Quote:The film depicts how "The Program" started in then-Vice President Dick Cheney's office, in the form of a document authored by David Addington, Cheney's lawyer, and kept in Addington's safe. "To most people who know how things work inside the government, that the vice president's lawyer, who has no statutory authority, [would author] what would become the deepest, darkest secret the American government has" is not only unusual, but unique in the history of U.S. intelligence, said Kirk. Its heritage caused intense and acute legal debate from the beginning.

Quote: President Barack Obama, who repeatedly remarked during his campaign on the importance of governance under the rule of law, did little to rein the NSA in until the Snowden revelations. "More whistle-blowers or leakers have been indicted under this president than all the other presidents put together, and that he would be that kind of president is surprising," Kirk said. Those who supported Obama hoping for change in how the government operates may now be wondering, "who is this guy in terms of what he promised once?" Kirk said.

http://news.yahoo.com/spying-on-millions...52032.html

Obama has done absolutely nothing to rein in the NSA, even since Snowden exposed the PRISM program.

He likes to *talk* about it, but when members of both parties think mass surveillance is okay, nothing will happen.

It started with Bush, and Obama happily continues it.

there are a lot of things that obama likes to talk about but does nothing to solve them.

(05-13-2014 10:25 PM)john01992 Wrote:  there are a lot of things that obama likes to talk about but does nothing to solve them.

Absolutely.

He has an incredible amount of charisma, but the leadership abilities of a gerbil.

(05-13-2014 10:27 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 10:25 PM)john01992 Wrote:  there are a lot of things that obama likes to talk about but does nothing to solve them.

Absolutely.

He has an incredible amount of charisma, but the leadership abilities of a gerbil.

You just got Michael Sam's attention.

(05-13-2014 10:27 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 10:25 PM)john01992 Wrote:  there are a lot of things that obama likes to talk about but does nothing to solve them.

Absolutely.
He has an incredible amount of charisma, but the leadership abilities of a gerbil.

Thank God. If he could actually get anything done, we'd be toast as a country.

(05-13-2014 10:57 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 10:27 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 10:25 PM)john01992 Wrote:  there are a lot of things that obama likes to talk about but does nothing to solve them.

Absolutely.
He has an incredible amount of charisma, but the leadership abilities of a gerbil.

Thank God. If he could actually get anything done, we'd be toast as a country.

I think if he had actually gone through with some of his campaign promises, he would have been much better.

He promised transparency and he has not delivered. At all.

(05-13-2014 11:11 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 10:57 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 10:27 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(05-13-2014 10:25 PM)john01992 Wrote:  there are a lot of things that obama likes to talk about but does nothing to solve them.

Absolutely.
He has an incredible amount of charisma, but the leadership abilities of a gerbil.

Thank God. If he could actually get anything done, we'd be toast as a country.

I think if he had actually gone through with some of his campaign promises, he would have been much better.

He promised transparency and he has not delivered. At all.

The only promise he made in the general -- in fact, the only thing that ever came out of the mans mouth in the general -- was to not be george bush. and he couldn't even do that right.

Yes, we doesn't! we were the changed!

Change for change sake is not necessarily good.