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4 16-team Conferences - Chicago Sun Times
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Delany’s Big Ten moved on well from the Irish setback. Nebraska. Yawn, but a good move for BTN. Maryland and Rutgers. Really? Why? Television.

This is where the college athetics world is going. To head off a players’ union, the schools are insisting athlete-students they are not employees. But concessions are already being made, and college sports will move on just as sure as baseball moved on when it lost the reserve clause.

Stay tuned. Delany’s next move will be adding the 15th and 16th schools to the Big Ten. This will be needed to pay for increased labor costs that will stem from players organizing in one form or another.

Four 16-team leagues. And good luck if you’re not among those 64.
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(05-07-2014 10:45 AM)HoustonRocks Wrote:  http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/...2ly6sf8QdM

Delany’s Big Ten moved on well from the Irish setback. Nebraska. Yawn, but a good move for BTN. Maryland and Rutgers. Really? Why? Television.

This is where the college athetics world is going. To head off a players’ union, the schools are insisting athlete-students they are not employees. But concessions are already being made, and college sports will move on just as sure as baseball moved on when it lost the reserve clause.

Stay tuned. Delany’s next move will be adding the 15th and 16th schools to the Big Ten. This will be needed to pay for increased labor costs that will stem from players organizing in one form or another.

Four 16-team leagues. And good luck if you’re not among those 64.

Aren't there already more than 64 teams in the P5? Could be that some already in will be left out and some more deserving will be included.
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RE: 4 16-team Conferences - Chicago Sun Times
65 in the P5 including Notre Dame and they're never going to be left out.
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Another dire article about how much it sucks not to be in the in-crowd. 07-coffee3
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I'm thinking more along the lines of 6 x 14 team conferences for a total of 84, expansion to 8 team playoff with 6 conference champions and 2 at large.
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RE: 4 16-team Conferences - Chicago Sun Times
If there really is a conference shuffle like the one described you could see programs like Wake Forest being left out in favor of the best of the best of G5 / BYU[/align].
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07-coffee3 Actually look for five (5) 16 team conferences or 80 teams.

Pac 12 will add 4.
Big 12 will add 6
SEC will add 2
Big 10 will add 2
ACC will add 1 and Notre Dame will start playing full time football.

This means 15 teams will move up. My guess is:

1. Connecticut
2. Cincinnati
3. East Carolina
4. Central Florida
5. South Florida
6. Houston
7. SMU
8. Memphis
9. BYU
10. Boise State
11. Fresno State
12. San Diego State
13. Nevada
14. Utah State
15. Colorado State
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(05-07-2014 11:34 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  07-coffee3 Actually look for five (5) 16 team conferences or 80 teams.

Pac 12 will add 4.
Big 12 will add 6
SEC will add 2
Big 10 will add 2
ACC will add 1 and Notre Dame will start playing full time football.

This means 15 teams will move up. My guess is:

1. Connecticut
2. Cincinnati
3. East Carolina
4. Central Florida
5. South Florida
6. Houston
7. SMU
8. Memphis
9. BYU
10. Boise State
11. Fresno State
12. San Diego State
13. Nevada
14. Utah State
15. Colorado State

Done. Where do we sign?
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RE: 4 16-team Conferences - Chicago Sun Times
(05-07-2014 11:34 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  07-coffee3 Actually look for five (5) 16 team conferences or 80 teams.

Is that a quote from someone with authority? Or just a hope.
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(05-07-2014 11:34 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  07-coffee3 Actually look for five (5) 16 team conferences or 80 teams.

Pac 12 will add 4.
Big 12 will add 6
SEC will add 2
Big 10 will add 2
ACC will add 1 and Notre Dame will start playing full time football.

This means 15 teams will move up. My guess is:

1. Connecticut
2. Cincinnati
3. East Carolina
4. Central Florida
5. South Florida
6. Houston
7. SMU
8. Memphis
9. BYU
10. Boise State
11. Fresno State
12. San Diego State
13. Nevada
14. Utah State
15. Colorado State

If this were to happen, I'd hope Tulsa would just drop football all together. No reason to compete if it's not at the highest level... disappointing if that happened, but probably the best solution.

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(05-07-2014 11:39 AM)goldenhurricane2 Wrote:  
(05-07-2014 11:34 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  07-coffee3 Actually look for five (5) 16 team conferences or 80 teams.

Pac 12 will add 4.
Big 12 will add 6
SEC will add 2
Big 10 will add 2
ACC will add 1 and Notre Dame will start playing full time football.

This means 15 teams will move up. My guess is:

1. Connecticut
2. Cincinnati
3. East Carolina
4. Central Florida
5. South Florida
6. Houston
7. SMU
8. Memphis
9. BYU
10. Boise State
11. Fresno State
12. San Diego State
13. Nevada
14. Utah State
15. Colorado State

If this were to happen, I'd hope Tulsa would just drop football all together. No reason to compete if it's not at the highest level... disappointing if that happened, but probably the best solution.

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That is something that you would never have to worry about, because the AAC would almost certainly go balls out for BYU and Army. I doubt if the AAC would ever invite Boise State after that last crap they tried to pull, but I can see the AAC taking another shot at SDSU, Colorado State, and a combination of ODU, UMass or Charlotte; if they can not get BYU and Army.
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(05-07-2014 11:34 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  07-coffee3 Actually look for five (5) 16 team conferences or 80 teams.

Pac 12 will add 4.
Big 12 will add 6
SEC will add 2
Big 10 will add 2
ACC will add 1 and Notre Dame will start playing full time football.

This means 15 teams will move up. My guess is:

1. Connecticut
2. Cincinnati
3. East Carolina
4. Central Florida
5. South Florida
6. Houston
7. SMU
8. Memphis
9. BYU
10. Boise State
11. Fresno State
12. San Diego State
13. Nevada
14. Utah State
15. Colorado State

Makes sense.
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RE: 4 16-team Conferences - Chicago Sun Times
The media markets the B1G will have with Rutgers and Maryland will be huge compared to any other conference. This expansion will allow each member to receive perhaps twice as much as members of any other conference.

The other P5 conferences will not allow that disparity. This will force them to act.

TV is "driving the bus". Places like: Lubbock, Manhattan, Stillwater, and Waco have no value. With the huge difference the B1G will have there may be major changes.
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(05-07-2014 11:19 AM)ECUPirated Wrote:  I'm thinking more along the lines of 6 x 14 team conferences for a total of 84, expansion to 8 team playoff with 6 conference champions and 2 at large.

Let me guess: Your thinking is along those lines because ECU could possibly be included in that? 07-coffee3
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(05-07-2014 11:20 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  If there really is a conference shuffle like the one described you could see programs like Wake Forest being left out in favor of the best of the best of G5 / BYU.

Wake Forest is a founding member of the ACC. They aren't going to be left out of anything.
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(05-07-2014 11:39 AM)goldenhurricane2 Wrote:  
(05-07-2014 11:34 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  07-coffee3 Actually look for five (5) 16 team conferences or 80 teams.

Pac 12 will add 4.
Big 12 will add 6
SEC will add 2
Big 10 will add 2
ACC will add 1 and Notre Dame will start playing full time football.

This means 15 teams will move up. My guess is:

1. Connecticut
2. Cincinnati
3. East Carolina
4. Central Florida
5. South Florida
6. Houston
7. SMU
8. Memphis
9. BYU
10. Boise State
11. Fresno State
12. San Diego State
13. Nevada
14. Utah State
15. Colorado State

If this were to happen, I'd hope Tulsa would just drop football all together. No reason to compete if it's not at the highest level...

First, if your school is in the G5, you already aren't competing at the highest level. You've been relegated to a lesser domain.

Second, so you think the FCS schools as well as Division II and III schools should all drop football? I think that would be a shame and don't understand why.

Finally, the highest level of football is the NFL and nobody in college competes there.
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(05-07-2014 11:38 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  
(05-07-2014 11:34 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  07-coffee3 Actually look for five (5) 16 team conferences or 80 teams.

Is that a quote from someone with authority? Or just a hope.

Guess --
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(05-07-2014 12:13 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(05-07-2014 11:20 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  If there really is a conference shuffle like the one described you could see programs like Wake Forest being left out in favor of the best of the best of G5 / BYU.

Wake Forest is a founding member of the ACC. They aren't going to be left out of anything.

Could be --- one has to wonder what the role of the existing Grants of Rights will have *IF* something like this were to happen.
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(05-07-2014 12:17 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(05-07-2014 11:39 AM)goldenhurricane2 Wrote:  
(05-07-2014 11:34 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  07-coffee3 Actually look for five (5) 16 team conferences or 80 teams.

Pac 12 will add 4.
Big 12 will add 6
SEC will add 2
Big 10 will add 2
ACC will add 1 and Notre Dame will start playing full time football.

This means 15 teams will move up. My guess is:

1. Connecticut
2. Cincinnati
3. East Carolina
4. Central Florida
5. South Florida
6. Houston
7. SMU
8. Memphis
9. BYU
10. Boise State
11. Fresno State
12. San Diego State
13. Nevada
14. Utah State
15. Colorado State

If this were to happen, I'd hope Tulsa would just drop football all together. No reason to compete if it's not at the highest level...

First, if your school is in the G5, you already aren't competing at the highest level. You've been relegated to a lesser domain.

Second, so you think the FCS schools as well as Division II and III schools should all drop football? I think that would be a shame and don't understand why.

Finally, the highest level of football is the NFL and nobody in college competes there.

Nice job of taking what I said and completely turning it around.

It would be demoralizing for a fan base to go from competing at a higher level to a lower level... regardless of fbs, fcs, d2 or d3.

I think you know I was talking about college football, not NFL.

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(05-07-2014 12:23 PM)goldenhurricane2 Wrote:  
(05-07-2014 12:17 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(05-07-2014 11:39 AM)goldenhurricane2 Wrote:  
(05-07-2014 11:34 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  07-coffee3 Actually look for five (5) 16 team conferences or 80 teams.

Pac 12 will add 4.
Big 12 will add 6
SEC will add 2
Big 10 will add 2
ACC will add 1 and Notre Dame will start playing full time football.

This means 15 teams will move up. My guess is:

1. Connecticut
2. Cincinnati
3. East Carolina
4. Central Florida
5. South Florida
6. Houston
7. SMU
8. Memphis
9. BYU
10. Boise State
11. Fresno State
12. San Diego State
13. Nevada
14. Utah State
15. Colorado State

If this were to happen, I'd hope Tulsa would just drop football all together. No reason to compete if it's not at the highest level...

First, if your school is in the G5, you already aren't competing at the highest level. You've been relegated to a lesser domain.

Second, so you think the FCS schools as well as Division II and III schools should all drop football? I think that would be a shame and don't understand why.

Finally, the highest level of football is the NFL and nobody in college competes there.

Nice job of taking what I said and completely turning it around.

It would be demoralizing for a fan base to go from competing at a higher level to a lower level... regardless of fbs, fcs, d2 or d3.

I think you know I was talking about college football, not NFL.

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Best to just ignore that guy. Might as well be rationalizing with a stop sign.
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