(06-18-2014 03:19 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 02:39 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 02:24 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Never understood gay pride. Why are gay people or their leftists pals proud of certain types of sexual
behavior and why does it bother you than many people think that is gross.

So why do conservative posters talk about gay issues so much?

I have never posted a gay thread but it seems that this pride stuff is about forcing others to accept gay behavior, and if you do not accept it you are a bigot and a homophobe. And that is not true. Others have very logical thoughts relative to keeping gay marriage 1 man 1 woman, which is what it has always been. They don't want to open the pandoras box, which is 2 men 1 woman etc. I think it gets posted because gay activists have made it a national issue, it is contemporary right now.

Yeah, if that's not logic, I don't know what is, lol

(06-18-2014 03:20 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 03:19 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 03:12 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I just wish there could be a discussion without insults on it. Neither side of the issue is capable of it though. American society is in full dig-your-heels-in defense mode.

Some people just feel very strongly about political issues. Others take no hard stand one way or the other. I've never understood that mentality to be honest with you. I'd rather be hot or cold on an issue. Lukewarm is pretty weak IMHO.

Statement of the day

Sounds gay...you should start a thread.

(06-18-2014 03:19 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 03:12 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I just wish there could be a discussion without insults on it. Neither side of the issue is capable of it though. American society is in full dig-your-heels-in defense mode.

Some people just feel very strongly about political issues. Others take no hard stand one way or the other. I've never understood that mentality to be honest with you. I'd rather be hot or cold on an issue. Lukewarm is pretty weak IMHO.

Taking one side or the other gives you a 50% chance at being wrong. What's worse is that it makes you a 100% convinced that you're right no matter how wrong it is.

We have an example on this board that is a bonafide exhibit a on the type of stupidity hard conviction on every little thing can bestow upon you.

People are terrified of offending somebody so they don't take a hard stance or they won't voice their opinions. I'm all for compromise or trying to find a common ground when there is such a thing. However, IMO when it comes to religious issues there can not be and should not be any compromise. Try getting a Muslim to eat just a tiny bit of pork if you don't believe me.

(06-18-2014 03:23 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 03:19 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 03:12 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I just wish there could be a discussion without insults on it. Neither side of the issue is capable of it though. American society is in full dig-your-heels-in defense mode.

Some people just feel very strongly about political issues. Others take no hard stand one way or the other. I've never understood that mentality to be honest with you. I'd rather be hot or cold on an issue. Lukewarm is pretty weak IMHO.

Taking one side or the other gives you a 50% chance at being wrong. What's worse is that it makes you a 100% convinced that you're right.

You're either weak or not very confident of your faith in Christ... if you have any. Assuming you're talking about the OP.

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

(06-18-2014 03:24 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 03:23 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 03:19 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 03:12 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I just wish there could be a discussion without insults on it. Neither side of the issue is capable of it though. American society is in full dig-your-heels-in defense mode.

Some people just feel very strongly about political issues. Others take no hard stand one way or the other. I've never understood that mentality to be honest with you. I'd rather be hot or cold on an issue. Lukewarm is pretty weak IMHO.

Taking one side or the other gives you a 50% chance at being wrong. What's worse is that it makes you a 100% convinced that you're right.

You're either weak or not very confident of your faith in Christ... if you have any. Assuming you're talking about the OP.

As for the OP (me) I've been clear that I don't believe in a christian god...or the easter bunny...or santa...or the tooth fairy.

(06-18-2014 03:24 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 03:23 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 03:19 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 03:12 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I just wish there could be a discussion without insults on it. Neither side of the issue is capable of it though. American society is in full dig-your-heels-in defense mode.

Some people just feel very strongly about political issues. Others take no hard stand one way or the other. I've never understood that mentality to be honest with you. I'd rather be hot or cold on an issue. Lukewarm is pretty weak IMHO.

Taking one side or the other gives you a 50% chance at being wrong. What's worse is that it makes you a 100% convinced that you're right.

You're either weak or not very confident of your faith in Christ... if you have any. Assuming you're talking about the OP.

No I was talking about any issue.

Also, what does my faith in Christ have to do with this. Nowhere in the bible does it say that I have to try to force people to live by my standards.

I’m pretty sure the OP believes in the tooth fairy… or a variation of such.

(06-18-2014 03:30 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 03:24 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 03:23 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 03:19 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 03:12 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I just wish there could be a discussion without insults on it. Neither side of the issue is capable of it though. American society is in full dig-your-heels-in defense mode.

Some people just feel very strongly about political issues. Others take no hard stand one way or the other. I've never understood that mentality to be honest with you. I'd rather be hot or cold on an issue. Lukewarm is pretty weak IMHO.

Taking one side or the other gives you a 50% chance at being wrong. What's worse is that it makes you a 100% convinced that you're right.

You're either weak or not very confident of your faith in Christ... if you have any. Assuming you're talking about the OP.

No I was talking about any issue.

Also, what does my faith in Christ have to do with this. Nowhere in the bible does it say that I have to try to force people to live by my standards.

1. You have a strange definition of "force". Not sure where you think we aren't supposed to share our views with the world. Somewhere along the line the meanings of words were redefined I suppose.

Quote:Mark 16:15-16 (King James Version)
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

From Matthew 19
The Great Commission
…18 And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."

2. There are plenty of political issues that are absolutely spiritual issues as well. The Bible is VERY clear on homosexuality and murder. The fact that so-called Christians don't have the spine to take a strong stand on them sickens me TBH.

(06-18-2014 03:32 PM)AngryAphid Wrote:  I’m pretty sure the OP believes in the tooth fairy… or a variation of such.

mmmmmmmm.....



[/rollseyes]

(06-18-2014 03:23 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  People are terrified of offending somebody so they don't take a hard stance or they won't voice their opinions. I'm all for compromise or trying to find a common ground when there is such a thing. However, IMO when it comes to religious issues there can not be and should not be any compromise. Try getting a Muslim to eat just a tiny bit of pork if you don't believe me.

That's your opinion of why people don't take a hard stance or won't voice their opinions and that's fine. Again you have a 50% chance of that opinion being wrong, but are probably 100% convinced that you're right. Can't change your opinion and that's ok.

I can't speak for everyone, but I do think that marriage should be between a man and a woman. I also think that I at a certain point, I can't tell them that they can't get married. I also don't think that gays should be able to do things like prosecute or sue for refusal of service (using free speech to bury them is a different issue).

(06-18-2014 03:38 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 03:32 PM)AngryAphid Wrote:  I’m pretty sure the OP believes in the tooth fairy… or a variation of such.

mmmmmmmm.....



[/rollseyes]

I think this is more in line of what he had in mind

(06-18-2014 03:38 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 03:30 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 03:24 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 03:23 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 03:19 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Some people just feel very strongly about political issues. Others take no hard stand one way or the other. I've never understood that mentality to be honest with you. I'd rather be hot or cold on an issue. Lukewarm is pretty weak IMHO.

Taking one side or the other gives you a 50% chance at being wrong. What's worse is that it makes you a 100% convinced that you're right.

You're either weak or not very confident of your faith in Christ... if you have any. Assuming you're talking about the OP.

No I was talking about any issue.

Also, what does my faith in Christ have to do with this. Nowhere in the bible does it say that I have to try to force people to live by my standards.

1. You have a strange definition of "force". Not sure where you think we aren't supposed to share our views with the world. Somewhere along the line the meanings of words were redefined I suppose.

Quote:Mark 16:15-16 (King James Version)
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

From Matthew 19
The Great Commission
…18 And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."

2. There are plenty of political issues that are absolutely spiritual issues as well. The Bible is VERY clear on homosexuality and murder. The fact that so-called Christians don't have the spine to take a strong stand on them sickens me TBH.

So you're calling me a "so-called Christian"? You don't even know me and you're trying to judge something that's between me and God.

(06-18-2014 03:41 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 03:38 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 03:32 PM)AngryAphid Wrote:  I’m pretty sure the OP believes in the tooth fairy… or a variation of such.

mmmmmmmm.....



[/rollseyes]

I think this is more in line of what he had in mind

Why do you look up photo's like that?

(06-18-2014 03:48 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 03:38 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 03:30 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 03:24 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 03:23 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Taking one side or the other gives you a 50% chance at being wrong. What's worse is that it makes you a 100% convinced that you're right.

You're either weak or not very confident of your faith in Christ... if you have any. Assuming you're talking about the OP.

No I was talking about any issue.

Also, what does my faith in Christ have to do with this. Nowhere in the bible does it say that I have to try to force people to live by my standards.

1. You have a strange definition of "force". Not sure where you think we aren't supposed to share our views with the world. Somewhere along the line the meanings of words were redefined I suppose.

Quote:Mark 16:15-16 (King James Version)
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

From Matthew 19
The Great Commission
…18 And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."

2. There are plenty of political issues that are absolutely spiritual issues as well. The Bible is VERY clear on homosexuality and murder. The fact that so-called Christians don't have the spine to take a strong stand on them sickens me TBH.

So you're calling me a "so-called Christian"? You don't even know me and you're trying to judge something that's between me and God.

Speaking in general terms more than anything. We have a lot of so-called Christians that don't have a spine. They've allowed a lot of the problems to come about by not fighting back and taking a stand.

Is there something in the Bible that isn't clear to you about gays and murdering children? I'm not sure how much more clear it can be to be honest. C

(06-18-2014 03:53 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 03:48 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 03:38 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 03:30 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 03:24 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  You're either weak or not very confident of your faith in Christ... if you have any. Assuming you're talking about the OP.

No I was talking about any issue.

Also, what does my faith in Christ have to do with this. Nowhere in the bible does it say that I have to try to force people to live by my standards.

1. You have a strange definition of "force". Not sure where you think we aren't supposed to share our views with the world. Somewhere along the line the meanings of words were redefined I suppose.

Quote:Mark 16:15-16 (King James Version)
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

From Matthew 19
The Great Commission
…18 And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."

2. There are plenty of political issues that are absolutely spiritual issues as well. The Bible is VERY clear on homosexuality and murder. The fact that so-called Christians don't have the spine to take a strong stand on them sickens me TBH.

So you're calling me a "so-called Christian"? You don't even know me and you're trying to judge something that's between me and God.

Speaking in general terms more than anything. We have a lot of so-called Christians that don't have a spine. They've allowed a lot of the problems to come about by not fighting back and taking a stand.

Is there something in the Bible that isn't clear to you about gays and murdering children? I'm not sure how much more clear it can be to be honest. C

Again, I can't change your opinion.

So the Bible's teaching on homosexuality is opinion now?

(06-18-2014 03:57 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  So the Bible's teaching on homosexuality is opinion now?

Yes. Only if you don't agree with the parts that tell you it's wrong. Isn't that what the Pope said about the Bible a while back. That only a bit of it is true. Yep, only the parts that don't contradict their Cathechism.

(06-18-2014 03:57 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  So the Bible's teaching on homosexuality is opinion now?

No your opinion that either I take the exact same stance as you, at an equally strong level or more or I'm less of a Christian.

I can't change that.

(06-18-2014 04:05 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 03:57 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  So the Bible's teaching on homosexuality is opinion now?

No your opinion that either I take the exact same stance as you or I'm a weak-willed so-called Christian.

My stance is in line with the Bible. I'll just leave it at that.