I guess Indiana has no money to go to Florida without playing a game.
Bull...
Another poor excuse. Frazier needs to get Indiana here by 2020.

(04-21-2014 02:28 PM)huskie1stdown Wrote:  I guess Indiana has no money to go to Florida without playing a game.
Bull...
Another poor excuse. Frazier needs to get a B1G school here by 2020.

Fixed

(04-21-2014 01:57 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 01:33 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  I can't see where playing at FIU would help much - their stadium is even smaller than ours with max crowd of about 22K. If we're talking TV viewers the game could just as easily have been played @Indiana.

Recruiting expose for IU to kids in South Florida.

Its the same reason why a NIU vs FIU 1-1 would be good for our program.

NIU007 is right though, for nearly every single home and home scheduled for every other team across the country, our fans make some excuse why it cant be done here. Excuse after excuse gets old.

(04-21-2014 02:38 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 01:57 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 01:33 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  I can't see where playing at FIU would help much - their stadium is even smaller than ours with max crowd of about 22K. If we're talking TV viewers the game could just as easily have been played @Indiana.

Recruiting expose for IU to kids in South Florida.

Its the same reason why a NIU vs FIU 1-1 would be good for our program.

NIU007 is right though, for nearly every single home and home scheduled for every other team across the country, our fans make some excuse why it cant be done here. Excuse after excuse gets old.

For once I agree with MD. It can be done. Indiana may want to play at FIU more than NIU, but excuses are getting old. That being said, I still trust in Sean Frazier to get things done. He came into a messy situation, so I'm not going to hold this seasons schedule against him.

(04-21-2014 02:45 PM)timxlydon Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 02:38 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 01:57 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 01:33 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  I can't see where playing at FIU would help much - their stadium is even smaller than ours with max crowd of about 22K. If we're talking TV viewers the game could just as easily have been played @Indiana.

Recruiting expose for IU to kids in South Florida.

Its the same reason why a NIU vs FIU 1-1 would be good for our program.

NIU007 is right though, for nearly every single home and home scheduled for every other team across the country, our fans make some excuse why it cant be done here. Excuse after excuse gets old.

For once I agree with MD. It can be done. Indiana may want to play at FIU more than NIU, but excuses are getting old. That being said, I still trust in Sean Frazier to get things done. He came into a messy situation, so I'm not going to hold this seasons schedule against him.

If nothing else Frazier will try to get something done. Jiff didn't care about that and basically said so.

(04-02-2014 03:45 PM)armour248 Wrote:  

(04-02-2014 03:38 PM)cartershaw Wrote:  Guaranteed loss isn't worth 900k

I'm not sure you understand how much $900,000 is. Also the loss still probably won't mean anything in the grand scheme of things. I'd be more worried about getting to and not shitting the bed in Detroit.

+1

(04-21-2014 02:45 PM)timxlydon Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 02:38 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 01:57 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 01:33 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  I can't see where playing at FIU would help much - their stadium is even smaller than ours with max crowd of about 22K. If we're talking TV viewers the game could just as easily have been played @Indiana.

Recruiting expose for IU to kids in South Florida.

Its the same reason why a NIU vs FIU 1-1 would be good for our program.

NIU007 is right though, for nearly every single home and home scheduled for every other team across the country, our fans make some excuse why it cant be done here. Excuse after excuse gets old.

For once I agree with MD. It can be done. Indiana may want to play at FIU more than NIU, but excuses are getting old. That being said, I still trust in Sean Frazier to get things done. He came into a messy situation, so I'm not going to hold this seasons schedule against him.

I hope he can and I hope its a priority. My fear is that this problem is perpetuated because Jim Phillips laid out a playbook....do externally high profile moves, don't rock the boat, advance to the next job. Compher followed it almost exactly, and now I think Frazier will do the same. If you are in their shoes, Phillips did lay out a path for individual success, in some ways you could argue they would be crazy for not following that same recipe. My biggest fear is that what happens when the day comes you don't have the eggs and flour to follow the same recipe and be successful. There are advantages and disadvantages to blindly following a playbook/recipe. Advantage: you don't have to think much, it seems safe path to advancement Disadvantages: you can't adapt to changing landscapes easily and creates an uncertain and possible volatile future. Somehow we have to break out of what I call the era of the "Cookbook ADs"

(04-21-2014 02:59 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 02:45 PM)timxlydon Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 02:38 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 01:57 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 01:33 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  I can't see where playing at FIU would help much - their stadium is even smaller than ours with max crowd of about 22K. If we're talking TV viewers the game could just as easily have been played @Indiana.

Recruiting expose for IU to kids in South Florida.

Its the same reason why a NIU vs FIU 1-1 would be good for our program.

NIU007 is right though, for nearly every single home and home scheduled for every other team across the country, our fans make some excuse why it cant be done here. Excuse after excuse gets old.

For once I agree with MD. It can be done. Indiana may want to play at FIU more than NIU, but excuses are getting old. That being said, I still trust in Sean Frazier to get things done. He came into a messy situation, so I'm not going to hold this seasons schedule against him.

I hope he can and I hope its a priority. My fear is that this problem is perpetuated because Jim Phillips laid out a playbook....do externally high profile moves, don't rock the boat, advance to the next job. Compher followed it almost exactly, and now I think Frazier will do the same. If you are in their shoes, Phillips did lay out a path for individual success, in some ways you could argue they would be crazy for not following that same recipe. My biggest fear is that what happens when the day comes you don't have the eggs and flour to follow the same recipe and be successful. There are advantages and disadvantages to blindly following a playbook/recipe. Advantage: you don't have to think much, it seems safe path to advancement Disadvantages: you can't adapt to changing landscapes easily and creates an uncertain and possible volatile future. Somehow we have to break out of what I call the era of the "Cookbook ADs"

Sean Frazier was passed up for the Rutgers job and had to "settle" for NIU. I doubt he is going through the motions waiting for his big payday from someone else.

I don't think Frazier cares what Phillips' plan for success was.

(04-21-2014 03:47 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  I don't think Frazier cares what Phillips' plan for success was.

Its hard though when you see two of the previous AD move up before you got there, to not follow the path they laid out. That is one of the things they always say "Mimic those who are successful". The only problem though is that individual success does not necessarily always equate to the good of the program.

(04-21-2014 03:52 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 03:47 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  I don't think Frazier cares what Phillips' plan for success was.

Its hard though when you see two of the previous AD move up before you got there, to not follow the path they laid out. That is one of the things they always say "Mimic those who are successful". The only problem though is that individual success does not necessarily always equate to the good of the program.

Well, I'm sure he'll leave fairly soon if he does what other schools think is a good job. Hopefully we won't get stuck with 8 games @Nebraska before he leaves.

(04-21-2014 04:06 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 03:52 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 03:47 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  I don't think Frazier cares what Phillips' plan for success was.

Its hard though when you see two of the previous AD move up before you got there, to not follow the path they laid out. That is one of the things they always say "Mimic those who are successful". The only problem though is that individual success does not necessarily always equate to the good of the program.

Well, I'm sure he'll leave fairly soon if he does what other schools think is a good job. Hopefully we won't get stuck with 8 games @Nebraska before he leaves.

I really REALLY hope we can get out of 2 of those 4 games.

(04-21-2014 03:52 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 03:47 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  I don't think Frazier cares what Phillips' plan for success was.

Its hard though when you see two of the previous AD move up before you got there, to not follow the path they laid out. That is one of the things they always say "Mimic those who are successful". The only problem though is that individual success does not necessarily always equate to the good of the program.

As SF made himself readily available Saturday, after speaking with him I get the vibe that SF takes "the road less traveled" if you will, and relishes the challenge before him.

Just curious MD02, did you speak with SF Saturdayand share your concerns? It was hard to miss him.

(04-21-2014 02:18 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 01:22 PM)7 Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 01:18 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 01:05 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 11:51 AM)7 Wrote:  FIU plays in a recruiting hot bed...DeKalb?

There's always an excuse.

Yeah, I guess the Chicago area is a recruiting wasteland.

You go find me how many players in BCS bowls this year were from Illinois. I bet you can count them on one hand. And NIU plays in DeKalb, not Chicago.

And how many players in BCS bowls were from Toledo?

More than you'd think. MSU Freshman All-American PK Michael Geiger and All Big 10 OSU's OT Jack Mewhort are the first two that come to mind.

(04-21-2014 04:09 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  As SF made himself readily available Saturday, after speaking with him I get the vibe that SF takes "the road less traveled" if you will, and relishes the challenge before him.

After 10 years of incompetence at that position, its time for action, not words. I wouldn't be so passionate about this topic if I didn't think it was so critical to the longevity of NIU at the "FBS" status level.

(04-21-2014 04:25 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 04:09 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  As SF made himself readily available Saturday, after speaking with him I get the vibe that SF takes "the road less traveled" if you will, and relishes the challenge before him.

After 10 years of incompetence at that position, its time for action, not words. I wouldn't be so passionate about this topic if I didn't think it was so critical to the longevity of NIU at the "FBS" status level.

I just asked if you spoke to him given he was readily available.

(04-21-2014 04:27 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 04:25 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 04:09 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  As SF made himself readily available Saturday, after speaking with him I get the vibe that SF takes "the road less traveled" if you will, and relishes the challenge before him.

After 10 years of incompetence at that position, its time for action, not words. I wouldn't be so passionate about this topic if I didn't think it was so critical to the longevity of NIU at the "FBS" status level.

I just asked if you spoke to him given he was readily available.

Ive emailed before but never got a response. If we need fans telling an athletic department home scheduling needs to be a priority, we are in bigger trouble than even I imagined.

(04-21-2014 04:30 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 04:27 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 04:25 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 04:09 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  As SF made himself readily available Saturday, after speaking with him I get the vibe that SF takes "the road less traveled" if you will, and relishes the challenge before him.

After 10 years of incompetence at that position, its time for action, not words. I wouldn't be so passionate about this topic if I didn't think it was so critical to the longevity of NIU at the "FBS" status level.

I just asked if you spoke to him given he was readily available.

Ive emailed before but never got a response. If we need fans telling an athletic department home scheduling needs to be a priority, we are in bigger trouble than even I imagined.

I'll take that as a no.

And of course no they don't need us to tell them. As a matter of fact, he brought up the scheduling topic himself as we spoke.

Too bad you skipped the opportunity, I think you would have enjoyed meeting him.

(04-21-2014 04:40 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 04:30 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 04:27 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 04:25 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 04:09 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  As SF made himself readily available Saturday, after speaking with him I get the vibe that SF takes "the road less traveled" if you will, and relishes the challenge before him.

After 10 years of incompetence at that position, its time for action, not words. I wouldn't be so passionate about this topic if I didn't think it was so critical to the longevity of NIU at the "FBS" status level.

I just asked if you spoke to him given he was readily available.

Ive emailed before but never got a response. If we need fans telling an athletic department home scheduling needs to be a priority, we are in bigger trouble than even I imagined.

I'll take that as a no.

And of course no they don't need us to tell them. As a matter of fact, he brought up the scheduling topic himself as we spoke.

Too bad you skipped the opportunity, I think you would have enjoyed meeting him.

With the 7-hour round trip , spring games are pretty much off my agenda. Im sure I would like him, Im sure he is a great guy, but my main emphasis is about the actions of scheduling. He needs to get something done soon in that department.

(04-21-2014 04:48 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 04:40 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 04:30 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 04:27 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  

(04-21-2014 04:25 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  After 10 years of incompetence at that position, its time for action, not words. I wouldn't be so passionate about this topic if I didn't think it was so critical to the longevity of NIU at the "FBS" status level.

I just asked if you spoke to him given he was readily available.

Ive emailed before but never got a response. If we need fans telling an athletic department home scheduling needs to be a priority, we are in bigger trouble than even I imagined.

I'll take that as a no.

And of course no they don't need us to tell them. As a matter of fact, he brought up the scheduling topic himself as we spoke.

Too bad you skipped the opportunity, I think you would have enjoyed meeting him.

With the 7-hour round trip , spring games are pretty much off my agenda. Im sure I would like him, Im sure he is a great guy, but my main emphasis is about the actions of scheduling. He needs to get something done soon in that department.

Understandable....I thought you were there for some reason.