(04-06-2014 11:58 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(04-05-2014 02:21 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(04-05-2014 12:39 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I believe the endowment stood at $130million here recently.

That is smaller than the endowment of Ohio's engineering school by itself.

So? It's a smaller school in a smaller state than Ohio. Comparing it to a regional school in Ohio isn't really of any use.

Ohio is not a regional school. Only 15% of the students at Ohio are from the 20 county region surrounding the school. It is the least regional school out of any in the University System of Ohio by far.

Ohio is a specialty public school with a college of communications ranked 7th in the nation. The college of communication has 2500 students (15% of the undergraduate population).

Quote:Approximately 2,500 undergraduate students and 250 graduate students study in Scripps. Scripps College alumni number 18,000 worldwide and include “Today” show host Matt Lauer; “Queer Eye for the Straight Guy” creator and executive producer David Collins; Emmy winners Steve Roberts, Paul Miller and Terrence McDonnell; Grammy Awards producer Ken Ehrlich; Chicago Tribune columnist Clarence Page; CEOs Roger Ailes, Richard Brown, Dwight Ferguson and Matt Rubel; Home Shopping Network executive vice president William “Bill” Brand; Miss Universe Organization president and CEO Paula Shugart; Sports Illustrated columnist Peter King; Washington Post ombudsman Andy Alexander; Wall Street Journal senior editor Laura Landro; syndicated columnist Susan Reimer; a Barron’s Top 100 Financial Advisor Jeffery Chaddock; and producers Randall Winston (“Spin City,” “Scrubs,” and “Cougar Town,”) Dave Hackel (“Wings” and “Becker”) and Matt Wickline (“The Hughleys.”)

http://vimeo.com/scrippsou

Ohio was chartered as the first institution of higher learning in the Northwest territories and granted land to build a college.

Originally a small liberal arts university, Ohio received an influx of Civil War vets which were able to attend for free as mandated by the state. The state of Ohio has always given the school extra perks. Following World War II the campus received monies to build up campus to house students on the G.I. Bill.

The state of Ohio in the 60's had a governor which moved the state to an enrollment based funding model and Ohio built up to 20,000 undergrads during the Vietnam War. After the war enrollment declined down to 13,000 undergraduate so to assist the school the state granted it a medical college in the mid 70's. About 1990 the school was granted almost a second campus from abandoned state mental hospital built in 1968. Ohio over the last 30 years has renovated campus and brought undergraduate enrollment back up to 17,000.

During the 80's the state built a bypass around the city and there now are 4 lane highways take you directly from Cincinnati, Dayton, Columbus and WV to Athens. The time it takes to travel from Columbus to Athens has been reduced from 2.5 hours to 1 hour.

There is no comparison between Ohio's situation and ULL's. Ohio has been disproportionately helped out by the state of Ohio with more money flowing there per FTE than any other school. Partially this is due to help out the economy of Appalachian Ohio but in the process its made Athens a great place to go to school.

UL-Lafayette as you've said is a regional university for the Acadian subculture. Its not a historical comprehensive University of Louisiana and a second flagship school for the state. Its a lot better school than Monroe where 80% of its students are local commuters but Lafayette still doesn't have state wide purpose in any capacity.

(04-06-2014 11:58 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(04-05-2014 02:21 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(04-05-2014 12:39 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I believe the endowment stood at $130million here recently.

That is smaller than the endowment of Ohio's engineering school by itself.

So? It's a smaller school in a smaller state than Ohio. Comparing it to a regional school in Ohio isn't really of any use.

Engineering is only one program>Total ULL endowment
That negates the states size, population, region and enrollment.

Kittin:

I think Ohio and UL are more alike than either is to the 'leading' schools in their respective states. Both are schools that are greatly overshadowed by a much larger, and wealthier, state flagship.

But, beyond that there really isn't any comparison that is worth anything. Graduates from each school are not really competing with one another.

(04-06-2014 10:22 PM)Piratelife4me Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 11:58 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(04-05-2014 02:21 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(04-05-2014 12:39 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I believe the endowment stood at $130million here recently.

That is smaller than the endowment of Ohio's engineering school by itself.

So? It's a smaller school in a smaller state than Ohio. Comparing it to a regional school in Ohio isn't really of any use.

Engineering is only one program>Total ULL endowment
That negates the states size, population, region and enrollment.

Huh?

ECU and UL have almost identical endowments.

(04-06-2014 10:22 PM)Piratelife4me Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 11:58 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(04-05-2014 02:21 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(04-05-2014 12:39 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I believe the endowment stood at $130million here recently.

That is smaller than the endowment of Ohio's engineering school by itself.

So? It's a smaller school in a smaller state than Ohio. Comparing it to a regional school in Ohio isn't really of any use.

Engineering is only one program>Total ULL endowment
That negates the states size, population, region and enrollment.

Its the Russ College of Engineering. The Russ family gave a gift of 124 million in 2008, the largest single donation ever to an engineering college in the United States and largest ever individual donation to a school in Ohio.

http://www.ohio.edu/engineering/about/index.cfm

(04-06-2014 10:27 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 10:22 PM)Piratelife4me Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 11:58 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(04-05-2014 02:21 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(04-05-2014 12:39 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I believe the endowment stood at $130million here recently.

That is smaller than the endowment of Ohio's engineering school by itself.

So? It's a smaller school in a smaller state than Ohio. Comparing it to a regional school in Ohio isn't really of any use.

Engineering is only one program>Total ULL endowment
That negates the states size, population, region and enrollment.

Huh?

ECU and UL have almost identical endowments.

Yea, but I was not making excuses about our endowment.

(04-06-2014 10:27 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Kittin:

I think Ohio and UL are more alike than either is to the 'leading' schools in their respective states. Both are schools that are greatly overshadowed by a much larger, and wealthier, state flagship.

No it doesn't work that way in Ohio. As I've said Ohio is a specialty public university in communications. It has the best school of communications period and overshadows Ohio State's journalism school.

Ohio State is a B1G research university but its professional schools aren't particularly strong. The best business school is at Miami with 3,000 out of 15,000 students majoring in business. Cincinnati has the best engineering school in the state with its 5 year mandatory co-op program.

Ohio and Miami also have two of the most highly rated campuses in the country as well. Ohio State has an average campus.

LSU is the main school for a poor state and its an OK school. Ohio State is a B1G research school in a large state with many other strong universities and private colleges. Ohio State doesn't dominate outright but manages things with alliances and Ohio is a close ally as the two schools share common interests.

Ohio just opened medical schools in Columbus and Cleveland and now has 40,000 system wide students which is 3rd in the state behind OSU and Kent State. In Ohio the local universities schools are in the 15,000 to 20,000 so its pretty significant to have that system wide size.

There are really zero parallels to the Ohio and ULL situation with the exception of being located in unique cultural regions and good region wide support for a mid major school.

There is no such thing as a 'specialty' public school. What you mean is that there is a subpar school with a good program here and there.

UL serves the economic needs of the region it is in, like Ohio does. The limited nature of those needs is why the rankings and prestige are near nonexistent.

Ohio might be a decent school, from what you've said, but it's just like UL in that outside of the state and very close areas of nearby states nobody knows anything about it or even how to go about judging it.

(04-06-2014 10:52 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 10:27 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Kittin:

I think Ohio and UL are more alike than either is to the 'leading' schools in their respective states. Both are schools that are greatly overshadowed by a much larger, and wealthier, state flagship.

No it doesn't work that way in Ohio. As I've said Ohio is a specialty public university in communications. It has the best school of communications period and overshadows Ohio State's journalism school.

Ohio State is a B1G research university but its professional schools aren't particularly strong. The best business school is at Miami with 3,000 out of 15,000 students majoring in business. Cincinnati has the best engineering school in the state with its 5 year mandatory co-op program.

Ohio and Miami also have two of the most highly rated campuses in the country as well. Ohio State has an average campus.

LSU is the main school for a poor state and its an OK school. Ohio State is a B1G research school in a large state with many other strong universities and private colleges. Ohio State doesn't dominate outright but manages things with alliances and Ohio is a close ally as the two schools share common interests.

Ohio just opened medical schools in Columbus and Cleveland and now has 40,000 system wide students which is 3rd in the state behind OSU and Kent State. In Ohio the local universities schools are in the 15,000 to 20,000 so its pretty significant to have that system wide size.

There are really zero parallels to the Ohio and ULL situation with the exception of being located in unique cultural regions and good region wide support for a mid major school.

this

(04-06-2014 10:58 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  There is no such thing as a 'specialty' public school. What you mean is that there is a subpar school with a good program here and there.

UL serves the economic needs of the region it is in, like Ohio does. The limited nature of those needs is why the rankings and prestige are near nonexistent.

Ohio might be a decent school, from what you've said, but it's just like UL in that outside of the state and very close areas of nearby states nobody knows anything about it or even how to go about judging it.

I will throw out a few college names for you:

Michigan Tech
Colorado School of Mines
William & Mary

What would you call these schools? Are they land grants? Are they historic comprehensive universities? Obviously not the case.

They are specialty public universities, quality public universities with a particular focus. Ohio University had a similar mission for its first 150 years as a small (under 5,000) student school for liberal arts. That specialty switched to Communications as that field developed in the 60's and the school grew in size from state funds due to the Civil War, World War II and Vietnam conflicts.

Ohio University name history:

1802: American Western University
1804: Ohio University

Louisiana Lafayette name history:

1898: Southwestern Louisiana Industrial Institute
1921: Southwestern Louisiana Institute of Liberal and Technical Learning
1960: University of Southwestern Louisiana
1999: University of Louisiana at Lafayette

Ohio was never called Southeastern Ohio Technical School for the Blind or Ohio State-Southern Campus. The school was NEVER a regional or local college in mission.

Amen to the above.

(04-07-2014 12:35 AM)Savacool Wrote:  Amen to the above.

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(04-06-2014 10:52 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 10:27 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Kittin:

I think Ohio and UL are more alike than either is to the 'leading' schools in their respective states. Both are schools that are greatly overshadowed by a much larger, and wealthier, state flagship.

No it doesn't work that way in Ohio. As I've said Ohio is a specialty public university in communications. It has the best school of communications period and overshadows Ohio State's journalism school.

Ohio State is a B1G research university but its professional schools aren't particularly strong. The best business school is at Miami with 3,000 out of 15,000 students majoring in business. Cincinnati has the best engineering school in the state with its 5 year mandatory co-op program.

Ohio and Miami also have two of the most highly rated campuses in the country as well. Ohio State has an average campus.

LSU is the main school for a poor state and its an OK school. Ohio State is a B1G research school in a large state with many other strong universities and private colleges. Ohio State doesn't dominate outright but manages things with alliances and Ohio is a close ally as the two schools share common interests.

Ohio just opened medical schools in Columbus and Cleveland and now has 40,000 system wide students which is 3rd in the state behind OSU and Kent State. In Ohio the local universities schools are in the 15,000 to 20,000 so its pretty significant to have that system wide size.

There are really zero parallels to the Ohio and ULL situation with the exception of being located in unique cultural regions and good region wide support for a mid major school.

The University of Louisiana at Lafayette is not a Regional University. It is designated a Statewide University by the State of Louisiana. It is recognized as a Research University with High research activity by Carnegie, RU/H. Interestingly, that is the same Carnegie rating as Ohio University. We were a Regional University with a Regional Name but those days are done. I am very proud of how far we have come in the last 30 years Academically. Fans of ULM, Tulane and Louisiana Tech can cry all the tears they wish to but there is no turning back the clock. Our Computer Science, Biology, Nursing, Engineering and Business Programs take a back seat to no one. Our University in 1962 established the 1st Masters of Science Program in the U. S. It is ranked as one of the top 50 in the United States and the Faculty is top shelf. We are growing and will to continue to grow while some of the other public Universities in Louisiana face downsizing because of Budget cuts. We will be fine, we are the Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns.

(04-07-2014 06:44 AM)swampbear Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 10:52 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 10:27 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Kittin:

I think Ohio and UL are more alike than either is to the 'leading' schools in their respective states. Both are schools that are greatly overshadowed by a much larger, and wealthier, state flagship.

No it doesn't work that way in Ohio. As I've said Ohio is a specialty public university in communications. It has the best school of communications period and overshadows Ohio State's journalism school.

Ohio State is a B1G research university but its professional schools aren't particularly strong. The best business school is at Miami with 3,000 out of 15,000 students majoring in business. Cincinnati has the best engineering school in the state with its 5 year mandatory co-op program.

Ohio and Miami also have two of the most highly rated campuses in the country as well. Ohio State has an average campus.

LSU is the main school for a poor state and its an OK school. Ohio State is a B1G research school in a large state with many other strong universities and private colleges. Ohio State doesn't dominate outright but manages things with alliances and Ohio is a close ally as the two schools share common interests.

Ohio just opened medical schools in Columbus and Cleveland and now has 40,000 system wide students which is 3rd in the state behind OSU and Kent State. In Ohio the local universities schools are in the 15,000 to 20,000 so its pretty significant to have that system wide size.

There are really zero parallels to the Ohio and ULL situation with the exception of being located in unique cultural regions and good region wide support for a mid major school.

The University of Louisiana at Lafayette is not a Regional University. It is designated a Statewide University by the State of Louisiana. It is recognized as a Research University with High research activity by Carnegie, RU/H. Interestingly, that is the same Carnegie rating as Ohio University. We were a Regional University with a Regional Name but those days are done. I am very proud of how far we have come in the last 30 years Academically. Fans of ULM, Tulane and Louisiana Tech can cry all the tears they wish to but there is no turning back the clock. Our Computer Science, Biology, Nursing, Engineering and Business Programs take a back seat to no one. Our University in 1962 established the 1st Masters of Science Program in the U. S. It is ranked as one of the top 50 in the United States and the Faculty is top shelf. We are growing and will to continue to grow while some of the other public Universities in Louisiana face downsizing because of Budget cuts. We will be fine, we are the Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns.

Wait...I thought Louisiana was only being used for sports recognition as has been pointed out countless times here? You are talking about academics here so it's back to the UL-L Ragin' Cajuns. Most be a cool name change when you can't even keep track of who you are. It's awesome that you guys stick to your guns here and all and can respect that...I've just never understood the whole "only selling ourselves as Louisiana athletically." Why not go all in or all out?

(04-07-2014 09:12 AM)bearcatfan1211 Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 06:44 AM)swampbear Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 10:52 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 10:27 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Kittin:

I think Ohio and UL are more alike than either is to the 'leading' schools in their respective states. Both are schools that are greatly overshadowed by a much larger, and wealthier, state flagship.

No it doesn't work that way in Ohio. As I've said Ohio is a specialty public university in communications. It has the best school of communications period and overshadows Ohio State's journalism school.

Ohio State is a B1G research university but its professional schools aren't particularly strong. The best business school is at Miami with 3,000 out of 15,000 students majoring in business. Cincinnati has the best engineering school in the state with its 5 year mandatory co-op program.

Ohio and Miami also have two of the most highly rated campuses in the country as well. Ohio State has an average campus.

LSU is the main school for a poor state and its an OK school. Ohio State is a B1G research school in a large state with many other strong universities and private colleges. Ohio State doesn't dominate outright but manages things with alliances and Ohio is a close ally as the two schools share common interests.

Ohio just opened medical schools in Columbus and Cleveland and now has 40,000 system wide students which is 3rd in the state behind OSU and Kent State. In Ohio the local universities schools are in the 15,000 to 20,000 so its pretty significant to have that system wide size.

There are really zero parallels to the Ohio and ULL situation with the exception of being located in unique cultural regions and good region wide support for a mid major school.

The University of Louisiana at Lafayette is not a Regional University. It is designated a Statewide University by the State of Louisiana. It is recognized as a Research University with High research activity by Carnegie, RU/H. Interestingly, that is the same Carnegie rating as Ohio University. We were a Regional University with a Regional Name but those days are done. I am very proud of how far we have come in the last 30 years Academically. Fans of ULM, Tulane and Louisiana Tech can cry all the tears they wish to but there is no turning back the clock. Our Computer Science, Biology, Nursing, Engineering and Business Programs take a back seat to no one. Our University in 1962 established the 1st Masters of Science Program in the U. S. It is ranked as one of the top 50 in the United States and the Faculty is top shelf. We are growing and will to continue to grow while some of the other public Universities in Louisiana face downsizing because of Budget cuts. We will be fine, we are the Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns.

Wait...I thought Louisiana was only being used for sports recognition as has been pointed out countless times here? You are talking about academics here so it's back to the UL-L Ragin' Cajuns. Most be a cool name change when you can't even keep track of who you are. It's awesome that you guys stick to your guns here and all and can respect that...I've just never understood the whole "only selling ourselves as Louisiana athletically." Why not go all in or all out?

Ok, lets talk sports when you look at the big 5 sports: football, men's and women's basketball, baseball and softball.

Louisiana Football: 9-4 with a 3rd straight New Orleans Bowl victory over Tulane.
Louisiana Basketball: Won the Sun Belt Conference Tourny and received the NCAA auto bid losing to Creighton, finished the year 23-12. Elfrid Peyton was named the Lefty Drisel National Defensive POY.
Louisiana Women's Basketball: Finished the season with a 14-16 record under 2nd year HC Gary Broadhead. The team is improving.
Louisiana Baseball: NUMBER 1 in the country sitting at 30-3. Enough said.
Louisiana Softball: Softball is 28-6-1 and ranked 17th and just starting to hit their stride.

(04-07-2014 09:48 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 09:12 AM)bearcatfan1211 Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 06:44 AM)swampbear Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 10:52 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 10:27 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Kittin:

I think Ohio and UL are more alike than either is to the 'leading' schools in their respective states. Both are schools that are greatly overshadowed by a much larger, and wealthier, state flagship.

No it doesn't work that way in Ohio. As I've said Ohio is a specialty public university in communications. It has the best school of communications period and overshadows Ohio State's journalism school.

Ohio State is a B1G research university but its professional schools aren't particularly strong. The best business school is at Miami with 3,000 out of 15,000 students majoring in business. Cincinnati has the best engineering school in the state with its 5 year mandatory co-op program.

Ohio and Miami also have two of the most highly rated campuses in the country as well. Ohio State has an average campus.

LSU is the main school for a poor state and its an OK school. Ohio State is a B1G research school in a large state with many other strong universities and private colleges. Ohio State doesn't dominate outright but manages things with alliances and Ohio is a close ally as the two schools share common interests.

Ohio just opened medical schools in Columbus and Cleveland and now has 40,000 system wide students which is 3rd in the state behind OSU and Kent State. In Ohio the local universities schools are in the 15,000 to 20,000 so its pretty significant to have that system wide size.

There are really zero parallels to the Ohio and ULL situation with the exception of being located in unique cultural regions and good region wide support for a mid major school.

The University of Louisiana at Lafayette is not a Regional University. It is designated a Statewide University by the State of Louisiana. It is recognized as a Research University with High research activity by Carnegie, RU/H. Interestingly, that is the same Carnegie rating as Ohio University. We were a Regional University with a Regional Name but those days are done. I am very proud of how far we have come in the last 30 years Academically. Fans of ULM, Tulane and Louisiana Tech can cry all the tears they wish to but there is no turning back the clock. Our Computer Science, Biology, Nursing, Engineering and Business Programs take a back seat to no one. Our University in 1962 established the 1st Masters of Science Program in the U. S. It is ranked as one of the top 50 in the United States and the Faculty is top shelf. We are growing and will to continue to grow while some of the other public Universities in Louisiana face downsizing because of Budget cuts. We will be fine, we are the Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns.

Wait...I thought Louisiana was only being used for sports recognition as has been pointed out countless times here? You are talking about academics here so it's back to the UL-L Ragin' Cajuns. Most be a cool name change when you can't even keep track of who you are. It's awesome that you guys stick to your guns here and all and can respect that...I've just never understood the whole "only selling ourselves as Louisiana athletically." Why not go all in or all out?

Ok, lets talk sports when you look at the big 5 sports: football, men's and women's basketball, baseball and softball.

Louisiana Football: 9-4 with a 3rd straight New Orleans Bowl victory over Tulane.
Louisiana Basketball: Won the Sun Belt Conference Tourny and received the NCAA auto bid losing to Creighton, finished the year 23-12. Elfrid Peyton was named the Lefty Drisel National Defensive POY.
Louisiana Women's Basketball: Finished the season with a 14-16 record under 2nd year HC Gary Broadhead. The team is improving.
Louisiana Baseball: NUMBER 1 in the country sitting at 30-3. Enough said.
Louisiana Softball: Softball is 28-6-1 and ranked 17th and just starting to hit their stride.

Those are great stats but not at all what I'm talking about. Several of your fellow fans have said before that you guys want to be known athletically only as the Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns. Why only athletically though? Swampbear's post was about the academic merits of your school, so shouldn't it say the UL-L cajuns in that instance? It just seems kind of confusing if you aren't going all in with the Louisiana name across the board.

You are still ranked a Tier 2 university by US News and World Report which all serious academic high school students rely on for admission to Ivy League and top Tier 1 universities nationally. The only Tier 1 universities in Louisiana are Louisiana Tech,LSU and Tulane. Also your SAT and ACT scores are low. You have been attempting to be a Tier 1 university for 30 years but sadly it has never happened. The gold standard for top prestigious research universities is the Association of American Universities with 60 top academic universities in the USA and two in Canada. Tulane is the only university in Louisiana that is a member.

(04-07-2014 10:05 AM)bearcatfan1211 Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 09:48 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 09:12 AM)bearcatfan1211 Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 06:44 AM)swampbear Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 10:52 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  No it doesn't work that way in Ohio. As I've said Ohio is a specialty public university in communications. It has the best school of communications period and overshadows Ohio State's journalism school.

Ohio State is a B1G research university but its professional schools aren't particularly strong. The best business school is at Miami with 3,000 out of 15,000 students majoring in business. Cincinnati has the best engineering school in the state with its 5 year mandatory co-op program.

Ohio and Miami also have two of the most highly rated campuses in the country as well. Ohio State has an average campus.

LSU is the main school for a poor state and its an OK school. Ohio State is a B1G research school in a large state with many other strong universities and private colleges. Ohio State doesn't dominate outright but manages things with alliances and Ohio is a close ally as the two schools share common interests.

Ohio just opened medical schools in Columbus and Cleveland and now has 40,000 system wide students which is 3rd in the state behind OSU and Kent State. In Ohio the local universities schools are in the 15,000 to 20,000 so its pretty significant to have that system wide size.

There are really zero parallels to the Ohio and ULL situation with the exception of being located in unique cultural regions and good region wide support for a mid major school.

The University of Louisiana at Lafayette is not a Regional University. It is designated a Statewide University by the State of Louisiana. It is recognized as a Research University with High research activity by Carnegie, RU/H. Interestingly, that is the same Carnegie rating as Ohio University. We were a Regional University with a Regional Name but those days are done. I am very proud of how far we have come in the last 30 years Academically. Fans of ULM, Tulane and Louisiana Tech can cry all the tears they wish to but there is no turning back the clock. Our Computer Science, Biology, Nursing, Engineering and Business Programs take a back seat to no one. Our University in 1962 established the 1st Masters of Science Program in the U. S. It is ranked as one of the top 50 in the United States and the Faculty is top shelf. We are growing and will to continue to grow while some of the other public Universities in Louisiana face downsizing because of Budget cuts. We will be fine, we are the Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns.

Wait...I thought Louisiana was only being used for sports recognition as has been pointed out countless times here? You are talking about academics here so it's back to the UL-L Ragin' Cajuns. Most be a cool name change when you can't even keep track of who you are. It's awesome that you guys stick to your guns here and all and can respect that...I've just never understood the whole "only selling ourselves as Louisiana athletically." Why not go all in or all out?

Ok, lets talk sports when you look at the big 5 sports: football, men's and women's basketball, baseball and softball.

Louisiana Football: 9-4 with a 3rd straight New Orleans Bowl victory over Tulane.
Louisiana Basketball: Won the Sun Belt Conference Tourny and received the NCAA auto bid losing to Creighton, finished the year 23-12. Elfrid Peyton was named the Lefty Drisel National Defensive POY.
Louisiana Women's Basketball: Finished the season with a 14-16 record under 2nd year HC Gary Broadhead. The team is improving.
Louisiana Baseball: NUMBER 1 in the country sitting at 30-3. Enough said.
Louisiana Softball: Softball is 28-6-1 and ranked 17th and just starting to hit their stride.

Those are great stats but not at all what I'm talking about. Several of your fellow fans have said before that you guys want to be known athletically only as the Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns. Why only athletically though? Swampbear's post was about the academic merits of your school, so shouldn't it say the UL-L cajuns in that instance? It just seems kind of confusing if you aren't going all in with the Louisiana name across the board.

This is a fan board and we are alumni and fans of our university. I am not a spokesman for the university nor am I employed there. When any of us post here about our university, we call it Louisiana or UL. We do not create a name issue, only people who for some unknown reason think we shouldn't be allowed to do that. I don't know why all the name police out there. No one outside of the university is bound by any name law. All local media in Lafayette call it the University of Louisiana, Louisiana and UL. All alumni and fans call it the same names. Athletically, it has branded itself as Louisiana. Can it also refer to itself as Louisiana academically. I would think so, although it does use its official name, the University of Louisiana at Lafayette on academic issues. But, this board is not about official university business. It is a fan board. We refer to our university as Louisiana and UL. There is no need to correct us to adhere to a name you feel we should be going by.

(04-07-2014 12:01 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 10:05 AM)bearcatfan1211 Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 09:48 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 09:12 AM)bearcatfan1211 Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 06:44 AM)swampbear Wrote:  The University of Louisiana at Lafayette is not a Regional University. It is designated a Statewide University by the State of Louisiana. It is recognized as a Research University with High research activity by Carnegie, RU/H. Interestingly, that is the same Carnegie rating as Ohio University. We were a Regional University with a Regional Name but those days are done. I am very proud of how far we have come in the last 30 years Academically. Fans of ULM, Tulane and Louisiana Tech can cry all the tears they wish to but there is no turning back the clock. Our Computer Science, Biology, Nursing, Engineering and Business Programs take a back seat to no one. Our University in 1962 established the 1st Masters of Science Program in the U. S. It is ranked as one of the top 50 in the United States and the Faculty is top shelf. We are growing and will to continue to grow while some of the other public Universities in Louisiana face downsizing because of Budget cuts. We will be fine, we are the Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns.

Wait...I thought Louisiana was only being used for sports recognition as has been pointed out countless times here? You are talking about academics here so it's back to the UL-L Ragin' Cajuns. Most be a cool name change when you can't even keep track of who you are. It's awesome that you guys stick to your guns here and all and can respect that...I've just never understood the whole "only selling ourselves as Louisiana athletically." Why not go all in or all out?

Ok, lets talk sports when you look at the big 5 sports: football, men's and women's basketball, baseball and softball.

Louisiana Football: 9-4 with a 3rd straight New Orleans Bowl victory over Tulane.
Louisiana Basketball: Won the Sun Belt Conference Tourny and received the NCAA auto bid losing to Creighton, finished the year 23-12. Elfrid Peyton was named the Lefty Drisel National Defensive POY.
Louisiana Women's Basketball: Finished the season with a 14-16 record under 2nd year HC Gary Broadhead. The team is improving.
Louisiana Baseball: NUMBER 1 in the country sitting at 30-3. Enough said.
Louisiana Softball: Softball is 28-6-1 and ranked 17th and just starting to hit their stride.

Those are great stats but not at all what I'm talking about. Several of your fellow fans have said before that you guys want to be known athletically only as the Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns. Why only athletically though? Swampbear's post was about the academic merits of your school, so shouldn't it say the UL-L cajuns in that instance? It just seems kind of confusing if you aren't going all in with the Louisiana name across the board.

This is a fan board and we are alumni and fans of our university. I am not a spokesman for the university nor am I employed there. When any of us post here about our university, we call it Louisiana or UL. We do not create a name issue, only people who for some unknown reason think we shouldn't be allowed to do that. I don't know why all the name police out there. No one outside of the university is bound by any name law. All local media in Lafayette call it the University of Louisiana, Louisiana and UL. All alumni and fans call it the same names. Athletically, it has branded itself as Louisiana. Can it also refer to itself as Louisiana academically. I would think so, although it does use its official name, the University of Louisiana at Lafayette on academic issues. But, this board is not about official university business. It is a fan board. We refer to our university as Louisiana and UL. There is no need to correct us to adhere to a name you feel we should be going by.

The bolded part above is what I'm wondering about though. Why not go all in with the name change and only leave it to athletics?

(04-07-2014 01:16 PM)bearcatfan1211 Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 12:01 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 10:05 AM)bearcatfan1211 Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 09:48 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 09:12 AM)bearcatfan1211 Wrote:  Wait...I thought Louisiana was only being used for sports recognition as has been pointed out countless times here? You are talking about academics here so it's back to the UL-L Ragin' Cajuns. Most be a cool name change when you can't even keep track of who you are. It's awesome that you guys stick to your guns here and all and can respect that...I've just never understood the whole "only selling ourselves as Louisiana athletically." Why not go all in or all out?

Ok, lets talk sports when you look at the big 5 sports: football, men's and women's basketball, baseball and softball.

Louisiana Football: 9-4 with a 3rd straight New Orleans Bowl victory over Tulane.
Louisiana Basketball: Won the Sun Belt Conference Tourny and received the NCAA auto bid losing to Creighton, finished the year 23-12. Elfrid Peyton was named the Lefty Drisel National Defensive POY.
Louisiana Women's Basketball: Finished the season with a 14-16 record under 2nd year HC Gary Broadhead. The team is improving.
Louisiana Baseball: NUMBER 1 in the country sitting at 30-3. Enough said.
Louisiana Softball: Softball is 28-6-1 and ranked 17th and just starting to hit their stride.

Those are great stats but not at all what I'm talking about. Several of your fellow fans have said before that you guys want to be known athletically only as the Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns. Why only athletically though? Swampbear's post was about the academic merits of your school, so shouldn't it say the UL-L cajuns in that instance? It just seems kind of confusing if you aren't going all in with the Louisiana name across the board.

This is a fan board and we are alumni and fans of our university. I am not a spokesman for the university nor am I employed there. When any of us post here about our university, we call it Louisiana or UL. We do not create a name issue, only people who for some unknown reason think we shouldn't be allowed to do that. I don't know why all the name police out there. No one outside of the university is bound by any name law. All local media in Lafayette call it the University of Louisiana, Louisiana and UL. All alumni and fans call it the same names. Athletically, it has branded itself as Louisiana. Can it also refer to itself as Louisiana academically. I would think so, although it does use its official name, the University of Louisiana at Lafayette on academic issues. But, this board is not about official university business. It is a fan board. We refer to our university as Louisiana and UL. There is no need to correct us to adhere to a name you feel we should be going by.

The bolded part above is what I'm wondering about though. Why not go all in with the name change and only leave it to athletics?

I don't know specifically why it does not. Understand the athletic branding only came about in the past year, so it is still developing. There are a lot of insane politics in Louisiana, so there is a lot of water we have to navigate through. It will take time for recognition and acceptance as Louisiana nationally. As we continue to have athletic success like our 3 straight bowl wins and #1 ranking in baseball, it will take care of itself. I think it will eventually take on a reference both athletically and academically. Fan boards are a different animal. Fans with no stake in what we do or call ourselves, will have individuals with very subjective opinions on what we should call ourselves. Very little, if any, of what we as fans say on a fan board has any bearing on what a university or the media will do. But, it sure can be infuriating and turns defensive when someone tries to make us into something they think we are or should be or posts misleading facts to try and diminish the accomplishments of the university. And, for what purpose? Take the thread on Louisiana's Elfred Payton being named the national defensive player of the year. Not one post about the accomplishment. It was instead turned into a name thread because someone didn't like my use of Louisiana and UL. I don't care if someone wants to call us Louisiana Lafayette or UL-L. I have no control over that. I do have control over what I want to call my university as a fan and alumnus.