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Google discloses its (lack of) diversity
I'm sure Sharpton and Jackson can't get on planes fast enough to get to Google and protest. Of course, neither one of them could qualify for a job there other than janitor.

Quote:SAN FRANCISCO — In a rare glimpse behind the tech curtain, Google has released its diversity figures.

The numbers weren't good, but they were also in line with the few other companies that release such figures.

Eighty-three percent of Google's tech workers internationally are male. For non-tech jobs, the number is 52%. Its leadership is made of up 79% men.

In terms of racial diversity, the company overall is 61% white, 30%, Asian, 3%, Hispanic, and 2%, black.

For tech positions, the numbers are similar — 60% are white, 34%, Asian, 2%, Hispanic, and 1%, black.

In terms of leadership, the company skews more white. Seventy-two percent of its leaders are white, 23%, Asian, 2%, black, and 1%, Hispanic.

Tech companies have long kept information about the makeup of their workforces secret.

A San Jose Mercury News attempt in 2010 to get Silicon Valley's 15 largest companies to disclose the race and gender of their workforces resulted in five companies, Google, Apple, Yahoo, Oracle and Applied Materials, fighting the request on the grounds that it would cause them competitive harm.

A similar attempt two years later by CNN Money had much the same results.

Google decided that being open with its numbers was the first step toward changing them.

Speaking to Gwen Ifill on The PBS NewsHour, Google's vice president of "people operations," Laszlo Bock, said, "We're not where we want to be when it comes to diversity. And it is hard to address these kinds of challenges if you're not prepared to discuss them openly, and with the facts."

The only tech company of Google's size that has freely released its diversity information in the past is Intel. It posts its yearly Equal Employment Opportunity Commission report to the federal government on its website.

For 2013, the chipmaker had a workforce that was 76% male, 57%, white, 29%, Asian, 8%, Hispanic, and 3%, black.

Companies in Silicon Valley have been reluctant to share diversity information, because the numbers aren't that attractive.

Google is working to bring more women and minorities into the company, through better outreach, training of current staff and also encouraging those who historically haven't studied tech subjects to do so.

Women and non-Asian minorities are very underrepresented in technology, in part because of who pursues computer science degrees.

In 2012, 12% of computer science undergraduate degrees at major research universities went to women. In 1985 that number was 37%, according to the National Center for Women & Information Technology.


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Nobody should care
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(05-29-2014 09:34 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Nobody should care

I know I don't.
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They've released it before. Google is a company that recruits from Stanford, Duke, MIT, Carnegie-Mellon, Vandy, etc. Not a lot of black people there and those that are aren't going into tech fields. They shouldn't hire people just because of colour. That would create animosity and make it worse for the few black people already there. The last thing we need is more people thinking that they didn't get a job because they were passed up by a minority (whether it's true or not).

I would like to see more black kids seriously consider the field though.
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OK...forgive me if I've missed it but I'm struggling to find out why this data is useful?

To imply Google or any entity has a diversity problem, one must show that they employ one group of people over another group of people disproportionally when compared to the applicant pool or the available pool of people with the correct qualifications and credentials. This article does not show that. This article leaves much to the imagination, which is probably the intent.

For instance, if I employ 100 people in my business and only 1% of the available qualified and/or credentialed candidates are male but 50 of my employees are men, I have a diversity problem. Just because 50% of the populace are men, that does not mean I should employ 50 men.
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So Google mainly employs white and asian men.

In other breaking news...

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(05-29-2014 10:45 PM)ODUgradstudent Wrote:  So Google mainly employs white and asian men.

In other breaking news...

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So....they don't do it in the woods? 03-lmfao
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(05-29-2014 10:01 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Google is a company that recruits from Stanford, Duke, MIT, Carnegie-Mellon, Vandy, etc. Not a lot of black people there

Bunch of racists of you ask me.
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(05-29-2014 11:11 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  
(05-29-2014 10:01 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Google is a company that recruits from Stanford, Duke, MIT, Carnegie-Mellon, Vandy, etc. Not a lot of black people there

Bunch of racists of you ask me.

Well they have a lot of first gen Asians and Indians, some of the most legitimate bigoted people on the planet. They don't even like each other. Believe me, my wife's family kills it.
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(05-29-2014 11:27 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  
(05-29-2014 11:11 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  
(05-29-2014 10:01 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Google is a company that recruits from Stanford, Duke, MIT, Carnegie-Mellon, Vandy, etc. Not a lot of black people there

Bunch of racists of you ask me.

Well they have a lot of first gen Asians and Indians, some of the most legitimate bigoted people on the planet. They don't even like each other. Believe me, my wife's family kills it.

I've met a lot of Indians at ECU. No comment on racism, but I do know that 99% of them were so smart that they got into UNC & Duke (probably some Ivies too) but chose ECU just because...

Anyway, I kid about institutions being racist.
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(05-29-2014 11:44 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  
(05-29-2014 11:27 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  
(05-29-2014 11:11 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  
(05-29-2014 10:01 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Google is a company that recruits from Stanford, Duke, MIT, Carnegie-Mellon, Vandy, etc. Not a lot of black people there

Bunch of racists of you ask me.

Well they have a lot of first gen Asians and Indians, some of the most legitimate bigoted people on the planet. They don't even like each other. Believe me, my wife's family kills it.

I've met a lot of Indians at ECU. No comment on racism, but I do know that 99% of them were so smart that they got into UNC & Duke (probably some Ivies too) but chose ECU just because...

Anyway, I kid about institutions being racist.

I didn't say racist, I said bigoted (I was also being a bit tongue-in-cheek). It's a cultural thing and they'll cool off with a bit of exposure.
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(05-29-2014 11:54 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  
(05-29-2014 11:44 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  
(05-29-2014 11:27 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  
(05-29-2014 11:11 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  
(05-29-2014 10:01 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Google is a company that recruits from Stanford, Duke, MIT, Carnegie-Mellon, Vandy, etc. Not a lot of black people there

Bunch of racists of you ask me.

Well they have a lot of first gen Asians and Indians, some of the most legitimate bigoted people on the planet. They don't even like each other. Believe me, my wife's family kills it.

I've met a lot of Indians at ECU. No comment on racism, but I do know that 99% of them were so smart that they got into UNC & Duke (probably some Ivies too) but chose ECU just because...

Anyway, I kid about institutions being racist.

I didn't say racist, I said bigoted (I was also being a bit tongue-in-cheek). It's a cultural thing and they'll cool off with a bit of exposure.

Whoops. I guess I've seen the words thrown around so carelessly, so often, and they've started to lose meaning....
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(05-29-2014 10:26 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  OK...forgive me if I've missed it but I'm struggling to find out why this data is useful?

To imply Google or any entity has a diversity problem, one must show that they employ one group of people over another group of people disproportionally when compared to the applicant pool or the available pool of people with the correct qualifications and credentials. This article does not show that. This article leaves much to the imagination, which is probably the intent.

For instance, if I employ 100 people in my business and only 1% of the available qualified and/or credentialed candidates are male but 50 of my employees are men, I have a diversity problem. Just because 50% of the populace are men, that does not mean I should employ 50 men.

It's feel good crap for the liberal multiculturalists. These racists are more concerned with skin color than they are qualification. When people with this kind of immature thinking become significant in a society, that society falls.
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(05-29-2014 09:42 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(05-29-2014 09:34 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Nobody should care

I know I don't.

posted the same subject this morning....thank the both of you....it's tard thinking that accomplishes nothing....however, op has to play the race card.....it's sad
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So I take it Google hires by qualification and not by Affirmative Action. No offense to any other race.

That must be why they try to appease the left with their doodly doodles and shiit.
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(05-30-2014 03:59 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(05-29-2014 09:42 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(05-29-2014 09:34 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Nobody should care

I know I don't.

posted the same subject this morning....thank the both of you....it's tard thinking that accomplishes nothing....however, op has to play the race card.....it's sad

I wouldn't go that far. It's just a jab at those that throw such huge hissy fits over the diversity makeup of a company, but when it comes to the ones that have to run flawless 24/7, they toss AA out of the window.
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(05-29-2014 09:42 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(05-29-2014 09:34 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Nobody should care

I know I don't.

If you were a female of a minority race you would.
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(05-30-2014 04:03 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(05-30-2014 03:59 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(05-29-2014 09:42 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(05-29-2014 09:34 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Nobody should care

I know I don't.

posted the same subject this morning....thank the both of you....it's tard thinking that accomplishes nothing....however, op has to play the race card.....it's sad

I wouldn't go that far. It's just a jab at those that throw such huge hissy fits over the diversity makeup of a company, but when it comes to the ones that have to run flawless 24/7, they toss AA out of the window.

me thinks you missed the point....it's mostly what generates interest in this board....and it's crazy talk from the media and how people respond.....I couldn't care less what the demographic makeup is at google.....it's how people respond sir that makes it easy to be a sadist....
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I'm willing to be that the majority of the people who don't care about diversity are white males.
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(05-30-2014 04:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(05-29-2014 09:42 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(05-29-2014 09:34 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Nobody should care

I know I don't.

If you were a female of a minority race you would.

there's that equality thingy again......jfc.....told ya you do better on the sports board.....
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