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RE: Copperheads
Long and thin is a good snake. Short and thick is a bad snake.
Head same size as body is a good snake. Head wider than body is a bad snake.
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RE: Copperheads
(04-22-2014 11:44 AM)TigerNK Wrote: Long and thin is a good snake. Short and thick is a bad snake.
Head same size as body is a good snake. Head wider than body is a bad snake.
Good to know. thanks!
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RE: Copperheads
(04-22-2014 11:44 AM)TigerNK Wrote: Long and thin is a good snake. Short and thick is a bad snake.
Head same size as body is a good snake. Head wider than body is a bad snake.
What if it's long and thick?
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RE: Copperheads
(04-22-2014 12:32 PM)MtownTigers916 Wrote: (04-22-2014 11:44 AM)TigerNK Wrote: Long and thin is a good snake. Short and thick is a bad snake.
Head same size as body is a good snake. Head wider than body is a bad snake.
What if it's long and thick?
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RE: Copperheads
Growing up in rural Northwest TN, I know some REDNECK guys. I've got friends that will just pick up a 3 ft copperhead or water moccasin and snap its neck.
I saw some "Snake Repellent" at Wal-Mart recently. I don't know if it works or not.
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RE: Copperheads
(04-22-2014 12:32 PM)MtownTigers916 Wrote: (04-22-2014 11:44 AM)TigerNK Wrote: Long and thin is a good snake. Short and thick is a bad snake.
Head same size as body is a good snake. Head wider than body is a bad snake.
What if it's long and thick?
Oldman Griz in 3...2...1.
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RE: Copperheads
(04-22-2014 11:39 AM)tigergreen Wrote: (04-21-2014 07:47 PM)TigerBill Wrote: (04-21-2014 07:27 PM)eltigre Wrote: (04-21-2014 03:57 PM)tigergreen Wrote: (04-21-2014 03:52 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote: One what???!!! Copperhead?!!! You know I have a lot of monkey grass in my front yard.
.....now moving to the second floor of a condo.....
Yep, copperhead(s)....that's what the babies were, too. They're more prevalent in the city than you would think.
A friend of mine in Little Rock was bitten on the hand last Summer. He had one of those water hose pots used for storage. He reached in to get the hose and got popped. Now, please learn to recognize good snakes from bad. I have a neighbor down the street that has killed 2 "copperheads" that turned out to be kings.
Yikes! Kill the kings and you'll wind up with copperheads.
the difference is the coloring - copper vs. greyish, right? they both have the diamond markings?
I'll be the first to say I didn't go out there to check it out; I was just going on my husband's information - but he grew up in the country, so he probably knows.
Copperheads are pretty easy; copper and red, thick, tri-angular head, maybe even a rattle of sorts, especially when young. Greyish/brown/blackish that's also thick and heavy looking, same head, that's a cottonmouth. Copperheads are one thing, cottonmouths quite another.
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RE: Copperheads
(04-22-2014 01:39 PM)supertiger Wrote: Growing up in rural Northwest TN, I know some REDNECK guys. I've got friends that will just pick up a 3 ft copperhead or water moccasin and snap its neck.
I saw some "Snake Repellent" at Wal-Mart recently. I don't know if it works or not.
Yes that does work. I put it around the perimeter of my yard every year. It's so dry out here in the summer that cottonmouth and very aggressive water snakes (look like cottonmouth) like to come in the yard for a drink of water. No, no, no.
I killed five or six pretty good sized ones in the last 9 years. My wife killed one that had a frog in its mouth.
It has a sulphur ingredient that snakes can't tolerate.
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RE: Copperheads
(04-22-2014 11:44 AM)TigerNK Wrote: Long and thin is a good snake. Short and thick is a bad snake.
Head same size as body is a good snake. Head wider than body is a bad snake.
Not always. I caught a nice size hog nose snake about 30 minutes ago outside my back door. Those guys are cool. When alarmed they spread their head like a cobra and will fake a strike. When this doesn't work they roll over and play dead even sticking their tongue out. These boys are very thick in the body.
A sure fire way to determine good from bad is the good guys have round pupils. Bad guys have pupils that are vertical slits. At least that is true around here.
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RE: Copperheads
Well this thread has scared the **** out of me. Does anyone know where I can get my hands on a mongoose or a honey badger?
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RE: Copperheads
(04-21-2014 11:37 AM)TigerBill Wrote: (04-21-2014 11:34 AM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote: (04-21-2014 11:31 AM)TigerBill Wrote: If anyone thinks there aren't copperheads near your location in Memphis, you're wrong. Last night, however, we had some new fun. About 2 am a pack of coyotes started screaming and they were CLOSE. Had to have been in my neighbors yard or at the street, maybe 100 yards. Fun times.
It still beats hearing rap music bumping loudly
Oh hell yes.
And gunfire.
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RE: Copperheads
(04-22-2014 07:32 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: (04-21-2014 08:17 AM)TigerNK Wrote: Copperheads generally aren't aggressive at all. You step on them, they will bite you. Other than that, there aren't a lot of unprovoked human bites. Even though they are venomous, they are a pretty good snake. Eat a ton of mice, rats, moles, voles etc.
Cottonmouths are another story. I've had them chase after me on land and try to jump in a boat. They also have much more potent venom than the copperhead. Horrible creatures. Eat perfectly good fish, turtles, birds, and even eat other snakes. Good one is a dead one.
I've had them come off the banks chasing my boat. One fell in my boat from a tree once, my buddy jumped out and then the snake jumped out and my buddy jumped back in, it all happened so fast he didn't even get wet, lol.
I'm happily fishing in the Little Red, hauling in a lovely rainbow. All of a sudden, I see this pinkish shining snake drift by in the water, just under my pole. Shocked the H out of me. Apparently, snake dude was sunning himself on the banks and as the water rose, he got swept off into the cold water and was floating along kind of in shock and half frozen. My grandfather had the ultimate respect and dislike for water moccasins. I incorporated that into my soul from him at the age of 6.
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RE: Copperheads
(04-22-2014 07:28 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: (04-19-2014 11:26 PM)TigerBill Wrote: (04-19-2014 10:03 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote: Kind of glad to be in Midtown right now. All we have to deal with are owls, hawks, grass snakes and criminals.
Copperheads aren't the worst of it. Last night I heard a coyote pack howling, and there's a horse in my backyard.
I shot a coyowolf on my hunting property this past deer season as big as a large German Shepherd. Some say we don't have those this far east yet, I say BS, that was no ordinary coyote. The place is lousy with copperheads and cottonmouths.
Not sure how far "east" Arkansas is considered, but I had a coyote-whatever pass in front of my car last year, and I swear it was as big as a deer, but definitely NOT a deer.
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RE: Copperheads
(04-22-2014 08:40 PM)klg316 Wrote: Well this thread has scared the **** out of me. Does anyone know where I can get my hands on a mongoose or a honey badger?
No, but I know where you can get a Lizhoney. In Arkansaw.
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RE: Copperheads
(04-22-2014 09:21 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote: (04-22-2014 07:32 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: (04-21-2014 08:17 AM)TigerNK Wrote: Copperheads generally aren't aggressive at all. You step on them, they will bite you. Other than that, there aren't a lot of unprovoked human bites. Even though they are venomous, they are a pretty good snake. Eat a ton of mice, rats, moles, voles etc.
Cottonmouths are another story. I've had them chase after me on land and try to jump in a boat. They also have much more potent venom than the copperhead. Horrible creatures. Eat perfectly good fish, turtles, birds, and even eat other snakes. Good one is a dead one.
I've had them come off the banks chasing my boat. One fell in my boat from a tree once, my buddy jumped out and then the snake jumped out and my buddy jumped back in, it all happened so fast he didn't even get wet, lol.
I'm happily fishing in the Little Red, hauling in a lovely rainbow. All of a sudden, I see this pinkish shining snake drift by in the water, just under my pole. Shocked the H out of me. Apparently, snake dude was sunning himself on the banks and as the water rose, he got swept off into the cold water and was floating along kind of in shock and half frozen. My grandfather had the ultimate respect and dislike for water moccasins. I incorporated that into my soul from him at the age of 6.
that's just it for me. Heck, when I was 5-7 yrs old, I loved me some outdoors. All of it - camping, lakes, cabins, woods, you name it. And then I remember to this day, my Dad saying that he was scared of snakes. As we were doing our cabin, lake thing. It just stuck with me. I never got over it. I can view snakes in a zoo, but $$$$, if I see one near me, I may have a heart attack.
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RE: Copperheads
(04-22-2014 09:14 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote: (04-21-2014 11:37 AM)TigerBill Wrote: (04-21-2014 11:34 AM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote: (04-21-2014 11:31 AM)TigerBill Wrote: If anyone thinks there aren't copperheads near your location in Memphis, you're wrong. Last night, however, we had some new fun. About 2 am a pack of coyotes started screaming and they were CLOSE. Had to have been in my neighbors yard or at the street, maybe 100 yards. Fun times.
It still beats hearing rap music bumping loudly
Oh hell yes.
And gunfire.
I hear gun shots all the time in Lakeland. People shooting in the woods.
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RE: Copperheads
(04-22-2014 08:40 PM)klg316 Wrote: Well this thread has scared the **** out of me. Does anyone know where I can get my hands on a mongoose or a honey badger?
Or a Jack Russell. Not only will run snakes away but will dig up moles.
My daughter purchased a home on a couple of acres out near Davies Plantation and her 10 year old Jack Russell went crazy digging holes. Instinct I guess. Eventually after about two weeks she had dug about 50 holes and killed 7 or 8 moles.
Must have worn her out, she doesn't dig anymore.
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RE: Copperheads
(04-22-2014 11:44 AM)TigerNK Wrote: Long and thin is a good snake. Short and thick is a bad snake.
Head same size as body is a good snake. Head wider than body is a bad snake.
There is such a thing as a good snake?
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RE: Copperheads
(04-22-2014 05:25 PM)ohmboy Wrote: (04-22-2014 11:44 AM)TigerNK Wrote: Long and thin is a good snake. Short and thick is a bad snake.
Head same size as body is a good snake. Head wider than body is a bad snake.
Not always. I caught a nice size hog nose snake about 30 minutes ago outside my back door. Those guys are cool. When alarmed they spread their head like a cobra and will fake a strike. When this doesn't work they roll over and play dead even sticking their tongue out. These boys are very thick in the body.
A sure fire way to determine good from bad is the good guys have round pupils. Bad guys have pupils that are vertical slits. At least that is true around here.
Yikes, who would stick around long enough to find out?
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RE: Copperheads
(04-22-2014 09:21 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote: (04-22-2014 07:32 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: (04-21-2014 08:17 AM)TigerNK Wrote: Copperheads generally aren't aggressive at all. You step on them, they will bite you. Other than that, there aren't a lot of unprovoked human bites. Even though they are venomous, they are a pretty good snake. Eat a ton of mice, rats, moles, voles etc.
Cottonmouths are another story. I've had them chase after me on land and try to jump in a boat. They also have much more potent venom than the copperhead. Horrible creatures. Eat perfectly good fish, turtles, birds, and even eat other snakes. Good one is a dead one.
I've had them come off the banks chasing my boat. One fell in my boat from a tree once, my buddy jumped out and then the snake jumped out and my buddy jumped back in, it all happened so fast he didn't even get wet, lol.
I'm happily fishing in the Little Red, hauling in a lovely rainbow. All of a sudden, I see this pinkish shining snake drift by in the water, just under my pole. Shocked the H out of me. Apparently, snake dude was sunning himself on the banks and as the water rose, he got swept off into the cold water and was floating along kind of in shock and half frozen. My grandfather had the ultimate respect and dislike for water moccasins. I incorporated that into my soul from him at the age of 6.
Reminds me of my grandfather. He was an avid outdoorsman, decorated WWII vet and bigger than John Wayne to me.
He wasn't afraid of anything. One day we were walking back to the Scout after a spring day of turkey hunting and we walked upon a huge water moccasin. It was probably the only time I ever saw him startled, even for that split second.
I said, I didn't think you were afraid of anything. He said he wasn't, but that he respected snakes and electricity
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