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What makes a "power" conference #AmericanRising image...
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RE: What makes a "power" conference #AmericanRising image...
Great job by AAC. At least they are trying to get message out and not going down quietly.
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RE: What makes a "power" conference #AmericanRising image...
$$$$$$$ = Power Conference
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RE: What makes a "power" conference #AmericanRising image...
BAM!!!!!

Cue the usual too-much-time-on-their-hands internet trolls to remind us we're NOT a 'Power' conference in 3... 2... 1...

Hey, what's on that card is MY metric for defining Power. The ancillary things like TV $$ and bowls WILL improve shortly if we keep performing like this... no doubt.
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RE: What makes a "power" conference #AmericanRising image...
It's sad when actual winning on the field doesn't define power but the amount of dollars on some tv contract.
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RE: What makes a "power" conference #AmericanRising image...
(06-12-2014 06:20 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  $$$$$$$ = Power Conference

These messages are catered to the actual fans.
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(06-12-2014 06:27 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  It's sad when actual winning on the field doesn't define power but the amount of dollars on some tv contract.

Winning is what matters to most fans. Only a few on this board actually think recruits/fans have charts on their walls tracking TV $$$ between conferences. Most who enter the stadium don't know the value of the TV contract, and surely isn't their highest priority... and that's as it should be. Fans want to play, and win, and party.

Don't forget, when we negotiated our deal our conference didn't even have a NAME. Better times are coming, be patient y'all...
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What makes a "power" conference #AmericanRising image...
The American needs to do more of this. They are walking a tight rope not to peeve off the hand that may feed you but they have to be vocal


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RE: What makes a "power" conference #AmericanRising image...
Granted, some people only care about the TV revenue, but I care about winning - and this conference has done that! We need to continue to demonstrate our ability to compete and win at the highest level in every sport. Good things - and more revenue - will follow!
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RE: What makes a "power" conference #AmericanRising image...
the AAC has had a HECK of a first year on the field. Our TV revenue in no way shape for form matches our performance....we gotta be the BEST deal ESPN has ever had.
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RE: What makes a "power" conference #AmericanRising image...
(06-12-2014 08:17 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  the AAC has had a HECK of a first year on the field. Our TV revenue in no way shape for form matches our performance....we gotta be the BEST deal ESPN has ever had.

How do our ratings compare to SEC, ACC etc?

That is the million dollar question for ESPN?
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(06-12-2014 06:24 PM)Bull Wrote:  BAM!!!!!

Cue the usual too-much-time-on-their-hands internet trolls to remind us we're NOT a 'Power' conference in 3... 2... 1...

Hey, what's on that card is MY metric for defining Power. The ancillary things like TV $$ and bowls WILL improve shortly if we keep performing like this... no doubt.

How will they "improve shortly"?

ESPN is under no pressure to re-work our contract and the P5 are trying the best to separate. We don't have an access bowl anchor bowl nor do we enjoy a huge TV contract. Plus when our best teams (USF included) would love nothing more than to join a P5 conference....I just don't see a scenario where either ESPN is going to suddenly give us a $20-million per team contract....or Mike Slive and Jim Delany are going to say "welcome to the club Mr. Aresco".

Call me cynical but I am just being realistic. Instead I am going to enjoy each season for the action on the field.... and not worry about the unrealistic notion of somehow attaining power conference status.

4 It's not that we are not deserving....but rather that the system is rigged against those not in a p5 conference. For me it's about watching football...instead of watching twitter for the latest B12 expansion rumor.
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RE: What makes a "power" conference #AmericanRising image...
To answer the question in the title of the thread..........ESPiN and the acolytes on the internets deeming us so will make us a power conference. Also, securing a "contract" bowl will do the trick. The $$$$ that people are gripping about will most assuredly follow all of the above.


Winning has ZERO effect on the AAC becoming a power conference. None.
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RE: What makes a "power" conference #AmericanRising image...
all this does is accept and confirm the label that the other conferences have applied to us and themselves. a sure sign the battle is all but lost. brilliant.
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(06-12-2014 10:36 PM)shere khan Wrote:  all this does is accept and confirm the label that the other conferences have applied to us and themselves. a sure sign the battle is all but lost. brilliant.

Way to constructively contribute to the thread.
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RE: What makes a "power" conference #AmericanRising image...
(06-12-2014 09:56 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  Winning has ZERO effect on the AAC becoming a power conference. None.

Marketability. Relevance.

Those result from winning.

That's what we want because it drives the bu$$.
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(06-12-2014 11:25 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(06-12-2014 09:56 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  Winning has ZERO effect on the AAC becoming a power conference. None.

Marketability. Relevance.

Those result from winning.

That's what we want because it drives the bu$$.

None of that matters. The only thing that will make the AAC a power conference, is for ESPiN and their acolytes to deem us so. Also, securing a contract bowl will help.
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(06-12-2014 11:33 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(06-12-2014 11:25 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(06-12-2014 09:56 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  Winning has ZERO effect on the AAC becoming a power conference. None.

Marketability. Relevance.

Those result from winning.

That's what we want because it drives the bu$$.

None of that matters. The only thing that will make the AAC a power conference, is for ESPiN and their acolytes to deem us so. Also, securing a contract bowl will help.

It's not very likely that a contract bowl is going to come our way. I would like to see us upgrade the payout on the Miami Beach Bowl enough that it is able to attract a quality #3-#5 opponent from a P5 conference. It would be a major step in the right direction if we were able to get the Miami Beach Bowl included in the same bowl pool as the Liberty and Texas bowls. It would be a big deal for the AAC to have one guaranteed quality bowl that we know is a suitable post season destination for our champion.
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RE: What makes a "power" conference #AmericanRising image...
(06-12-2014 10:36 PM)shere khan Wrote:  all this does is accept and confirm the label that the other conferences have applied to us and themselves. a sure sign the battle is all but lost. brilliant.


Who the heck suggested that?

Instead the AAC should try and win everything possible while understanding that it has little impact on our TV contract unless there is a huge change in the power structure of college athletics. Realize that long term survival equates directly to TV dollars, and in case you have not noticed even the crappy ACC out earns us 10 to 1.
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RE: What makes a "power" conference #AmericanRising image...
They just need to dismantle the the BIG 12 and make their 4 16 team power conferences and get it over with. Add UConn the ACC and drop TCU out of the P4. Just moved teams around without looking at a map so not sure if some would work with travel distances.

ACC
Boston College
Clemson
Duke
Florida St
Georgia Tech
Louisville
Miami (FL)
NC State
North Carolina
Pitt
Syracuse
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Wake Forest
West Virginia
Uconn

B1G
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Maryland
Michigan
Michigan St
Minnesota
Nebraska
Northwestern
Ohio St
Penn St
Purdue
Rutgers
Wisconsin
Kansas
Texas


PAC-12
Arizona
Arizona St
California
Colorado
Oregon
Oregon St
Stanford
UCLA
USC
Utah
Washington
Washington St
Iowa St
Kansas St
Oklahoma
Oklahoma St


SEC
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
LSU
Mississippi St
Missouri
Ole Miss
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas A&M
Vanderbilt
Baylor
Texas Tech
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