(03-11-2014 07:06 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(03-11-2014 07:03 PM)memphisike Wrote:  WWW is a good Dude, i hope he is helping us, we need it. WWW and BRUCE PEARL could bring in a couple top tens and a title!!!

Seriously, STFU about Bruce Pearl. We have been ranked in the top 25 the entire season. That is better than MOST of Pearl's teams at UT. Bruce Pearl has no business EVER EVER EVER being the coach at the University of Memphis.

I have no problem with Pearl - he is a master communicator and motivator, as well as a good game-time coach. If we didn't have Josh, I would certainly be on the bandwagon to hire him. There's not a better, available coach out there who would consider coming to Memphis.

(03-12-2014 03:03 PM)presskh Wrote:  

(03-11-2014 07:06 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(03-11-2014 07:03 PM)memphisike Wrote:  WWW is a good Dude, i hope he is helping us, we need it. WWW and BRUCE PEARL could bring in a couple top tens and a title!!!

Seriously, STFU about Bruce Pearl. We have been ranked in the top 25 the entire season. That is better than MOST of Pearl's teams at UT. Bruce Pearl has no business EVER EVER EVER being the coach at the University of Memphis.

I have no problem with Pearl - he is a master communicator and motivator, as well as a good game-time coach. If we didn't have Josh, I would certainly be on the bandwagon to hire him. There's not a better, available coach out there who would consider coming to Memphis.

Not to rehash the old argument but do you really want, right after we got off NCAA probation, to hire a coach who is just getting out of NCAA show cause?

(03-12-2014 02:57 PM)presskh Wrote:  

(03-11-2014 11:43 AM)memphis88 Wrote:  

(03-08-2014 04:51 PM)ricovig Wrote:  Was with Michael Kidd Gilchrst and Michael Jordan's son after the game at the westin.

Why was MJ's son there?

(03-10-2014 08:51 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  I'm new to this whole basketball recruiting but what I hear what Baylor is doing I have to ask how have they not been busted? I also saw a HBO special and I am drawing a blank on the kids name but basically agents and the NCAA screwed him.

It is amazing how somebody who is as widely considered dirty as Drew is hasn't been busted for something. I mean, EVERYONE thinks he's dirty.
R

(03-10-2014 10:41 PM)transitt Wrote:  I know some want Josh to be as dirty as our previous coach to make themselves feel better about old friends but Josh is one of the cleaner big time recruiters out there today.

Josh is a really good recruiter; though some on here make it their mission to downplay anything he does right; including the graduation rate.

Just because he's one of the cleanest doesn't mean he's completely clean. You ever hear GP talk about JP and recruiting? He is one of the cleanest, but I think some on here (like you, apparently) would be surprised by what he does to get his guys. I just don't believe that someone can be completely clean and excel at recruiting like Josh has, especially when you consider his relative lack of experience. I think it's sort of like how Josh doesn't cuss but he says hell because he doesn't consider it a curse. Well, I'm sure there have been some upset folks when he's said it on the radio even if it's clearly not as bad as saying **** or ****. He may not break the rules, but he likely gets as close as can be and might even step over the line of what some deem ethical.

Josh's job is to get the best players he can while still staying just inside NCAA rules - just like every other coach.

yep and I am not sure why saying so pisses so many people on this board off. I would be more pissed off if I was them and thought he was not doing this.

(03-12-2014 04:43 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 02:57 PM)presskh Wrote:  

(03-11-2014 11:43 AM)memphis88 Wrote:  

(03-08-2014 04:51 PM)ricovig Wrote:  Was with Michael Kidd Gilchrst and Michael Jordan's son after the game at the westin.

Why was MJ's son there?

(03-10-2014 08:51 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  I'm new to this whole basketball recruiting but what I hear what Baylor is doing I have to ask how have they not been busted? I also saw a HBO special and I am drawing a blank on the kids name but basically agents and the NCAA screwed him.

It is amazing how somebody who is as widely considered dirty as Drew is hasn't been busted for something. I mean, EVERYONE thinks he's dirty.
R

(03-10-2014 10:41 PM)transitt Wrote:  I know some want Josh to be as dirty as our previous coach to make themselves feel better about old friends but Josh is one of the cleaner big time recruiters out there today.

Josh is a really good recruiter; though some on here make it their mission to downplay anything he does right; including the graduation rate.

Just because he's one of the cleanest doesn't mean he's completely clean. You ever hear GP talk about JP and recruiting? He is one of the cleanest, but I think some on here (like you, apparently) would be surprised by what he does to get his guys. I just don't believe that someone can be completely clean and excel at recruiting like Josh has, especially when you consider his relative lack of experience. I think it's sort of like how Josh doesn't cuss but he says hell because he doesn't consider it a curse. Well, I'm sure there have been some upset folks when he's said it on the radio even if it's clearly not as bad as saying **** or ****. He may not break the rules, but he likely gets as close as can be and might even step over the line of what some deem ethical.

Josh's job is to get the best players he can while still staying just inside NCAA rules - just like every other coach.

yep and I am not sure why saying so pisses so many people on this board off. I would be more pissed off if I was them and thought he was not doing this.

There's a lot of naïveté out there.

(03-13-2014 09:59 AM)Downtown Tiger Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 04:43 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 02:57 PM)presskh Wrote:  

(03-11-2014 11:43 AM)memphis88 Wrote:  

(03-08-2014 04:51 PM)ricovig Wrote:  Was with Michael Kidd Gilchrst and Michael Jordan's son after the game at the westin.

Why was MJ's son there?

(03-10-2014 08:51 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  I'm new to this whole basketball recruiting but what I hear what Baylor is doing I have to ask how have they not been busted? I also saw a HBO special and I am drawing a blank on the kids name but basically agents and the NCAA screwed him.

It is amazing how somebody who is as widely considered dirty as Drew is hasn't been busted for something. I mean, EVERYONE thinks he's dirty.
R

(03-10-2014 10:41 PM)transitt Wrote:  I know some want Josh to be as dirty as our previous coach to make themselves feel better about old friends but Josh is one of the cleaner big time recruiters out there today.

Josh is a really good recruiter; though some on here make it their mission to downplay anything he does right; including the graduation rate.

Just because he's one of the cleanest doesn't mean he's completely clean. You ever hear GP talk about JP and recruiting? He is one of the cleanest, but I think some on here (like you, apparently) would be surprised by what he does to get his guys. I just don't believe that someone can be completely clean and excel at recruiting like Josh has, especially when you consider his relative lack of experience. I think it's sort of like how Josh doesn't cuss but he says hell because he doesn't consider it a curse. Well, I'm sure there have been some upset folks when he's said it on the radio even if it's clearly not as bad as saying **** or ****. He may not break the rules, but he likely gets as close as can be and might even step over the line of what some deem ethical.

Josh's job is to get the best players he can while still staying just inside NCAA rules - just like every other coach.

yep and I am not sure why saying so pisses so many people on this board off. I would be more pissed off if I was them and thought he was not doing this.

There's a lot of naïveté out there.

Is my stating that Josh is one of the cleaner recruiters out there naïve? Do you have knowledge of NCAA violations that Josh is committing? If so, tell the school so they can self report. Does Josh work the gray area as well as anyone? Sure he does. Is he dirty like Calipari or Pearl? No.

As one of the few on here who has seen the recruiting process first hand (albeit many years ago) I know what goes on. I also know about things that happen that the coach cannot possibly control of have knowledge of. That's what Calipari has done so masterfully. He has the network set up where it would be very hard to trace things back to him and even harder to get people to talk (ask Parrish about that).
One person on here used the Will Barton recruitment to make Pastner look dirty. If you have evidence, spill it. Otherwise, STFU.

(03-13-2014 10:18 AM)transitt Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 09:59 AM)Downtown Tiger Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 04:43 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 02:57 PM)presskh Wrote:  

(03-11-2014 11:43 AM)memphis88 Wrote:  Why was MJ's son there?


It is amazing how somebody who is as widely considered dirty as Drew is hasn't been busted for something. I mean, EVERYONE thinks he's dirty.
R

Just because he's one of the cleanest doesn't mean he's completely clean. You ever hear GP talk about JP and recruiting? He is one of the cleanest, but I think some on here (like you, apparently) would be surprised by what he does to get his guys. I just don't believe that someone can be completely clean and excel at recruiting like Josh has, especially when you consider his relative lack of experience. I think it's sort of like how Josh doesn't cuss but he says hell because he doesn't consider it a curse. Well, I'm sure there have been some upset folks when he's said it on the radio even if it's clearly not as bad as saying **** or ****. He may not break the rules, but he likely gets as close as can be and might even step over the line of what some deem ethical.

Josh's job is to get the best players he can while still staying just inside NCAA rules - just like every other coach.

yep and I am not sure why saying so pisses so many people on this board off. I would be more pissed off if I was them and thought he was not doing this.

There's a lot of naïveté out there.

Is my stating that Josh is one of the cleaner recruiters out there naïve? Do you have knowledge of NCAA violations that Josh is committing? If so, tell the school so they can self report. Does Josh work the gray area as well as anyone? Sure he does. Is he dirty like Calipari or Pearl? No.

As one of the few on here who has seen the recruiting process first hand (albeit many years ago) I know what goes on. I also know about things that happen that the coach cannot possibly control of have knowledge of. That's what Calipari has done so masterfully. He has the network set up where it would be very hard to trace things back to him and even harder to get people to talk (ask Parrish about that).
One person on here used the Will Barton recruitment to make Pastner look dirty. If you have evidence, spill it. Otherwise, STFU.

Thanks. Good post. Cal is all about the "Blue Chips".

(03-13-2014 10:18 AM)transitt Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 09:59 AM)Downtown Tiger Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 04:43 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 02:57 PM)presskh Wrote:  

(03-11-2014 11:43 AM)memphis88 Wrote:  Why was MJ's son there?


It is amazing how somebody who is as widely considered dirty as Drew is hasn't been busted for something. I mean, EVERYONE thinks he's dirty.
R

Just because he's one of the cleanest doesn't mean he's completely clean. You ever hear GP talk about JP and recruiting? He is one of the cleanest, but I think some on here (like you, apparently) would be surprised by what he does to get his guys. I just don't believe that someone can be completely clean and excel at recruiting like Josh has, especially when you consider his relative lack of experience. I think it's sort of like how Josh doesn't cuss but he says hell because he doesn't consider it a curse. Well, I'm sure there have been some upset folks when he's said it on the radio even if it's clearly not as bad as saying **** or ****. He may not break the rules, but he likely gets as close as can be and might even step over the line of what some deem ethical.

Josh's job is to get the best players he can while still staying just inside NCAA rules - just like every other coach.

yep and I am not sure why saying so pisses so many people on this board off. I would be more pissed off if I was them and thought he was not doing this.

There's a lot of naïveté out there.

Is my stating that Josh is one of the cleaner recruiters out there naïve? Do you have knowledge of NCAA violations that Josh is committing? If so, tell the school so they can self report. Does Josh work the gray area as well as anyone? Sure he does. Is he dirty like Calipari or Pearl? No.

As one of the few on here who has seen the recruiting process first hand (albeit many years ago) I know what goes on. I also know about things that happen that the coach cannot possibly control of have knowledge of. That's what Calipari has done so masterfully. He has the network set up where it would be very hard to trace things back to him and even harder to get people to talk (ask Parrish about that).
One person on here used the Will Barton recruitment to make Pastner look dirty. If you have evidence, spill it. Otherwise, STFU.

When you don't have facts, you fall back on innuendo. When you want to cause trouble, make ridiculous statements and then blame it on some nebulous source, like 'the street', that nobody can verify. When confronted with facts, change the subject.

(03-10-2014 08:57 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(03-10-2014 08:53 PM)Rob Wrote:  

(03-10-2014 08:43 PM)dan o Wrote:  

(03-08-2014 03:01 PM)Rob Wrote:  

(03-08-2014 02:57 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  Larry Brown is legendary and all, but they sure did turn things around drastically in almost no time at all after sucking forever. I wonder how ?

By getting big time Texas talent to stay home and getting Nic Moore as a transfer. Also having one of the best coaches ever doesn't hurt.

I have a queasy feeling that it was a little more sleazy than that.

If the things you assume went on and that makes you queasy then college basketball recruiting probably isn't your thing. Every team is doing what they have to do to get players.

not Josh. Guys like Will Barton come all the way from Baltimore for the BBQ and the airport.

Tell us all why Will Barton came here.

(03-10-2014 04:30 PM)tigerscane Wrote:  Wes was there for Josh and staff,and has been for sometime....they are friends for crying out loud.... they are still friends ok.....Nothing more nothing less.....One Dream, One Team, Memphis....All for one, One for all, All for Memphis....The World Is Ours Memphis....

Lmao

(03-13-2014 10:18 AM)transitt Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 09:59 AM)Downtown Tiger Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 04:43 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 02:57 PM)presskh Wrote:  

(03-11-2014 11:43 AM)memphis88 Wrote:  Why was MJ's son there?


It is amazing how somebody who is as widely considered dirty as Drew is hasn't been busted for something. I mean, EVERYONE thinks he's dirty.
R

Just because he's one of the cleanest doesn't mean he's completely clean. You ever hear GP talk about JP and recruiting? He is one of the cleanest, but I think some on here (like you, apparently) would be surprised by what he does to get his guys. I just don't believe that someone can be completely clean and excel at recruiting like Josh has, especially when you consider his relative lack of experience. I think it's sort of like how Josh doesn't cuss but he says hell because he doesn't consider it a curse. Well, I'm sure there have been some upset folks when he's said it on the radio even if it's clearly not as bad as saying **** or ****. He may not break the rules, but he likely gets as close as can be and might even step over the line of what some deem ethical.

Josh's job is to get the best players he can while still staying just inside NCAA rules - just like every other coach.

yep and I am not sure why saying so pisses so many people on this board off. I would be more pissed off if I was them and thought he was not doing this.

There's a lot of naïveté out there.

Is my stating that Josh is one of the cleaner recruiters out there naïve? Do you have knowledge of NCAA violations that Josh is committing? If so, tell the school so they can self report. Does Josh work the gray area as well as anyone? Sure he does. Is he dirty like Calipari or Pearl? No.

As one of the few on here who has seen the recruiting process first hand (albeit many years ago) I know what goes on. I also know about things that happen that the coach cannot possibly control of have knowledge of. That's what Calipari has done so masterfully. He has the network set up where it would be very hard to trace things back to him and even harder to get people to talk (ask Parrish about that).
One person on here used the Will Barton recruitment to make Pastner look dirty. If you have evidence, spill it. Otherwise, STFU.

You just contradicted yourself and probably did not realize it. Could you please provide a link to when cal got in trouble with the ncaa? If not how about you STFU.

(03-13-2014 01:48 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 10:18 AM)transitt Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 09:59 AM)Downtown Tiger Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 04:43 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 02:57 PM)presskh Wrote:  Josh's job is to get the best players he can while still staying just inside NCAA rules - just like every other coach.

yep and I am not sure why saying so pisses so many people on this board off. I would be more pissed off if I was them and thought he was not doing this.

There's a lot of naïveté out there.

Is my stating that Josh is one of the cleaner recruiters out there naïve? Do you have knowledge of NCAA violations that Josh is committing? If so, tell the school so they can self report. Does Josh work the gray area as well as anyone? Sure he does. Is he dirty like Calipari or Pearl? No.

As one of the few on here who has seen the recruiting process first hand (albeit many years ago) I know what goes on. I also know about things that happen that the coach cannot possibly control of have knowledge of. That's what Calipari has done so masterfully. He has the network set up where it would be very hard to trace things back to him and even harder to get people to talk (ask Parrish about that).
One person on here used the Will Barton recruitment to make Pastner look dirty. If you have evidence, spill it. Otherwise, STFU.

You just contradicted yourself and probably did not realize it. Could you please provide a link to when cal got in trouble with the ncaa? If not how about you STFU.

Why did Will Barton come here? Let's hear the story.

(03-13-2014 10:18 AM)transitt Wrote:  As one of the few on here who has seen the recruiting process first hand (albeit many years ago) I know what goes on.

You write that ^^^
and
You write this below:

(03-13-2014 10:18 AM)transitt Wrote:  Josh is one of the cleaner big time recruiters out there today.

You admit you haven't been "involved" (whatever that means) in the recruiting process in many years, yet you "know" JP is clean. Not saying he isn't, just that you are not speaking from 1st hand knowledge. Is it $10 stuff that makes you so sure?

Funny thing is, just like Cal, the minute JP bolts, all of his "harbortown's" and "WWW's" will be thrown out for public speculation to destroy him and build up the next white knight who takes over the program.

(03-08-2014 12:04 PM)bobby jo Wrote:  Liasion for Cal. they want to come back home.

Did he bring the sno cone machine?

(03-13-2014 02:39 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 10:18 AM)transitt Wrote:  As one of the few on here who has seen the recruiting process first hand (albeit many years ago) I know what goes on.

You write that ^^^
and
You write this below:

(03-13-2014 10:18 AM)transitt Wrote:  Josh is one of the cleaner big time recruiters out there today.

You admit you haven't been "involved" (whatever that means) in the recruiting process in many years, yet you "know" JP is clean. Not saying he isn't, just that you are not speaking from 1st hand knowledge. Is it $10 stuff that makes you so sure?

Funny thing is, just like Cal, the minute JP bolts, all of his "harbortown's" and "WWW's" will be thrown out for public speculation to destroy him and build up the next white knight who takes over the program.

Not if Josh doesn't try to burn the program to the ground on the way out the door. It's been said repeatedly and I don't know why it's so hard to understand. It wasn't THAT Cal left, it's HOW he left.

How do I know Josh is cleaner than guys like Calipari? It has nothing to do with Brooks or Memphis Roar (go ahead and say what you mean instead of beating around the bush). Guys like Parrish have repeatedly talked about how clean Josh is. The poll CBS did among other coaches didn't happen to mention Josh with the dirty recruiters; though the coaches polled agreed that he had mastered the 'gray area'.

When I say I was 'involved' in the coaching process it simply means that as a member of the support coaching staff I dealt with student athletes as well as prospective student athletes.

(03-13-2014 02:39 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 10:18 AM)transitt Wrote:  As one of the few on here who has seen the recruiting process first hand (albeit many years ago) I know what goes on.

You write that ^^^
and
You write this below:

(03-13-2014 10:18 AM)transitt Wrote:  Josh is one of the cleaner big time recruiters out there today.

You admit you haven't been "involved" (whatever that means) in the recruiting process in many years, yet you "know" JP is clean. Not saying he isn't, just that you are not speaking from 1st hand knowledge. Is it $10 stuff that makes you so sure?

Funny thing is, just like Cal, the minute JP bolts, all of his "harbortown's" and "WWW's" will be thrown out for public speculation to destroy him and build up the next white knight who takes over the program.

Yep

(03-13-2014 01:48 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 10:18 AM)transitt Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 09:59 AM)Downtown Tiger Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 04:43 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 02:57 PM)presskh Wrote:  Josh's job is to get the best players he can while still staying just inside NCAA rules - just like every other coach.

yep and I am not sure why saying so pisses so many people on this board off. I would be more pissed off if I was them and thought he was not doing this.

There's a lot of naïveté out there.

Is my stating that Josh is one of the cleaner recruiters out there naïve? Do you have knowledge of NCAA violations that Josh is committing? If so, tell the school so they can self report. Does Josh work the gray area as well as anyone? Sure he does. Is he dirty like Calipari or Pearl? No.

As one of the few on here who has seen the recruiting process first hand (albeit many years ago) I know what goes on. I also know about things that happen that the coach cannot possibly control of have knowledge of. That's what Calipari has done so masterfully. He has the network set up where it would be very hard to trace things back to him and even harder to get people to talk (ask Parrish about that).
One person on here used the Will Barton recruitment to make Pastner look dirty. If you have evidence, spill it. Otherwise, STFU.

You just contradicted yourself and probably did not realize it. Could you please provide a link to when cal got in trouble with the ncaa? If not how about you STFU.

Reggie Rose wasn't given free transportation under Cal's watch? MULTIPLE banners haven't come down under Cal's watch? Cal wasn't stripped of wins? The NCAA didn't go to UK and MAKE them correct Cal's career win total?

It's amazing to me that those who had buddies on the former coaching staff want so desperately to see Josh fail. Why don't you ask your buddy Robic why Antigua and Strickland were caught on the University of Memphis campus trying to get CJ Henry to transfer to Kentucky?

(03-13-2014 03:09 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 01:48 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 10:18 AM)transitt Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 09:59 AM)Downtown Tiger Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 04:43 PM)FUT Wrote:  yep and I am not sure why saying so pisses so many people on this board off. I would be more pissed off if I was them and thought he was not doing this.

There's a lot of naïveté out there.

Is my stating that Josh is one of the cleaner recruiters out there naïve? Do you have knowledge of NCAA violations that Josh is committing? If so, tell the school so they can self report. Does Josh work the gray area as well as anyone? Sure he does. Is he dirty like Calipari or Pearl? No.

As one of the few on here who has seen the recruiting process first hand (albeit many years ago) I know what goes on. I also know about things that happen that the coach cannot possibly control of have knowledge of. That's what Calipari has done so masterfully. He has the network set up where it would be very hard to trace things back to him and even harder to get people to talk (ask Parrish about that).
One person on here used the Will Barton recruitment to make Pastner look dirty. If you have evidence, spill it. Otherwise, STFU.

You just contradicted yourself and probably did not realize it. Could you please provide a link to when cal got in trouble with the ncaa? If not how about you STFU.

Reggie Rose wasn't given free transportation under Cal's watch? MULTIPLE banners haven't come down under Cal's watch? Cal wasn't stripped of wins? The NCAA didn't go to UK and MAKE them correct Cal's career win total?

It's amazing to me that those who had buddies on the former coaching staff want so desperately to see Josh fail. Why don't you ask your buddy Robic why Antigua and Strickland were caught on the University of Memphis campus trying to get CJ Henry to transfer to Kentucky?

You saying i want josh to fail shows how little you know about me. Its just too dumb a statement to fathom. The ncaa went out of its way to say cal did nothing wrong in the camby and rose cases. Try again.

(03-13-2014 03:11 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 03:09 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 01:48 PM)FUT Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 10:18 AM)transitt Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 09:59 AM)Downtown Tiger Wrote:  There's a lot of naïveté out there.

Is my stating that Josh is one of the cleaner recruiters out there naïve? Do you have knowledge of NCAA violations that Josh is committing? If so, tell the school so they can self report. Does Josh work the gray area as well as anyone? Sure he does. Is he dirty like Calipari or Pearl? No.

As one of the few on here who has seen the recruiting process first hand (albeit many years ago) I know what goes on. I also know about things that happen that the coach cannot possibly control of have knowledge of. That's what Calipari has done so masterfully. He has the network set up where it would be very hard to trace things back to him and even harder to get people to talk (ask Parrish about that).
One person on here used the Will Barton recruitment to make Pastner look dirty. If you have evidence, spill it. Otherwise, STFU.

You just contradicted yourself and probably did not realize it. Could you please provide a link to when cal got in trouble with the ncaa? If not how about you STFU.

Reggie Rose wasn't given free transportation under Cal's watch? MULTIPLE banners haven't come down under Cal's watch? Cal wasn't stripped of wins? The NCAA didn't go to UK and MAKE them correct Cal's career win total?

It's amazing to me that those who had buddies on the former coaching staff want so desperately to see Josh fail. Why don't you ask your buddy Robic why Antigua and Strickland were caught on the University of Memphis campus trying to get CJ Henry to transfer to Kentucky?

You saying i want josh to fail shows how little you know about me. Its just too dumb a statement to fathom. The ncaa went out of its way to say cal did nothing wrong in the camby and rose cases. Try again.

The NCAA in the Rose case stated that stripping Calipari's win total carried with it an "Implied punishment". Why would they state that were he 100% in the clear?

For someone who wants Josh to succeed you sure do go miles out of your way to show every flaw or potential flaw on his part.

How's Smitty these days? Is he still making the payments for Cal's players' cars or does someone else handle that now?

Still waiting for your comment on Antigua, Strickland, and Henry.

No one wants to see Josh fail. I think people have just learned that this is somewhat of a dirty business, if you consider giving stuff to poor kids dirty, and you have to play the game to succeed. There really isn't any point in being self-righteous about the cleanliness of the program anyway, as we have no way of knowing to what lengths these coaches go to get kids. What we do know is that under Josh we haven't had to deal with criminal issues and he gets kids to graduate. I believe he's handled the bumps in the road extremely well, whether it was Jelan, Joe or whatever. These are all things to be proud of and an example of how all programs should be run.

(03-13-2014 03:23 PM)Rob Wrote:  No one wants to see Josh fail. I think people have just learned that this is somewhat of a dirty business, if you consider giving stuff to poor kids dirty, and you have to play the game to succeed. There really isn't any point in being self-righteous about the cleanliness of the program anyway, as we have no way of knowing to what lengths these coaches go to get kids. What we do know is that under Josh we haven't had to deal with criminal issues and he gets kids to graduate. I believe he's handled the bumps in the road extremely well, whether it was Jelan, Joe or whatever. These are all things to be proud of and an example of how all programs should be run.

Yeah, there are people on here actively rooting for Josh to lose so he'll get fired. Some on here do actually want him to fail because, for whatever reason, they just don't like him. He has handled player discipline exceptionally well. That's one of the main reasons I want him to continue to develop as an Xs and Os guy. The program is much bigger than the coach but I really like the way the program is being handled right now as far as academic development and off the court structure. I want to see Josh succeed here.