(04-28-2014 09:41 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 07:49 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 07:46 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  No fanbase

Can't be any worse than Tulane.

shocked that Tulane made the cut.

Just like in football you will once again see why Tulane was part of this great conference(remember football? ) how about that

I would have taken Rice over Tulane, but prefer neither.

(04-29-2014 08:41 AM)uconnwhaler Wrote:  I would have taken Rice over Tulane, but prefer neither.

By picking Rice over Tulane, I'd say you DO in fact prefer one over the other.

Future additions should be large public institutions. Those help land bowls. Small private schools are not as popular with the bowls and we already have several. I think Texas State might be the Texas program to keep our eye on. I know UTSA is out to the early lead, but Texas State is located in a traditional college town and has large enrollment of over 35K. They have a beautiful campus with attractive athletic facilities. The unique thing about Texas State is that it is located less that 45 minutes from 2 major cities---Austin and San Antonio. That means they have easy access to a very large number of former alums and t-shirt fans. If they can enjoy a little FBS grid iron success, they could develop into a very interesting candidate very quickly with connections to two major metro media markets.

Condoleezza or Ray?

(04-28-2014 07:18 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  Besides doubling up on market, they fit the mold for the AAC:

-urban school
-great academic reputation
-large endowment
-CUSA football champions
-great stadium
-historic baseball power

Not advocating for expansion. Just think they're pretty cool.

- You didn't actually say "great stadium," did you? That place is an old dilapidated dump best left to a bygone era. And yes, I've been there and seen it for myself.

- What does "endowment" have to do with athletic prowess?

- I love college baseball, but it is pretty much a non-factor when it comes to conference membership consideration.

I'm honestly not trying to be disrespectful here, but one of the things that excited me about joining the Big East was so that we wouldn't have to play schools like Rice and Tulane anymore. As the Cincy fan said, I'd love to have a diploma hanging on my wall from either of these two fine institutions (next to my UCF diploma, of course), but I don't see any benefit associating with them athletically. And believe me, I would like nothing more than to have Tulane prove me wrong.

(04-29-2014 09:28 AM)UConnHusky Wrote:  Condoleezza or Ray?

(04-29-2014 09:13 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Future additions should be large public institutions. Those help land bowls. Small private schools are not as popular with the bowls and we already have several. I think Texas State might be the Texas program to keep our eye on. I know UTSA is out to the early lead, but Texas State is located in a traditional college town and has large enrollment of over 35K. They have a beautiful campus with attractive athletic facilities. The unique thing about Texas State is that it is located less that 45 minutes from 2 major cities---Austin and San Antonio. That means they have easy access to a very large number of former alums and t-shirt fans. If they can enjoy a little FBS grid iron success, they could develop into a very interesting candidate very quickly with connections to two major metro media markets.

Completely agree with you on Texas State. They've got the potential to be amazing in Div. I-A. (I don't say FBS because, well, I'm not PC.)

(04-28-2014 08:25 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  Again folks, please see the disclaimer. This is not advocating for their membership in the AAC. This is a discussion of their merits.

Oh ok.

I would be alright with accepting Rice if we paired them with Montana. That combo is unstoppable.

(04-28-2014 07:50 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 07:18 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  Besides doubling up on market, they fit the mold for the AAC:

-urban school
-great academic reputation
-large endowment
-CUSA football champions
-great stadium
-historic baseball power

Not advocating for expansion. Just think they're pretty cool.

Don't try to bring all of your CUSA friends into this conference. We already took Tulane & Tulsa. Enough!

Let's not get carried away. The vast majority of us are former CUSA:
ECU
Cinci
Memphis
SMU
Houston
UCF
USF
Tulane
Tulsa
Louisville-leaving next season
Non-CUSA:
Temple-MAC. (After a brief and awful run in the Big East as a football only; First and only school to ever be kicked out of a conference for poor performance.
Navy-Set to join in 2015; long-time independent in football. Mid-Major in Olympic Sports
UCONN-Entered D-1 in late 90's in football

(04-29-2014 09:13 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Future additions should be large public institutions. Those help land bowls. Small private schools are not as popular with the bowls and we already have several. I think Texas State might be the Texas program to keep our eye on. I know UTSA is out to the early lead, but Texas State is located in a traditional college town and has large enrollment of over 35K. They have a beautiful campus with attractive athletic facilities. The unique thing about Texas State is that it is located less that 45 minutes from 2 major cities---Austin and San Antonio. That means they have easy access to a very large number of former alums and t-shirt fans. If they can enjoy a little FBS grid iron success, they could develop into a very interesting candidate very quickly with connections to two major metro media markets.

I tend to agree with you about Texas St. I too believe that have a tremendous upside. I don't agree with you that their proximity to Austin and San Antonio are upsides though. Those are Longhorn towns through and through. I do agree with you about the size of the school and that it's an awesome college town. The name is a great thing as well. You all know my opinion on the value of state schools with names like University of ___________(insert state) and _______(insert state) University etc. to attract recruits, get TV ratings and get the "t-shirt" fans.

(04-29-2014 07:23 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  Rice should be rooting for UH to make the jump to P5. It's their only chance to escape CUSA hell and rejoin SMU, Tulane and Tulsa.

Houston will not join P5. You guys had your chance in the SW Conference and blew it. You can get more politicians to write letters on your behalf to the Big 12 but Texas doesn't want you. Now if that politician had the clout of a certain Texas Governor in 1994.......(See Baylor to the Big 12)

(04-29-2014 08:06 AM)pablowow Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 09:41 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 07:49 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 07:46 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  No fanbase

Can't be any worse than Tulane.

shocked that Tulane made the cut.

Just like in football you will once again see why Tulane was part of this great conference(remember football? ) how about that

Wow you beat us in triple OT with tons of breaks after 5 straight losses and a 3-10 overall record. Not impressed, hope Tulane does fantastic, however I don't get the value of markets unless people in your market actually care about the product.

(04-29-2014 11:56 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  Wow you beat us in triple OT with tons of breaks after 5 straight losses and a 3-10 overall record. Not impressed, hope Tulane does fantastic, however I don't get the value of markets unless people in your market actually care about the product.

What breaks? The one where we stuffed your run all game? When you can't run the ball, lateral passing = field goals, not TDs. The break where our starting QB didn't play?
There is a reason ECU couldn't get into this league for so long...even after we got in.

(04-29-2014 12:07 PM)EdisonDoyle Wrote:  

(04-29-2014 11:56 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  Wow you beat us in triple OT with tons of breaks after 5 straight losses and a 3-10 overall record. Not impressed, hope Tulane does fantastic, however I don't get the value of markets unless people in your market actually care about the product.

What breaks? The one where we stuffed your run all game? When you can't run the ball, lateral passing = field goals, not TDs. The break where our starting QB didn't play?
There is a reason ECU couldn't get into this league for so long...even after we got in.

3 missed FGs on our part and a 14 point swing in regulation with 100 yard Int return. Congrats, you made a play, certainly not one you can rely on.

Again with the Tulane attacks. Tulane has more potential than perhaps any non-P5 private in the nation. There is less competition in LA and the NOLA area is loaded (with TU being the only D1 school). The comps to Miami are there and the people in this area are crazy about sports. The recruiting in roads for other schools are there. The destination city is there....it is a centerpiece city for college sports and all sports in general. This is a former SEC school, AAU and has 4X the enrollment of Rice. Despite having next to no success, TU was chosen, therefore all of these college presidents/ADs/commissioners are just fools, correct?

What's the point of rehashing the past?

Rice is not going anywhere with Houston still in town and in a G5. The enrollment and mobility of their grads at Rice will always hold them down. It's a great institution, but if the AAC has to bring in Rice, this league is in trouble.

No more Texas schools

(04-29-2014 08:54 AM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  

(04-29-2014 08:41 AM)uconnwhaler Wrote:  I would have taken Rice over Tulane, but prefer neither.

By picking Rice over Tulane, I'd say you DO in fact prefer one over the other.

You misread. If I have three options: a) Tulane; b) Rice; c) neither, I will choose neither. If I only had two choices, it would be Rice. But I would really hate to only have two choices.

Isn't there a CUSA forum somewhere to discuss this, or is this just CUSA forum by another name?

Tulane will be fine. Having an AAC team located in New Orleans is pretty sweet. With Tulane's new football stadium, they should generate more interest in their market and have a better game day experience. Also, their basketball will improve due to the quality of the basketball in this conference with games against the likes of UConn, Cincy, Memphis, SMU, and Temple.

Give them a chance before you them.