40 missed days of practice during fall camp from pulled groins and hamstrings.

That's what happens when you hire a guy that then hires "friends" instead of "professionals". The guy Johnson hired was a real estate agent who happened to be a personal trainer and had no experience in SC. What he done in his personal training may have been just fine with those who just needed toned up or stay active. But that crap doesn't fly when you are trying to stay in top condition.
He was a alleged real estate agent. He was actually a blueberry farmer. He did have experience however. he had the same position at USM in the past. IN the way back past when Favre was the qb.

Yes cajun those are actual quotes. My son was a student trainer and heard those and many others just as stupid. His idea of a summer workout program was the have the ol kick soccer balls to one another.

When you combine that with Daddy football which included a false story of why they replaced OC's during the summer you can see why 0-12 happened. One qb actually got suspended for a game for suggesting to the oc that he needed to access to the other half of the play book.

It is quite a difference, I asked my kid during fall camp last year what the new s/c guy was like. What i got was Daddy, hes a badass.

The alleged S & C coach asked the players what that wanted to do rather than coming up with his own plan. His belief was that as long as you benched and squated your max every day, and play soccer once it was cool enough outside that you would be in tip top shape/condition. I've heard from someone who worked with the team that when he got hired that he made the comment "Strength and conditioning hasn't changed in the last 20 plus years he'd been out of the business".

As soon as he got hired I, along with many other USM fans, had an idea that the end was near. It was bad enough that he was fired BEFORE the season was over (I believe there were 1 or 2 games still left to play).
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I'm still trying to figure out what "humperdinks" are. I have a feeling I've done them, but under a different name.
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(06-29-2014 07:06 PM)usm99 Wrote:  
(06-29-2014 04:34 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  
(06-29-2014 10:14 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  
(06-29-2014 09:06 AM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  That guy was 25 years behind the times in s and c.
Here are some quotes.

to his OL. If you can do a pull up, then your not heavy enough.

When asked by the players why they dont stretch. "The only thing you guys need to stretch is viginas"
WE had over 40 missed days of practice during fall camp from pulled groins and hamstrings.

That's what happens when you hire a guy that then hires "friends" instead of "professionals". The guy Johnson hired was a real estate agent who happened to be a personal trainer and had no experience in SC. What he done in his personal training may have been just fine with those who just needed toned up or stay active. But that crap doesn't fly when you are trying to stay in top condition.
He was a alleged real estate agent. He was actually a blueberry farmer. He did have experience however. he had the same position at USM in the past. IN the way back past when Favre was the qb.

Yes cajun those are actual quotes. My son was a student trainer and heard those and many others just as stupid. His idea of a summer workout program was the have the ol kick soccer balls to one another.

When you combine that with Daddy football which included a false story of why they replaced OC's during the summer you can see why 0-12 happened. One qb actually got suspended for a game for suggesting to the oc that he needed to access to the other half of the play book.

It is quite a difference, I asked my kid during fall camp last year what the new s/c guy was like. What i got was Daddy, hes a badass.

The alleged S & C coach asked the players what that wanted to do rather than coming up with his own plan. His belief was that as long as you benched and squated your max every day, and play soccer once it was cool enough outside that you would be in tip top shape/condition. I've heard from someone who worked with the team that when he got hired that he made the comment "Strength and conditioning hasn't changed in the last 20 plus years he'd been out of the business".

As soon as he got hired I, along with many other USM fans, had an idea that the end was near. It was bad enough that he was fired BEFORE the season was over (I believe there were 1 or 2 games still left to play).
I knew before the hire what would happen. Someone close to Buckley came on the rival board and posted that buckley had told the petal super he would only leave petal if ellis or one or two other guys got our job.
I knew right then that daddy football was on the way. But i thought they would be able to coast to 4 or 5 wins on what we had coming back.

I never dreamed we would totally scrap the offense AFTER spring. Take the petal hs playbook and put a new cover off just to keep one person from leaving for baseball.
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(06-29-2014 07:06 PM)usm99 Wrote:  His belief was that as long as you benched and squated your max every day, and play soccer once it was cool enough outside that you would be in tip top shape/condition.

Having played soccer, I (to my great shame today) defended the soccer conditioning. If any of you have played or even watched real soccer, you know those guys can run for 45 minutes straight and are ridiculously conditioned. Whatever they were doing with a soccer ball was not what soccer players do for conditioning though, as most of our 2012 football team wouldn't have survived one of my high school soccer practices mid way through the season 03-razz
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(06-29-2014 10:00 PM)Luckyshot Wrote:  
(06-29-2014 07:06 PM)usm99 Wrote:  His belief was that as long as you benched and squated your max every day, and play soccer once it was cool enough outside that you would be in tip top shape/condition.

Having played soccer, I (to my great shame today) defended the soccer conditioning. If any of you have played or even watched real soccer, you know those guys can run for 45 minutes straight and are ridiculously conditioned. Whatever they were doing with a soccer ball was not what soccer players do for conditioning though, as most of our 2012 football team wouldn't have survived one of my high school soccer practices mid way through the season 03-razz

To clarify I agree soccer is good conditioning when done correctly but not the way he was overseeing it. It was "played" where maybe 4-6 players were going hard while the other 16 "players on the field" just stood there and talked/laughed about what they were doing. The players did very little in the heat which contributed to players going down and wearing out quickly once fall camp started.
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(06-28-2014 12:03 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  I'm just wondering what people think of the fact that he's signing Juco players and cast-offs at a rapid pace but has basically zero freshman talent coming in. The dude clearly wants to win big in 2015 and then get out.

I'm not sure how to feel about that... I'll say what I said about Fedora: if we let him slip away without elevating the program in some meaningful way, then we blew it. That said, it's difficult for me to imagine what form that would take (better conference? better facilities... in two years?).

It's almost like the wins don't need to come yet... at least, not the big ones. It's speculation, but I can see our next couple of teams being pretty good- easily good enough to get Todd Monken his ticket out. And I'm just very unsure about that... two more years of wear-and-tear on Reed Green, two more years of low interest and crap schedules, topped off with a 7-8 win season in football. It doesn't really accomplish much.

I hope (though I'm not optimistic) that Bill McGillis and Dr. Bennett have thought about these things. If simply winning football games mattered, we wouldn't be playing Sun Belt teams in buzzard puke yellow uniforms on Univision Deportes Jueves.

There's a fine line between wanting to build a program and NOT getting fired. He's recruiting JUCO's and "cast-offs" because the "TALENT" that was left after the EJ debacle was/is atrocious, therefor he needs guys who can PLAY right away.

That being said....we had like a GORILLION freshman players play LAST year so many of them will be true-sophomores this year.....so I don't agree with you when you say he's just trying to win big then leave. He's trying to WIN for obvious reasons. And IF he win's big in 2015 then leaves then it's up to US not to hire a horrible coach (like we did when we hired Elloss Johnson).........had we did our homework and due-diligence when interviewing we wouldn't of hired a 90 year old dinosaur of a head coach......those who are responsible for that hiring have been sacked.
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(06-29-2014 06:18 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(06-29-2014 04:22 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  
(06-29-2014 09:18 AM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(06-29-2014 08:03 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  You have to understand, this guy thought the last play of the game called by Elllllllllllloss against Louisville two years ago in a monsoon was a great one. That is all you have to know about him.

Again with that sh*t? I don't remember you ever proposing an alternative, other than saying that we should have run a conventional QB passing play.

Do you have any idea how many passes our QBs completed that night? I looked it up. Two. And yet you somehow think that it made sense to have Ricky Lloyd drop back into the pocket like Dan Marino, calmly survey our elite receiving corps, and go for completion #3... on fourth down... with the game on the line... in a driving rain... against #19 Louisville.

This is what I think: you are a slave to convention. Fourth-and-long with the game on the line means you have your QB attempt a pass, according to what you've seen people smarter than you do hundreds of times. So anyone who does something different will get mocked by you, because you hate anything resembling creativity, and anything that doesn't fit into a neat little box preordained centuries ago by Vince Lombardi or Moses or God knows who.

But there was no way that 0-4 team was beating 5-0 Louisville that night by doing what was expected or conventional. I continue to think that, for once, that staff did an OK coaching job that night. I'm sorry that doesn't fit with your microscopic, black-and-white, by-the-book view of the universe.

I'm glad people like you exist, though. I'm sure you've found some mundane but important job to do, like staring at a light at a nuclear power plant and screaming like a little girl if it turns the wrong color or something. Just try and shut up when the smart people talk.

And shouldn't you be in church right now?

LOL....still pitiful, aren't you....Calling yourself smart is the funniest statement you have made yet. My sides are hurtin', keep it up....03-lmfao

It's been two years and you still haven't shared what you think Steve Buckley should have called on that play. And I have no doubt I'm smarter than you. I'm sure you're some kind of boring-ass tractor salesman or something, and I doubt you could even do that job without constant supervision.

03-lmfao...keep it up...very funny. He could have called a quarterback sneak and had and better chance of that play working.
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(06-30-2014 10:21 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  
(06-29-2014 06:18 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(06-29-2014 04:22 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  
(06-29-2014 09:18 AM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(06-29-2014 08:03 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  You have to understand, this guy thought the last play of the game called by Elllllllllllloss against Louisville two years ago in a monsoon was a great one. That is all you have to know about him.

Again with that sh*t? I don't remember you ever proposing an alternative, other than saying that we should have run a conventional QB passing play.

Do you have any idea how many passes our QBs completed that night? I looked it up. Two. And yet you somehow think that it made sense to have Ricky Lloyd drop back into the pocket like Dan Marino, calmly survey our elite receiving corps, and go for completion #3... on fourth down... with the game on the line... in a driving rain... against #19 Louisville.

This is what I think: you are a slave to convention. Fourth-and-long with the game on the line means you have your QB attempt a pass, according to what you've seen people smarter than you do hundreds of times. So anyone who does something different will get mocked by you, because you hate anything resembling creativity, and anything that doesn't fit into a neat little box preordained centuries ago by Vince Lombardi or Moses or God knows who.

But there was no way that 0-4 team was beating 5-0 Louisville that night by doing what was expected or conventional. I continue to think that, for once, that staff did an OK coaching job that night. I'm sorry that doesn't fit with your microscopic, black-and-white, by-the-book view of the universe.

I'm glad people like you exist, though. I'm sure you've found some mundane but important job to do, like staring at a light at a nuclear power plant and screaming like a little girl if it turns the wrong color or something. Just try and shut up when the smart people talk.

And shouldn't you be in church right now?

LOL....still pitiful, aren't you....Calling yourself smart is the funniest statement you have made yet. My sides are hurtin', keep it up....03-lmfao

It's been two years and you still haven't shared what you think Steve Buckley should have called on that play. And I have no doubt I'm smarter than you. I'm sure you're some kind of boring-ass tractor salesman or something, and I doubt you could even do that job without constant supervision.

03-lmfao...keep it up...very funny. He could have called a quarterback sneak and had and better chance of that play working.

A "QB sneak" is designed to gain less than a yard. I think you mean a QB draw, but even that would have been stupid, because Buckley literally ran that play 6-8 times per game and everyone would have seen it coming.

The more we talk about this the stupider you look. Believe me, if anyone thought you were right they wouldn't hesitate to back you up. People here don't hesitate to call me stupid.
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(06-30-2014 10:38 AM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(06-30-2014 10:21 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  
(06-29-2014 06:18 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(06-29-2014 04:22 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  
(06-29-2014 09:18 AM)AndreWhere Wrote:  Again with that sh*t? I don't remember you ever proposing an alternative, other than saying that we should have run a conventional QB passing play.

Do you have any idea how many passes our QBs completed that night? I looked it up. Two. And yet you somehow think that it made sense to have Ricky Lloyd drop back into the pocket like Dan Marino, calmly survey our elite receiving corps, and go for completion #3... on fourth down... with the game on the line... in a driving rain... against #19 Louisville.

This is what I think: you are a slave to convention. Fourth-and-long with the game on the line means you have your QB attempt a pass, according to what you've seen people smarter than you do hundreds of times. So anyone who does something different will get mocked by you, because you hate anything resembling creativity, and anything that doesn't fit into a neat little box preordained centuries ago by Vince Lombardi or Moses or God knows who.

But there was no way that 0-4 team was beating 5-0 Louisville that night by doing what was expected or conventional. I continue to think that, for once, that staff did an OK coaching job that night. I'm sorry that doesn't fit with your microscopic, black-and-white, by-the-book view of the universe.

I'm glad people like you exist, though. I'm sure you've found some mundane but important job to do, like staring at a light at a nuclear power plant and screaming like a little girl if it turns the wrong color or something. Just try and shut up when the smart people talk.

And shouldn't you be in church right now?

LOL....still pitiful, aren't you....Calling yourself smart is the funniest statement you have made yet. My sides are hurtin', keep it up....03-lmfao

It's been two years and you still haven't shared what you think Steve Buckley should have called on that play. And I have no doubt I'm smarter than you. I'm sure you're some kind of boring-ass tractor salesman or something, and I doubt you could even do that job without constant supervision.

03-lmfao...keep it up...very funny. He could have called a quarterback sneak and had and better chance of that play working.

A "QB sneak" is designed to gain less than a yard. I think you mean a QB draw, but even that would have been stupid, because Buckley literally ran that play 6-8 times per game and everyone would have seen it coming.

The more we talk about this the stupider you look. Believe me, if anyone thought you were right they wouldn't hesitate to back you up. People here don't hesitate to call me stupid.

Lol.. I have never seen a more ignorant poster on this board than you. What is embarrassing about it is that you claim to be a USM fan. Keep up the posting, many on here are busting at the side reading your ignorance....03-lmfao
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(06-30-2014 11:04 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  
(06-30-2014 10:38 AM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(06-30-2014 10:21 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  
(06-29-2014 06:18 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(06-29-2014 04:22 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  LOL....still pitiful, aren't you....Calling yourself smart is the funniest statement you have made yet. My sides are hurtin', keep it up....03-lmfao

It's been two years and you still haven't shared what you think Steve Buckley should have called on that play. And I have no doubt I'm smarter than you. I'm sure you're some kind of boring-ass tractor salesman or something, and I doubt you could even do that job without constant supervision.

03-lmfao...keep it up...very funny. He could have called a quarterback sneak and had and better chance of that play working.

A "QB sneak" is designed to gain less than a yard. I think you mean a QB draw, but even that would have been stupid, because Buckley literally ran that play 6-8 times per game and everyone would have seen it coming.

The more we talk about this the stupider you look. Believe me, if anyone thought you were right they wouldn't hesitate to back you up. People here don't hesitate to call me stupid.

Lol.. I have never seen a more ignorant poster on this board than you. What is embarrassing about it is that you claim to be a USM fan. Keep up the posting, many on here are busting at the side reading your ignorance....03-lmfao

All righty there, Nastybunch. It's really too bad Steve Buckley didn't come up with your QB-sneak-on-4th-and-11 idea. That is quite the plan there... were you planning to have Ricky Lloyd try for the 11, or were you thinking maybe we could sub in the Easter Bunny or maybe Willie Wonka?
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(06-30-2014 12:42 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(06-30-2014 11:04 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  
(06-30-2014 10:38 AM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(06-30-2014 10:21 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  
(06-29-2014 06:18 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  It's been two years and you still haven't shared what you think Steve Buckley should have called on that play. And I have no doubt I'm smarter than you. I'm sure you're some kind of boring-ass tractor salesman or something, and I doubt you could even do that job without constant supervision.

03-lmfao...keep it up...very funny. He could have called a quarterback sneak and had and better chance of that play working.

A "QB sneak" is designed to gain less than a yard. I think you mean a QB draw, but even that would have been stupid, because Buckley literally ran that play 6-8 times per game and everyone would have seen it coming.

The more we talk about this the stupider you look. Believe me, if anyone thought you were right they wouldn't hesitate to back you up. People here don't hesitate to call me stupid.

Lol.. I have never seen a more ignorant poster on this board than you. What is embarrassing about it is that you claim to be a USM fan. Keep up the posting, many on here are busting at the side reading your ignorance....03-lmfao

All righty there, Nastybunch. It's really too bad Steve Buckley didn't come up with your QB-sneak-on-4th-and-11 idea. That is quite the plan there... were you planning to have Ricky Lloyd try for the 11, or were you thinking maybe we could sub in the Easter Bunny or maybe Willie Wonka?

That one was very weak... But keep trying...
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Have fun being "the guy who thought Ricky Lloyd could gain 11 yards on a QB sneak" for the next three years, Nastybunch. I can tell you from experience that this is a rhetorical tactic that gets annoying. You've earned it, though. Hope you're having a good day at the gas station.
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(06-30-2014 02:14 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  Have fun being "the guy who thought Ricky Lloyd could gain 11 yards on a QB sneak" for the next three years, Nastybunch. I can tell you from experience that this is a rhetorical tactic that gets annoying. You've earned it, though. Hope you're having a good day at the gas station.

Even weaker... Gotta get much better. Remember folks, this guy is the one who thought trying a halfback pass in a monsoon against the grain to a quarterback was a great play.... I am still laughing at this guy....and at Johnson and Buckley for calling it after a time out no less....lolololol
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(06-28-2014 12:03 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  I'm just wondering what people think of the fact that he's signing Juco players and cast-offs at a rapid pace but has basically zero freshman talent coming in. The dude clearly wants to win big in 2015 and then get out.

I'm not sure how to feel about that... I'll say what I said about Fedora: if we let him slip away without elevating the program in some meaningful way, then we blew it. That said, it's difficult for me to imagine what form that would take (better conference? better facilities... in two years?).

It's almost like the wins don't need to come yet... at least, not the big ones. It's speculation, but I can see our next couple of teams being pretty good- easily good enough to get Todd Monken his ticket out. And I'm just very unsure about that... two more years of wear-and-tear on Reed Green, two more years of low interest and crap schedules, topped off with a 7-8 win season in football. It doesn't really accomplish much.

I hope (though I'm not optimistic) that Bill McGillis and Dr. Bennett have thought about these things. If simply winning football games mattered, we wouldn't be playing Sun Belt teams in buzzard puke yellow uniforms on Univision Deportes Jueves.



Andre I think signing JUCO's is not necessarily a bad thing. Our local community college teams are very good. Also, we get a more developed player as opposed to a raw recruit. To me, USM has always taken this recruiting approach. Fedora was great but he came to USM to leave and this happens for nearly all coaches that at some point they move to another school. Where Johnson failed (among many) was that he didn't build on our program. He just thought the program was on auto pilot or something and didn't care. Monken knows it will take work to build.

He seems to have the right mentality. He has said, "No one is going to help dig us out of this rut" meaning he knows hard work among fans and players is key.

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(06-30-2014 03:17 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  
(06-30-2014 02:14 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  Have fun being "the guy who thought Ricky Lloyd could gain 11 yards on a QB sneak" for the next three years, Nastybunch. I can tell you from experience that this is a rhetorical tactic that gets annoying. You've earned it, though. Hope you're having a good day at the gas station.

Even weaker... Gotta get much better. Remember folks, this guy is the one who thought trying a halfback pass in a monsoon against the grain to a quarterback was a great play.... I am still laughing at this guy....and at Johnson and Buckley for calling it after a time out no less....lolololol

Yeah, your QB sneak idea is much better. I mean, no one would have expected Steve Buckley to call a play designed to gain 6 inches on 4th-and-11. No doubt the Louisville defense would have just stood there in shock while Ricky Lloyd motored forward, straight into the end zone. He probably would have just kept running right into the locker room, Henry Ellard-style, and then returned to his home planet via teleportation.
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