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RE: Hillary Clinton Early Presidential Favorite in Iowa Poll: What the H_ll?
(03-14-2014 03:20 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-14-2014 02:20 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(03-13-2014 07:12 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(03-13-2014 04:09 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Yes, Hillary, the great Democrat hope.
Come on down Hillary, we dare you.

But you don't give a poop about the Americans that died in the embassy attacks under Bush, or the thousands killed in the lie of a war in Iraq, do you?


Hell, even though I suck lots of dick, I understand that everyone with credibility above one point thinks Benghazi is a criminal act, a cover-up act. BTW, Apps, I sure wish you were single and ready to mingle. My boyfriend left me because I got caught in a threesome with two other guys.

Last I saw, credibility meant the quality of being trusted... So I fixed your post.

Changing someone else's words to make them look gay? How old are you?

And still with the fascination of male genitalia?

Quit being a total dumb ass.

I'm 35. He IS gay, and I already apologized for accusing you of being gay so you can politely jump back OFF my nutts now. Thanks in advance. 01-lauramac2
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RE: Hillary Clinton Early Presidential Favorite in Iowa Poll: What the H_ll?
(03-14-2014 02:09 PM)Smaug Wrote:  
(03-14-2014 01:53 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-14-2014 12:06 PM)Smaug Wrote:  
(03-14-2014 11:35 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  There isn't a fixation.

You cannot be serious.

You live in the bubble. Sucks to be you.

Yeah, planet Earth.

I'm not directing this at you Smaug, but at the board in general

Guys, you really do need to understand a bit more about the country you live in. College football fans, and especially those on a largely southern based board, are going to trend towards those that are white and male. White males tend to be Conservative. Southern White Males tend to be very Conservative.

But you guys aren't the majority. Germantown, Shelby Co. (Ala) or The Woodlands is not representative of the US. I would suspect that many of you don't have a lot of friends that are not Republicans and haven't spent much time in groupings where Democrats predominate. Many of you appear to not believe anything you hear in the media unless it comes from FOX or World Net Daily.

I think that its important to look at the last couple of electoral cycles. More Americans have voted for a Democratic Candidate for President than a Republican one in 1992, 1996, 2000, 2008, and 2012. So in the last 24 years or 6 elections, the GOP has achieved a majority in exactly one of those elections. More Americans have voted for Democrats for US Senate than Republicans 2000, 2006, 2008, 2010, and 2012 (5 of the last 7 and 4 cycles in a row). US House? Dems won the raw vote in 2006, 2008, and 2012 ( 3 of the last 4).

When presented with that reality, the response of many in here isn't "who are the voters and how can we make ourselves relevant to them", but rather "they are stupid freeloaders, feminazis, queers, racial preference queens, or illegal immigrants". That message isn't going to convince many to even listen to the GOP. And its not just from people on this board, but by your candidates.

In 2016, we will be subjected to yet another clown car GOP primary where the most extreme candidates imaginable will reinforce that perception of the GOP in a six month long season of 30 debates. By the time the GOP swings back to a candidate, that candidate will have a long list of platform positions that are exceedingly unpopular with large segments of the population. And HRC will hammer them on it.

In short, the Democrats are the majority party in this country. Its up to the GOP to sell us on why we should listen to you guys. In order for the GOP to do so, they're gonna need to step out of their bubble (and no, finding someone of the 5% of Blacks that supports the GOP isn't going to work very well either).

The GOP is in a bubble. Something isn't working for you guys. And to be honest, if you guys think you can sell Ted Cruz (or Marco Rubio) to Hispanic Americans, you're nuts. If you think you can sell voting against Lilly Ledbetter to women, you're nuts. If you think you can sell Rand Paul to middle class Americans, you're nuts.
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RE: Hillary Clinton Early Presidential Favorite in Iowa Poll: What the H_ll?
(03-14-2014 03:29 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(03-14-2014 02:09 PM)Smaug Wrote:  
(03-14-2014 01:53 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-14-2014 12:06 PM)Smaug Wrote:  
(03-14-2014 11:35 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  There isn't a fixation.

You cannot be serious.

You live in the bubble. Sucks to be you.

Yeah, planet Earth.

I'm not directing this at you Smaug, but at the board in general

Guys, you really do need to understand a bit more about the country you live in. College football fans, and especially those on a largely southern based board, are going to trend towards those that are white and male. White males tend to be Conservative. Southern White Males tend to be very Conservative.

But you guys aren't the majority. Germantown, Shelby Co. (Ala) or The Woodlands is not representative of the US. I would suspect that many of you don't have a lot of friends that are not Republicans and haven't spent much time in groupings where Democrats predominate. Many of you appear to not believe anything you hear in the media unless it comes from FOX or World Net Daily.

I think that its important to look at the last couple of electoral cycles. More Americans have voted for a Democratic Candidate for President than a Republican one in 1992, 1996, 2000, 2008, and 2012. So in the last 24 years or 6 elections, the GOP has achieved a majority in exactly one of those elections. More Americans have voted for Democrats for US Senate than Republicans 2000, 2006, 2008, 2010, and 2012 (5 of the last 7 and 4 cycles in a row). US House? Dems won the raw vote in 2006, 2008, and 2012 ( 3 of the last 4).

When presented with that reality, the response of many in here isn't "who are the voters and how can we make ourselves relevant to them", but rather "they are stupid freeloaders, feminazis, queers, racial preference queens, or illegal immigrants". That message isn't going to convince many to even listen to the GOP. And its not just from people on this board, but by your candidates.

In 2016, we will be subjected to yet another clown car GOP primary where the most extreme candidates imaginable will reinforce that perception of the GOP in a six month long season of 30 debates. By the time the GOP swings back to a candidate, that candidate will have a long list of platform positions that are exceedingly unpopular with large segments of the population. And HRC will hammer them on it.

In short, the Democrats are the majority party in this country. Its up to the GOP to sell us on why we should listen to you guys. In order for the GOP to do so, they're gonna need to step out of their bubble (and no, finding someone of the 5% of Blacks that supports the GOP isn't going to work very well either).

The GOP is in a bubble. Something isn't working for you guys. And to be honest, if you guys think you can sell Ted Cruz (or Marco Rubio) to Hispanic Americans, you're nuts. If you think you can sell voting against Lilly Ledbetter to women, you're nuts. If you think you can sell Rand Paul to middle class Americans, you're nuts.

Ridiculous. I stopped reading after this part.
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RE: Hillary Clinton Early Presidential Favorite in Iowa Poll: What the H_ll?
Illegal immigrants can't vote. It is not The Woodlands, it's the Whitelands. A little racial humor.

Democrats can't continue to win by f*ucking everything up and lying about it. Americans are seeing that Democrats are using the Enron book of ethics, they get it, and Dems have no one to blame but themselves. No matter how often Dems point to Republicans as the cause of all the ills of their world, Americans are rejecting it. Its too overused. The Blaming Bush dog don't hunt.
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RE: Hillary Clinton Early Presidential Favorite in Iowa Poll: What the H_ll?
(03-14-2014 03:27 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(03-14-2014 03:20 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-14-2014 02:20 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(03-13-2014 07:12 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(03-13-2014 04:09 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Yes, Hillary, the great Democrat hope.
Come on down Hillary, we dare you.

But you don't give a poop about the Americans that died in the embassy attacks under Bush, or the thousands killed in the lie of a war in Iraq, do you?


Hell, even though I suck lots of dick, I understand that everyone with credibility above one point thinks Benghazi is a criminal act, a cover-up act. BTW, Apps, I sure wish you were single and ready to mingle. My boyfriend left me because I got caught in a threesome with two other guys.

Last I saw, credibility meant the quality of being trusted... So I fixed your post.

Changing someone else's words to make them look gay? How old are you?

And still with the fascination of male genitalia?

Quit being a total dumb ass.

I'm 35. He IS gay, and I already apologized for accusing you of being gay so you can politely jump back OFF my nutts now. Thanks in advance. 01-lauramac2

Wow...I guess I missed that one. 04-jawdrop
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(03-14-2014 03:50 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Illegal immigrants can't vote. It is not The Woodlands, it's the Whitelands. A little racial humor.

Democrats can't continue to win by f*ucking everything up and lying about it. Americans are seeing that Democrats are using the Enron book of ethics, they get it, and Dems have no one to blame but themselves. No matter how often Dems point to Republicans as the cause of all the ills of their world, Americans are rejecting it. Its too overused. The Blaming Bush dog don't hunt.

Wow. You're really detached from reality aren't you?
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RE: Hillary Clinton Early Presidential Favorite in Iowa Poll: What the H_ll?
(03-14-2014 03:59 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-14-2014 03:27 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(03-14-2014 03:20 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-14-2014 02:20 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(03-13-2014 07:12 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  But you don't give a poop about the Americans that died in the embassy attacks under Bush, or the thousands killed in the lie of a war in Iraq, do you?


Hell, even though I suck lots of dick, I understand that everyone with credibility above one point thinks Benghazi is a criminal act, a cover-up act. BTW, Apps, I sure wish you were single and ready to mingle. My boyfriend left me because I got caught in a threesome with two other guys.

Last I saw, credibility meant the quality of being trusted... So I fixed your post.

Changing someone else's words to make them look gay? How old are you?

And still with the fascination of male genitalia?

Quit being a total dumb ass.

I'm 35. He IS gay, and I already apologized for accusing you of being gay so you can politely jump back OFF my nutts now. Thanks in advance. 01-lauramac2

Wow...I guess I missed that one. 04-jawdrop

Bullhonkey, when I said you were and you told me you'd never said you were, I told you that if you aren't then I apologize for the accusation... Gee whiz man. 05-mafia
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Sorry...like I said...I must have missed it. I don't always read every post on every thread.
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(03-14-2014 04:27 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Sorry...like I said...I must have missed it. I don't always read every post on every thread.

It's cool RW... It was in direct response to you but THAAAATS ok, at least you know now... Have a good weekend, I'm outta here... 04-cheers
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RE: Hillary Clinton Early Presidential Favorite in Iowa Poll: What the H_ll?
(03-14-2014 03:50 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Illegal immigrants can't vote. It is not The Woodlands, it's the Whitelands. A little racial humor.

Democrats can't continue to win by f*ucking everything up and lying about it. Americans are seeing that Democrats are using the Enron book of ethics, they get it, and Dems have no one to blame but themselves. No matter how often Dems point to Republicans as the cause of all the ills of their world, Americans are rejecting it. Its too overused. The Blaming Bush dog don't hunt.

Actually the Woodlands is turning into a nice enclave for wealthy Mexicans immigrants to the USA. But Montgomery Co. as a whole, sure.
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RE: Hillary Clinton Early Presidential Favorite in Iowa Poll: What the H_ll?
With friends like Killary, who needs enemies?

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RE: Hillary Clinton Early Presidential Favorite in Iowa Poll: What the H_ll?
Got this in an email.


In a news conference Deanna Favre announced she wishes to be the starting QB for the Packers next season. Deanna asserts that she is qualified to be the starting QB because she has spent the past 16 years married to Brett while he played QB for the Packers.

During this period of time, she became familiar with the definition of a corner blitz, the nickel package, and man-to-man coverage, so she is now completely comfortable with all the other terminology involving the Packers offense. A survey of Packers fans shows that 50% of those polled supported the move.

Does this sounds idiotic and unbelievable or familiar to you?

Hillary Clinton makes the same claims as to why she is qualified to be President and 50% of Democrats polled agreed. She has never run a City, County, or State during her "career" of being Bill Clinton's wife.

When told Hillary Clinton has experience because she has 8 years in the white house, my immediate thought was "So has the pastry chef". When it comes to running the state department, her biggest achievement was getting a US Ambassador and 3 other Americans killed by pretending terrorism had been defeated.

On the other hand, she does have more experience than Obama had.
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RE: Hillary Clinton Early Presidential Favorite in Iowa Poll: What the H_ll?
Wait until the story of Hillary starts to unwind from Illinois, through Arkansas and beyond. Unwind it will, with full fury and fire.

The Iowans are known to be down right stubborn. But even they can get the word. They lost Maytag to their stubborn UAW union ways. IDIOTS TO THE END.
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(03-16-2014 08:32 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Got this in an email.


In a news conference Deanna Favre announced she wishes to be the starting QB for the Packers next season. Deanna asserts that she is qualified to be the starting QB because she has spent the past 16 years married to Brett while he played QB for the Packers.

During this period of time, she became familiar with the definition of a corner blitz, the nickel package, and man-to-man coverage, so she is now completely comfortable with all the other terminology involving the Packers offense. A survey of Packers fans shows that 50% of those polled supported the move.

Does this sounds idiotic and unbelievable or familiar to you?

Hillary Clinton makes the same claims as to why she is qualified to be President and 50% of Democrats polled agreed. She has never run a City, County, or State during her "career" of being Bill Clinton's wife.

When told Hillary Clinton has experience because she has 8 years in the white house, my immediate thought was "So has the pastry chef". When it comes to running the state department, her biggest achievement was getting a US Ambassador and 3 other Americans killed by pretending terrorism had been defeated.

On the other hand, she does have more experience than Obama had.

you have to find the audio at the Florida Dem. Meeting. One of the reports for POLITICO (of all groups) went down and asked them who they were supporting. The answer was Hillary over and over. Then he asked what her qualifications were.

You would have died at the answers and the hemming and hawing. Especially when he asked the ones who said "She was Sect of State", what was her best action as SoS.... it was absolutely priceless.
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(03-14-2014 10:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  The point I made Smaug was that she is as equally qualified as all the others. So why are you bothering to even ask the question that you didn't ask of anyone else?

And if I answered your question, I'd just describe nearly all the same exact things that made all those others qualified. And then you'd dismiss it and want more. So there is no point.

This. 07-coffee3
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In the end, "electability" is relative. In all elections, it completely depends who candidate X is running against. If the GOP insists on letting clowns like Santorum/Cain/Bachmann/etc shape the primary like they did in 2012, then Hillary could start moving into the west wing next year.
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(03-17-2014 09:37 AM)Hitch Wrote:  In the end, "electability" is relative. In all elections, it completely depends who candidate X is running against. If the GOP insists on letting clowns like Santorum/Cain/Bachmann/etc shape the primary like they did in 2012, then Hillary could start moving into the west wing next year.

+1

'cept that she would be moving in 2017. 03-wink
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(03-17-2014 09:56 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-17-2014 09:37 AM)Hitch Wrote:  In the end, "electability" is relative. In all elections, it completely depends who candidate X is running against. If the GOP insists on letting clowns like Santorum/Cain/Bachmann/etc shape the primary like they did in 2012, then Hillary could start moving into the west wing next year.

+1

'cept that she would be moving in 2017. 03-wink

The "moving in" reference was to indicate that the general election would be a formality.

Rand Paul Ryan (ha!) could mount a viable challenge if they play their cards right and not pander to the base too much.
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(03-17-2014 09:37 AM)Hitch Wrote:  In the end, "electability" is relative. In all elections, it completely depends who candidate X is running against. If the GOP insists on letting clowns like Santorum/Cain/Bachmann/etc shape the primary like they did in 2012, then Hillary could start moving into the west wing next year.

*sigh*

One more time. And AFTER she's elected? Then what?

Sleazy lawyer
Invisible senator
Incompetent Secretary of State

What kind of president will she be?
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(03-17-2014 10:04 AM)Smaug Wrote:  
(03-17-2014 09:37 AM)Hitch Wrote:  In the end, "electability" is relative. In all elections, it completely depends who candidate X is running against. If the GOP insists on letting clowns like Santorum/Cain/Bachmann/etc shape the primary like they did in 2012, then Hillary could start moving into the west wing next year.

*sigh*

One more time. And AFTER she's elected? Then what?

Sleazy lawyer
Invisible senator
Incompetent Secretary of State

What kind of president will she be?

I'm not arguing for her, I'm saying that if the GOP doesn't put up a viable alternative, what choice will voters have?
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