(06-11-2014 11:36 AM)prp Wrote: Why would the Pac 12 team need to be scheduling 2 P5 OOC games when hardly any of the rest of country is doing it? 1 P5 OOC plus 9 conference games puts them on par or above just about everyone else. There's really no problem. That still leaves two slots for home games against G5 or FCS. Getting to 6 or even 7 home games a season is doable with or without BYU in the mix.
the whole deal with BYU is a "lesser school" is because conferences like the SEC and ACC are TALKING (we will see if they act) about moving to schedule almost exclusively "P5" schools
now again we will see if either of those conferences actually acts on that and how it works for them if he do act on it, but if they do try and act on it and the PAC 12 follows it will create difficulty for the PAC 12 more than other conferences
and the reality is that it is more than likely that the SEC and ACC are full of BS and they either will not be able to or won't like trying to schedule all "P5" schools and all their talk about deciding where BYU stands will just be stupidity and foolishness
but it is not and those conferences and others try and follow through the PAC 12 will have the most difficulty
(06-11-2014 11:18 AM)jrj84105 Wrote: Almost every team in the PAC12 is scheduled to play BYU. There's no problem there.
When did travelling become such a huge obstacle for football teams? The typical non-Cali PAC school will play 9 conference games, 1 FCS school at home, and one California Go5 school for recruiting purposes on a 1:1 schedule. The remaining spot will be another P5 school most years. The 9 game conference schedule and need to maintain exposure in Cali (or Texas) severly limits scheduling BYU on an annual basis for PAC teams. The Cali schools have ND with BYU as the stand in when they are not playing ND.
PS: Utah and Arizona are in the Mountain time zone as is Colorado (although AZ doesn't observe daylight savings from spring to fall- as an Arizonan who has sunrise before 5 AM now, that's Arizona's fault for being retarded). There is a one hour time difference from Utah to Alabama for instance. I don't think Alabama struggles going 1 time zone East to play Georgia and Florida.
and Alabama to Florida is a very short trip timezone or not and I mentioned not just time, but distance as well
travel wears on a team and when you add in long distance travel (the time of travel is real no matter what the clock says) and you add in timezone or timezones to the mix (when what the clock says is different than that your body feels after your body has traveled 4-6+ hours in real time that makes a difference in how you play and how you feel
and I realize how the PAC 12 schedules NOW, but the whole "ranking and placement of BYU" discussion by the SEC and ACC is designed around their TALK about playing only other "P5" schools and BYU not being deemed "worthy" of fitting into that equation
I am personally going to wait and see if the SEC and ACC actually follow through on that (and I have my doubts they will or that it will work for them if they attempt it), but what has set this whole discussion of BYU off again and "BYU needing a conference" is the fact that BYU was deemed "not worthy" of being on the schedules for the SEC and ACC
and if BYU is "not worthy" then surely members of the Sunbelt, MWC, MAC and CUSA are not worthy either because BYU is better than many of them and BYU is better than many of the programs at the lower level of the "P5" conferences
on the MWC forum everyone is talking about how "BYU needs the MWC now" because the SEC and ACC won't play them when the reality is joining back into the MWC does nothing to get the ACC or SEC to schedule BYU (IF they follow through on their TALK) and the reality is BYU can still get pretty much any "G5" program on the schedule and it is my opinion that BYU will still be getting on the schedule of the PAC 12 especially so they don't NEED to join a conference no matter what the SEC and ACC deem them worthy of and in fact they might make the SEC and ACC eat their words
but again all of this BYU talk and BYU looking for conference ect is predicated on the fact that the SEC and ACC have said they do not feel that BYU is worthy of scheduling and while I feel that is just ignorance if other conferences follow through it will make it the most difficult for the PAC 12
because even if the PAC 12 avoids BYU for some reason based on their "not worthy" status from the ACC and SEC and the PAC 12 keeps scheduling other western "G5" schools that still means the PAC 12 is avoiding a nearby school that will often be far stronger than other "G5" schools for no good reason and if the PAC 12 moves towards an all "P5" schedule the actual hours and distance of travel to accomplish that along with timezone issues really works against them the most