(06-17-2014 05:54 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 05:37 PM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 08:18 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Fraud: Local NBC Investigation Discovers Dozens of Illegal Voters in Florida

So out of tens of millions illegals you found "dozens" of illegal voters. Multiply that by 50 states and you may get a few hundred nationally.

you cannot be serious.

Yes I am. Any voter fraud should be taken seriously. However, there are far more people currently residing in cemeteries voting than illegal aliens. That's the point I'm trying to make.

(06-17-2014 06:03 PM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 05:54 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 05:37 PM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 08:18 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Fraud: Local NBC Investigation Discovers Dozens of Illegal Voters in Florida

So out of tens of millions illegals you found "dozens" of illegal voters. Multiply that by 50 states and you may get a few hundred nationally.

you cannot be serious.

Yes I am. Any voter fraud should be taken seriously. However, there are far more people currently residing in cemeteries voting than illegal aliens. That's the point I'm trying to make.

And the same controls are needed to prevent and detect both.

(06-17-2014 06:03 PM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 05:54 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 05:37 PM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 08:18 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Fraud: Local NBC Investigation Discovers Dozens of Illegal Voters in Florida

So out of tens of millions illegals you found "dozens" of illegal voters. Multiply that by 50 states and you may get a few hundred nationally.

you cannot be serious.

Yes I am. Any voter fraud should be taken seriously. However, there are far more people currently residing in cemeteries voting than illegal aliens. That's the point I'm trying to make.

Like I said, this fraud is only found through right wing, grass root investigations. Private investigations. No one else is looking. The left wing media, mainstream media, that loves the prospect of growing the democratic party will cover this up to the end of time.

You can find countless stories about this all over the net. The problem is much bigger than you think.

(06-17-2014 06:11 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 06:03 PM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 05:54 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 05:37 PM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 08:18 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Fraud: Local NBC Investigation Discovers Dozens of Illegal Voters in Florida

So out of tens of millions illegals you found "dozens" of illegal voters. Multiply that by 50 states and you may get a few hundred nationally.

you cannot be serious.

Yes I am. Any voter fraud should be taken seriously. However, there are far more people currently residing in cemeteries voting than illegal aliens. That's the point I'm trying to make.

Like I said, this fraud is only found through right wing, grass root investigations. Private investigations. No one else is looking. The left wing media, mainstream media, that loves the prospect of growing the democratic party will cover this up to the end of time.

You can find countless stories about this all over the net. The problem is much bigger than you think.

Voter fraud cuts along both parties. If you think that republican hands are clean of voter fraud then I have some ocean front property in Arizon' to sell you.

(06-17-2014 06:20 PM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 06:11 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 06:03 PM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 05:54 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 05:37 PM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  So out of tens of millions illegals you found "dozens" of illegal voters. Multiply that by 50 states and you may get a few hundred nationally.

you cannot be serious.

Yes I am. Any voter fraud should be taken seriously. However, there are far more people currently residing in cemeteries voting than illegal aliens. That's the point I'm trying to make.

Like I said, this fraud is only found through right wing, grass root investigations. Private investigations. No one else is looking. The left wing media, mainstream media, that loves the prospect of growing the democratic party will cover this up to the end of time.
You can find countless stories about this all over the net. The problem is much bigger than you think.

Voter fraud cuts along both parties. If you think that republican hands are clean of voter fraud then I have some ocean front property in Arizon' to sell you.

Absolutely.
As long as we have no adequate way to detect fraud, it will continue.

(06-17-2014 06:20 PM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 06:11 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 06:03 PM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 05:54 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 05:37 PM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  So out of tens of millions illegals you found "dozens" of illegal voters. Multiply that by 50 states and you may get a few hundred nationally.

you cannot be serious.

Yes I am. Any voter fraud should be taken seriously. However, there are far more people currently residing in cemeteries voting than illegal aliens. That's the point I'm trying to make.

Like I said, this fraud is only found through right wing, grass root investigations. Private investigations. No one else is looking. The left wing media, mainstream media, that loves the prospect of growing the democratic party will cover this up to the end of time.

You can find countless stories about this all over the net. The problem is much bigger than you think.

Voter fraud cuts along both parties. If you think that republican hands are clean of voter fraud then I have some ocean front property in Arizon' to sell you.

Democratic groups are not targeting illegal aliens to vote for the GOP and the GOP isn't targeting illegal aliens to vote.

(06-17-2014 06:03 PM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 05:54 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 05:37 PM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 08:18 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Fraud: Local NBC Investigation Discovers Dozens of Illegal Voters in Florida

So out of tens of millions illegals you found "dozens" of illegal voters. Multiply that by 50 states and you may get a few hundred nationally.

you cannot be serious.

Yes I am. Any voter fraud should be taken seriously. However, there are far more people currently residing in cemeteries voting than illegal aliens. That's the point I'm trying to make.

I know a few illegals too, I want you to tell us how you know that they are not registered and how you know they don't vote. Or are you taking the word of a lawbreaker. Breaking immigration law is an act of moral turpitude, so they must be trustworthy. You wanna close on that beachfront property in Az. I'm selling ya?

(06-17-2014 06:11 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 06:03 PM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 05:54 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 05:37 PM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 08:18 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Fraud: Local NBC Investigation Discovers Dozens of Illegal Voters in Florida

So out of tens of millions illegals you found "dozens" of illegal voters. Multiply that by 50 states and you may get a few hundred nationally.

you cannot be serious.

Yes I am. Any voter fraud should be taken seriously. However, there are far more people currently residing in cemeteries voting than illegal aliens. That's the point I'm trying to make.

And the same controls are needed to prevent and detect both.

You guys want to disenfranchise dead people? You know they can't get to a government office to get a state ID, how are the supposed to vote? This is a terrible injustice.

(06-17-2014 06:51 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 06:03 PM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 05:54 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 05:37 PM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 08:18 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Fraud: Local NBC Investigation Discovers Dozens of Illegal Voters in Florida

So out of tens of millions illegals you found "dozens" of illegal voters. Multiply that by 50 states and you may get a few hundred nationally.

you cannot be serious.

Yes I am. Any voter fraud should be taken seriously. However, there are far more people currently residing in cemeteries voting than illegal aliens. That's the point I'm trying to make.

I know a few illegals too, I want you to tell us how you know that they are not registered and how you know they don't vote. Or are you taking the word of a lawbreaker. Breaking immigration law is an act of moral turpitude, so they must be trustworthy. You wanna close on that beachfront property in Az. I'm selling ya?

Breaking immigration law is an act of moral turpitude? Are you serious? Half the people in this board (including some of the most conservative people here) have stated that, if they were in the same situation they would do the exact same thing. How is that immoral. You may call it criminal, you can rightfully complain of illegals taking advantage of some public services such as free schools, but someone coming here seeking a better life for his/her family is most definitely not immoral.
As far as how I know they aren't registered. Well, we help out two families fill out the paperwork for when their kids need to get registered for school, when they bought their house (trailer park, but whatever) we helped them understand what they were signing. We would never, ever help them out to fill out voter registration cards.

(06-17-2014 12:40 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  If you were a parent in a Latin American country, you would do anything to save your children from the conditions these people live in.

Sure...and I'd be willing to suffer any penalty assessed to me for bringing them here in order to let them stay. I'd also demand they learn to speak English in order to assimilate into the melting pot that is America. Unfortunately....this is not what is happening.

(06-17-2014 08:58 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 12:40 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  If you were a parent in a Latin American country, you would do anything to save your children from the conditions these people live in.

Sure...and I'd be willing to suffer any penalty assessed to me for bringing them here in order to let them stay. I'd also demand they learn to speak English in order to assimilate into the melting pot that is America. Unfortunately....this is not what is happening.

This is a complete myth. I don't know who comes up with it. The vast majority and I mean vast majority of kids that go to school here know english. Heck, for most of the kids that I know in this situation the kids know english better than spanish. Sure the first few years they may go to an esl class, but by the time they get to high school most of them talk english without an accent.

We should not be the world's policeman.
Nor should we be the world's kindergarten or safe zone.
Other countries are not going to solve their problems by
their people simply moving to the United States.

Biden was tasked with getting a troop agreement in Iraq.

Biden was to lead the job training effort.

Biden was to oversee the stimulus money.

Biden lead the Gun Violence Task Force.

Are you getting the picture here?

Biden to lead the Middle Class Task Force

Biden to head energy task force

Anyone have any doubt how this turns out?

So Biden probably got a bonus.

(06-17-2014 06:11 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 06:03 PM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 05:54 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 05:37 PM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 08:18 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Fraud: Local NBC Investigation Discovers Dozens of Illegal Voters in Florida

So out of tens of millions illegals you found "dozens" of illegal voters. Multiply that by 50 states and you may get a few hundred nationally.

you cannot be serious.

Yes I am. Any voter fraud should be taken seriously. However, there are far more people currently residing in cemeteries voting than illegal aliens. That's the point I'm trying to make.

And the same controls are needed to prevent and detect both.

Absolutely. Voter fraud, no matter how small, should be stamped out and the hammer brought down whoever is responsible for it.

(06-18-2014 07:21 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  So Biden probably got a bonus.

Yup, he barely leaves the Hamptons anymore. The village idiot is better off in Guatemala. Biden is VP for everyone to be able to point to him and say, I'm glad I'm not that guy.

(06-17-2014 06:24 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 06:20 PM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 06:11 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 06:03 PM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 05:54 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  you cannot be serious.

Yes I am. Any voter fraud should be taken seriously. However, there are far more people currently residing in cemeteries voting than illegal aliens. That's the point I'm trying to make.

Like I said, this fraud is only found through right wing, grass root investigations. Private investigations. No one else is looking. The left wing media, mainstream media, that loves the prospect of growing the democratic party will cover this up to the end of time.

You can find countless stories about this all over the net. The problem is much bigger than you think.

Voter fraud cuts along both parties. If you think that republican hands are clean of voter fraud then I have some ocean front property in Arizon' to sell you.

Democratic groups are not targeting illegal aliens to vote for the GOP and the GOP isn't targeting illegal aliens to vote.

I just don't see a situation where illegal aliens are voting in large enough numbers to make a difference in a small town election, much less at the state and national levels.
If you are talking about getting the hispanic vote. That's the republican's fault for not trying to reach out. Hispanics tend to have some very conservative views on some issues.

(06-18-2014 08:17 AM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 06:24 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 06:20 PM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 06:11 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 06:03 PM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  Yes I am. Any voter fraud should be taken seriously. However, there are far more people currently residing in cemeteries voting than illegal aliens. That's the point I'm trying to make.

Like I said, this fraud is only found through right wing, grass root investigations. Private investigations. No one else is looking. The left wing media, mainstream media, that loves the prospect of growing the democratic party will cover this up to the end of time.

You can find countless stories about this all over the net. The problem is much bigger than you think.

Voter fraud cuts along both parties. If you think that republican hands are clean of voter fraud then I have some ocean front property in Arizon' to sell you.

Democratic groups are not targeting illegal aliens to vote for the GOP and the GOP isn't targeting illegal aliens to vote.

I just don't see a situation where illegal aliens are voting in large enough numbers to make a difference in a small town election, much less at the state and national levels.
If you are talking about getting the hispanic vote. That's the republican's fault for not trying to reach out. Hispanics tend to have some very conservative views on some issues.

Voter fraud is not small and illegal aliens are indeed voting in our election.

Getting the Hispanic vote has nothing to do with the Republicans unless you believe the myth that Hispanics are for open borders? Think about the corruption behind that notion.

"If you want to gain the Hispanic vote, you better reward people who broke the law. Why? Because it's a racial thing. All Hispanics want amnesty for their people."

That's basically calling Hispanics corrupt. Hispanics are not one group

However, Hispanics from South America, Central America and Mexico have centuries-deep ties to leftist governments. It is in their culture to want big government programs. The Democrats understand this and want to flood the country with as many immigrants from these regions as possible. Borders and laws be damned. While we sit here and argue about it, they are doing it. That way this culture can be the majority and the Democrats can rule indefinitely. We will eventually be strangers in our own land. This is already the case in many parts of the country

Now, this is not the case with all Hispanic cultures. Cubans for instance came to the United States to flee the oppression of communism, often vote Republican and tend to lean right.

The Republicans did not do this. This is 100% the work of Democrats.

(06-18-2014 08:17 AM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 06:24 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 06:20 PM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 06:11 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 06:03 PM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  Yes I am. Any voter fraud should be taken seriously. However, there are far more people currently residing in cemeteries voting than illegal aliens. That's the point I'm trying to make.

Like I said, this fraud is only found through right wing, grass root investigations. Private investigations. No one else is looking. The left wing media, mainstream media, that loves the prospect of growing the democratic party will cover this up to the end of time.

You can find countless stories about this all over the net. The problem is much bigger than you think.

Voter fraud cuts along both parties. If you think that republican hands are clean of voter fraud then I have some ocean front property in Arizon' to sell you.

Democratic groups are not targeting illegal aliens to vote for the GOP and the GOP isn't targeting illegal aliens to vote.

I just don't see a situation where illegal aliens are voting in large enough numbers to make a difference in a small town election, much less at the state and national levels.
If you are talking about getting the hispanic vote. That's the republican's fault for not trying to reach out. Hispanics tend to have some very conservative views on some issues.

I'm calling bull sh!t, on that nonsense

(06-18-2014 08:48 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 08:17 AM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 06:24 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 06:20 PM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 06:11 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Like I said, this fraud is only found through right wing, grass root investigations. Private investigations. No one else is looking. The left wing media, mainstream media, that loves the prospect of growing the democratic party will cover this up to the end of time.

You can find countless stories about this all over the net. The problem is much bigger than you think.

Voter fraud cuts along both parties. If you think that republican hands are clean of voter fraud then I have some ocean front property in Arizon' to sell you.

Democratic groups are not targeting illegal aliens to vote for the GOP and the GOP isn't targeting illegal aliens to vote.

I just don't see a situation where illegal aliens are voting in large enough numbers to make a difference in a small town election, much less at the state and national levels.
If you are talking about getting the hispanic vote. That's the republican's fault for not trying to reach out. Hispanics tend to have some very conservative views on some issues.

Voter fraud is not small and illegal aliens are indeed voting in our election.

Getting the Hispanic vote has nothing to do with the Republicans unless you believe the myth that Hispanics are for open borders? Think about the corruption behind that notion.

"If you want to gain the Hispanic vote, you better reward people who broke the law. Why? Because it's a racial thing. All Hispanics want amnesty for their people."

That's basically calling Hispanics corrupt. Hispanics are not one group

However, Hispanics from South America, Central America and Mexico have centuries-deep ties to leftist governments. It is in their culture to want big government programs. The Democrats understand this and want to flood the country with as many immigrants from these regions as possible. Borders and laws be damned. While we sit here and argue about it, they are doing it. That way this culture can be the majority and the Democrats can rule indefinitely. We will eventually be strangers in our own land. This is already the case in many parts of the country

Now, this is not the case with all Hispanic cultures. Cubans for instance came to the United States to flee the oppression of communism, often vote Republican and tend to lean right.

The Republicans did not do this. This is 100% the work of Democrats.

While I may concede that, in this great big nation of ours, a few illegal aliens may have snuck into a voting station, I just refuse to believe that it is in numbers greater than a few hundred nationwide. There are just to many candidates that would be out for blood if there if the tiniest shred of evidence existed that they lost an election because of something like this. What you are alluding to wouldn't be able to stay hidden, not at the numbers that you imagine them to be.

Obviously you have never been south of the border. Big government, as how you think of it, does not exist 20 miles past these countries' capital cities. Absolute truth. On paper their governments sounds big, but the reality is that, for the vast majority of their people, their governments are practically non-existent.

Cubans also get automatic amnesty the second they step on US soil.