Why?

President Obama and Democrats in Congress were hit by two major reports recently that reinforced what many, if not all of us knew about his economic policies: They are killing jobs.

A Gallup report confirmed what millions of Americans now know about the Obama economy that he and Democrats in Congress still insist is growing stronger. It's simply not true?

The average student is now $33,000 in debt. According to a new study by the Pew Research Center, carrying that kind of debt will have certain predictable effects. It will impede our ability to accumulate wealth, for example. We will also borrow more for other things than people without debt, and naturally we will find our debt level growing, not shrinking, as the years pass.

Social programs are underfunded and we are the ones Obama expects to fund them, even though they will not be solvent when we need them.

Sixty percent of U.S. college graduates cannot find a full-time job in their chosen profession, according to job placement firm Adecco. 53% of us will be living in our parents basement for the foreseeable future.

Getting a degree used to be a stepping stone to limitless career opportunities. Under dem policies it's more of a hiatus from living under our parents' roof.

That's why the voting age needs to be higher.

(06-23-2014 09:08 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  That's why the voting age needs to be higher.

. . . and the requirement that you own property be restored.


yeah, I said it.

(06-23-2014 09:09 AM)EagleX Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 09:08 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  That's why the voting age needs to be higher.

. . . and the requirement that you own property be restored.


yeah, I said it.

Duly noted.

It sounds discriminatory but it would ensure electing much more qualified
politicians if owning property was required.

(06-23-2014 09:22 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  It sounds discriminatory but it would ensure electing much more qualified
politicians if owning property was required.

it would ensure that wards of the state would never overwhelm productive citizens at the polls, and vote themselves more spoils.

that would literally be theft.

According to the board libs here the job market has grown exponentially.

(06-23-2014 09:28 AM)gdunn Wrote:  According to the board libs here the job market has grown exponentially.

Yeah. Feels like a Golden Age, doesn't it.

(06-23-2014 09:27 AM)EagleX Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 09:22 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  It sounds discriminatory but it would ensure electing much more qualified
politicians if owning property was required.

it would ensure that wards of the state would never overwhelm productive citizens at the polls, and vote themselves more spoils.

that would literally be theft.

So the non-wards of the state that don't own any property would be SOL then?

(06-23-2014 09:51 AM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 09:27 AM)EagleX Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 09:22 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  It sounds discriminatory but it would ensure electing much more qualified
politicians if owning property was required.

it would ensure that wards of the state would never overwhelm productive citizens at the polls, and vote themselves more spoils.

that would literally be theft.

So the non-wards of the state that don't own any property would be SOL then?

Yes, and since I haven't bought a home yet that would include me as well.

(06-23-2014 09:09 AM)EagleX Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 09:08 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  That's why the voting age needs to be higher.

. . . and the requirement that you own property be restored.


yeah, I said it.

I agree 100% with that. AND have a motherflicking ID.

(06-23-2014 09:53 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 09:09 AM)EagleX Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 09:08 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  That's why the voting age needs to be higher.

. . . and the requirement that you own property be restored.


yeah, I said it.

I agree 100% with that. AND have a motherflicking ID.

I'd like an explanation of your thought process if ya don't mind.

(06-23-2014 09:09 AM)EagleX Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 09:08 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  That's why the voting age needs to be higher.

. . . and the requirement that you own property be restored.

+1


yeah, I said it.

A person that owns property has an obligation to vote towards what is correct and right. We have "skin in the game" so to speak. We contribute not take! We produce!

(06-23-2014 11:21 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  A person that owns property has an obligation to vote towards what is correct and right. We have "skin in the game" so to speak. We contribute not take! We produce!

So everyone that owns property votes correctly and are producers, while people who don't own property vote incorrectly and don't produce. Interesting.

(06-23-2014 11:23 AM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 11:21 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  A person that owns property has an obligation to vote towards what is correct and right. We have "skin in the game" so to speak. We contribute not take! We produce!

So everyone that owns property votes correctly and are producers, while people who don't own property vote incorrectly and don't produce. Interesting.

Not every... but a majority...

(06-23-2014 11:23 AM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 11:21 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  A person that owns property has an obligation to vote towards what is correct and right. We have "skin in the game" so to speak. We contribute not take! We produce!

So everyone that owns property votes correctly and are producers, while people who don't own property vote incorrectly and don't produce. Interesting.

No, they aren't necessarily "producers", but they do have a physical investment in the nation itself. Its being physically invested in property rights that make owners of property more invested in the nation's over-all well-being. That's the theory the Founders used.

Doc K,

Look at government housing and welfare and Medicaid personnel.... then tell me who the producers and who the takers are..

(06-23-2014 11:28 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Doc K,

Look at government housing and welfare and Medicaid personnel.... then tell me who the producers and who the takers are..

I'm a renter, and I have a job, pay for my own health insurance, pay my bills, pay taxes....and I should be penalized by those who don't? Because I don't own property, I'm not looking out for the best interests of the nation?

You guys are insane.

(06-23-2014 09:08 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  That's why the voting age needs to be higher.

So send em to war at 18...but no drinking or voting? Typical conservative...