The latest offer we have is roughly one half of what we make in ticket sales for a season out of St Louis. Kansas City is not giving up without a fight. I expect if its moved a final number to be around 2 million dollars.

Meanwhile the Mayor Jonesboro has asked city leaders to consider offering ASU a financial incentive to keep the game in Jonesboro.

The problem is and remains that most Arkansas cities have no idea how to market football as a tourism venture. Little Rock tried to charge us 750K when we called them about the Missouri game. Most civic leaders just don't understand the amount of money a football game can bring into the community.

Even though Jonesboro is fantastic in terms of visual support for ASU...they don't seem to understand that we fill up their hotels every week and our fans spend money inside the city. ITs sort of like we're expected to host a game, and there is not an understanding that we could always have taken a million dollars from a Missouri or Miami and not played the game in Jonesboro at all.

(06-20-2014 05:38 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  The latest offer we have is roughly one half of what we make in ticket sales for a season out of St Louis. Kansas City is not giving up without a fight. I expect if its moved a final number to be around 2 million dollars.

Meanwhile the Mayor Jonesboro has asked city leaders to consider offering ASU a financial incentive to keep the game in Jonesboro.

The problem is and remains that most Arkansas cities have no idea how to market football as a tourism venture. Little Rock tried to charge us 750K when we called them about the Missouri game. Most civic leaders just don't understand the amount of money a football game can bring into the community.

Even though Jonesboro is fantastic in terms of visual support for ASU...they don't seem to understand that we fill up their hotels every week and our fans spend money inside the city. ITs sort of like we're expected to host a game, and there is not an understanding that we could always have taken a million dollars from a Missouri or Miami and not played the game in Jonesboro at all.

This is what I don't understand...

you already played at their place for nothing..your pay was a return game.

So now if you give your home game away for $2,000,000 isn't that like getting...

1 million for each game? Anytime we play a P5 we get right at a million so that million dollar pay day is there any year.

getting a home and home with a P5 isn't

Honestly in my opinion it says more about where ASU is financially and if you sell a home game with a P5 it looks like you are needing money.

I'll take the St Louis money and put it towards on facilities upgrade anytime and still be at busch stadium to cheer on my red wolves

(06-20-2014 05:48 PM)RamblinRedWolf44 Wrote:  I'll take the St Louis money and put it towards on facilities upgrade anytime and still be at busch stadium to cheer on my red wolves

You can do that any year...

I'm sure Missouri wouldn't have a problem giving ASU a million dollars for a home game without a return. I'm also sure you wouldn't have a problem getting a ticket to sit in their stadium and watch that game.


35k fans @$60 a ticket more than covers the 2 million and probably kicks in another couple hundred thousand when you add in parking and concessions

I have faith Terry is doing and will do what's right for the university. If he opts for St. Louis I trust his decision is the right one same as keeping the game in jonesboogie

(06-20-2014 05:48 PM)RamblinRedWolf44 Wrote:  I'll take the St Louis money and put it towards on facilities upgrade anytime and still be at busch stadium to cheer on my red wolves

I understand the sentiment but with so few P5's willing to come to our stadiums I would never want to move a game like this!

(06-20-2014 05:47 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Honestly in my opinion it says more about where ASU is financially and if you sell a home game with a P5 it looks like you are needing money.

Who doesn't need money?

I think maybe the issue is that we got a crapload of donations which has jumpstarted more facilities improvements faster than were expected and altered both plans and timelines. Sort of guessing that we're trying to make as much hay while the sun shines as we can which makes that money a bit more priority than it was when the game was originally scheduled.

I don't know any real info, but something changed the calculus a bit since then.

(06-20-2014 05:47 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 05:38 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  The latest offer we have is roughly one half of what we make in ticket sales for a season out of St Louis. Kansas City is not giving up without a fight. I expect if its moved a final number to be around 2 million dollars.

Meanwhile the Mayor Jonesboro has asked city leaders to consider offering ASU a financial incentive to keep the game in Jonesboro.

The problem is and remains that most Arkansas cities have no idea how to market football as a tourism venture. Little Rock tried to charge us 750K when we called them about the Missouri game. Most civic leaders just don't understand the amount of money a football game can bring into the community.

Even though Jonesboro is fantastic in terms of visual support for ASU...they don't seem to understand that we fill up their hotels every week and our fans spend money inside the city. ITs sort of like we're expected to host a game, and there is not an understanding that we could always have taken a million dollars from a Missouri or Miami and not played the game in Jonesboro at all.

This is what I don't understand...

you already played at their place for nothing..your pay was a return game.

So now if you give your home game away for $2,000,000 isn't that like getting...

1 million for each game? Anytime we play a P5 we get right at a million so that million dollar pay day is there any year.

getting a home and home with a P5 isn't

Honestly in my opinion it says more about where ASU is financially and if you sell a home game with a P5 it looks like you are needing money.

Im still trying to figure out if Missouri has a buyout clause in the game to begin with.

The good news is we know we wont move the Miami game.

(06-20-2014 10:30 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 05:47 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 05:38 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  The latest offer we have is roughly one half of what we make in ticket sales for a season out of St Louis. Kansas City is not giving up without a fight. I expect if its moved a final number to be around 2 million dollars.

Meanwhile the Mayor Jonesboro has asked city leaders to consider offering ASU a financial incentive to keep the game in Jonesboro.

The problem is and remains that most Arkansas cities have no idea how to market football as a tourism venture. Little Rock tried to charge us 750K when we called them about the Missouri game. Most civic leaders just don't understand the amount of money a football game can bring into the community.

Even though Jonesboro is fantastic in terms of visual support for ASU...they don't seem to understand that we fill up their hotels every week and our fans spend money inside the city. ITs sort of like we're expected to host a game, and there is not an understanding that we could always have taken a million dollars from a Missouri or Miami and not played the game in Jonesboro at all.

This is what I don't understand...

you already played at their place for nothing..your pay was a return game.

So now if you give your home game away for $2,000,000 isn't that like getting...

1 million for each game? Anytime we play a P5 we get right at a million so that million dollar pay day is there any year.

getting a home and home with a P5 isn't

Honestly in my opinion it says more about where ASU is financially and if you sell a home game with a P5 it looks like you are needing money.

Im still trying to figure out if Missouri has a buyout clause in the game to begin with.

The good news is we know we wont move the Miami game.

Mohajir said there is a buyout on the radio this week. I can't remember the $$ though. I'd guess somewhere between the $250K that we got to go there and $600K.

(06-20-2014 10:34 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 10:30 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 05:47 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 05:38 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  The latest offer we have is roughly one half of what we make in ticket sales for a season out of St Louis. Kansas City is not giving up without a fight. I expect if its moved a final number to be around 2 million dollars.

Meanwhile the Mayor Jonesboro has asked city leaders to consider offering ASU a financial incentive to keep the game in Jonesboro.

The problem is and remains that most Arkansas cities have no idea how to market football as a tourism venture. Little Rock tried to charge us 750K when we called them about the Missouri game. Most civic leaders just don't understand the amount of money a football game can bring into the community.

Even though Jonesboro is fantastic in terms of visual support for ASU...they don't seem to understand that we fill up their hotels every week and our fans spend money inside the city. ITs sort of like we're expected to host a game, and there is not an understanding that we could always have taken a million dollars from a Missouri or Miami and not played the game in Jonesboro at all.

This is what I don't understand...

you already played at their place for nothing..your pay was a return game.

So now if you give your home game away for $2,000,000 isn't that like getting...

1 million for each game? Anytime we play a P5 we get right at a million so that million dollar pay day is there any year.

getting a home and home with a P5 isn't

Honestly in my opinion it says more about where ASU is financially and if you sell a home game with a P5 it looks like you are needing money.

Im still trying to figure out if Missouri has a buyout clause in the game to begin with.

The good news is we know we wont move the Miami game.

Mohajir said there is a buyout on the radio this week. I can't remember the $$ though. I'd guess somewhere between the $250K that we got to go there and $600K.

If there is a buyout and Missouri says, move the game to St Louis, or we'll buy it out and you're finding a game on short notice, we might not have a choice.

Miami's buyout is 750K I think.

(06-20-2014 10:40 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 10:34 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 10:30 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 05:47 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 05:38 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  The latest offer we have is roughly one half of what we make in ticket sales for a season out of St Louis. Kansas City is not giving up without a fight. I expect if its moved a final number to be around 2 million dollars.

Meanwhile the Mayor Jonesboro has asked city leaders to consider offering ASU a financial incentive to keep the game in Jonesboro.

The problem is and remains that most Arkansas cities have no idea how to market football as a tourism venture. Little Rock tried to charge us 750K when we called them about the Missouri game. Most civic leaders just don't understand the amount of money a football game can bring into the community.

Even though Jonesboro is fantastic in terms of visual support for ASU...they don't seem to understand that we fill up their hotels every week and our fans spend money inside the city. ITs sort of like we're expected to host a game, and there is not an understanding that we could always have taken a million dollars from a Missouri or Miami and not played the game in Jonesboro at all.

This is what I don't understand...

you already played at their place for nothing..your pay was a return game.

So now if you give your home game away for $2,000,000 isn't that like getting...

1 million for each game? Anytime we play a P5 we get right at a million so that million dollar pay day is there any year.

getting a home and home with a P5 isn't

Honestly in my opinion it says more about where ASU is financially and if you sell a home game with a P5 it looks like you are needing money.

Im still trying to figure out if Missouri has a buyout clause in the game to begin with.

The good news is we know we wont move the Miami game.

Mohajir said there is a buyout on the radio this week. I can't remember the $$ though. I'd guess somewhere between the $250K that we got to go there and $600K.

If there is a buyout and Missouri says, move the game to St Louis, or we'll buy it out and you're finding a game on short notice, we might not have a choice.

Miami's buyout is 750K I think.

Mohajir said he didn't think they'd buy it out, because they are already a game short next year.

(06-20-2014 10:41 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 10:40 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 10:34 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 10:30 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 05:47 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  This is what I don't understand...

you already played at their place for nothing..your pay was a return game.

So now if you give your home game away for $2,000,000 isn't that like getting...

1 million for each game? Anytime we play a P5 we get right at a million so that million dollar pay day is there any year.

getting a home and home with a P5 isn't

Honestly in my opinion it says more about where ASU is financially and if you sell a home game with a P5 it looks like you are needing money.

Im still trying to figure out if Missouri has a buyout clause in the game to begin with.

The good news is we know we wont move the Miami game.

Mohajir said there is a buyout on the radio this week. I can't remember the $$ though. I'd guess somewhere between the $250K that we got to go there and $600K.

If there is a buyout and Missouri says, move the game to St Louis, or we'll buy it out and you're finding a game on short notice, we might not have a choice.

Miami's buyout is 750K I think.

Mohajir said he didn't think they'd buy it out, because they are already a game short next year.

600K buyout of MIzzou home game confirmed - 9:20 min mark, part 1 in this interview:

http://www.953theticket.com/?p=2516

Tough call.

What school not a p5 wouldn't consider 2 million dollar game? Not 1 ....

With asu at 40 million in expansion and enhancements to football facilities going on or planned..take the money and run!

This is program building money not budget money

(06-20-2014 11:12 PM)RustonCAT Wrote:  What school not a p5 wouldn't consider 2 million dollar game? Not 1 ....

With asu at 40 million in expansion and enhancements to football facilities going on or planned..take the money and run!

This is program building money not budget money

If ASU gets paid 2 million you still have to deduct what you would have been paid last year... unless you played last years game for free.

Western has been burnt by buyouts after playing the first game at the opponents home. It;s one thing to have a buyout but that should go way up if you already completed your part of the deal. Honestly I don't know why P5 schools don't do it more often especially with $600,000 buyout. But that is the game we all must play...

it's the P5's world we just play in it ..as long as they let us.

One other thing it's not so bad if we sign to play for a pay check two years in a row...

it just looks different when you sell your home game. I don't buy ..."this is program building money" if you can't afford to build without selling home games against P5 schools...

someone should be fired for putting the plan in action without the funding. Then paying for it with whoring yourself out.

Again 35,000 fans x $60 ticket will bring in 2.4 to 2.6 million once you take in concessions and parking

(06-20-2014 11:26 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 11:12 PM)RustonCAT Wrote:  What school not a p5 wouldn't consider 2 million dollar game? Not 1 ....

With asu at 40 million in expansion and enhancements to football facilities going on or planned..take the money and run!

This is program building money not budget money

If ASU gets paid 2 million you still have to deduct what you would have been paid last year... unless you played last years game for free.

Western has been burnt by buyouts after playing the first game at the opponents home. It;s one thing to have a buyout but that should go way up if you already completed your part of the deal. Honestly I don't know why P5 schools don't do it more often especially with $600,000 buyout. But that is the game we all must play...

it's the P5's world we just play in it ..as long as they let us.

state got paid 250K last year, which is the same amount due to MIzzou if/when they play at Jonesboro.

If they don't pay us 3 million to play in that damn baseball stadium, it will suck.

(06-20-2014 11:26 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 11:12 PM)RustonCAT Wrote:  What school not a p5 wouldn't consider 2 million dollar game? Not 1 ....

With asu at 40 million in expansion and enhancements to football facilities going on or planned..take the money and run!

This is program building money not budget money

If ASU gets paid 2 million you still have to deduct what you would have been paid last year... unless you played last years game for free.

Western has been burnt by buyouts after playing the first game at the opponents home. It;s one thing to have a buyout but that should go way up if you already completed your part of the deal. Honestly I don't know why P5 schools don't do it more often especially with $600,000 buyout. But that is the game we all must play...

it's the P5's world we just play in it ..as long as they let us.

Missouri will play the game that's not really in question...the real question is ASU willing to listen to St. Louis officials wanting to buy the game and host it.

(06-20-2014 11:31 PM)RustonCAT Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 11:26 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 11:12 PM)RustonCAT Wrote:  What school not a p5 wouldn't consider 2 million dollar game? Not 1 ....

With asu at 40 million in expansion and enhancements to football facilities going on or planned..take the money and run!

This is program building money not budget money

If ASU gets paid 2 million you still have to deduct what you would have been paid last year... unless you played last years game for free.

Western has been burnt by buyouts after playing the first game at the opponents home. It;s one thing to have a buyout but that should go way up if you already completed your part of the deal. Honestly I don't know why P5 schools don't do it more often especially with $600,000 buyout. But that is the game we all must play...

it's the P5's world we just play in it ..as long as they let us.

Missouri will play the game that's not really in question...the real question is ASU willing to listen to St. Louis officials wanting to buy the game and host it.

If ASU sells the game I hope at the very least your school gets to control 30% of the tickets (not the money but seating). Then it's not so bad

(06-20-2014 11:26 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 11:12 PM)RustonCAT Wrote:  What school not a p5 wouldn't consider 2 million dollar game? Not 1 ....

With asu at 40 million in expansion and enhancements to football facilities going on or planned..take the money and run!

This is program building money not budget money

If ASU gets paid 2 million you still have to deduct what you would have been paid last year... unless you played last years game for free.

Western has been burnt by buyouts after playing the first game at the opponents home. It;s one thing to have a buyout but that should go way up if you already completed your part of the deal. Honestly I don't know why P5 schools don't do it more often especially with $600,000 buyout. But that is the game we all must play...

it's the P5's world we just play in it ..as long as they let us.

One other thing it's not so bad if we sign to play for a pay check two years in a row...

it just looks different when you sell your home game. I don't buy ..."this is program building money" if you can't afford to build without selling home games against P5 schools...

someone should be fired for putting the plan in action without the funding. Then paying for it with whoring yourself out.

Again 35,000 fans x $60 ticket will bring in 2.4 to 2.6 million once you take in concessions and parking

Arkansas states AD knows what the tipping point is as far as profits and gains. He has led us this far down a very bright path i believe he will make the right decision.

Me personally it would take 3 mill plus ESPN game and it played in the dome in St. Louis not the baseball park

(06-20-2014 11:26 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  it just looks different when you sell your home game. I don't buy ..."this is program building money" if you can't afford to build without selling home games against P5 schools...

someone should be fired for putting the plan in action without the funding. Then paying for it with whoring yourself out.

From what I've heard, the plan was put into action with funding, then unexpected additional funding comes in, and the plan is scaled up, and then more unexpected funding, so it gets scaled up again.

I'm only guessing that the idea was to go ahead and scale up as much as was feasible all at one time to get economies of scale. Perhaps seeing what the Cajuns are doing played into it. And all that may have changed priorities since the game was scheduled.

If you characterize something of that sort as a fire-able offense you can, and if it doesn't work out I might even agree with you. But I'm not sure that a case can't be made for something like that. All speculation though.