When you break the ties, once a team has come out on top, then you remove them from the list.

FAU was 9, and Tulsa was 10-seed. So you remove those two from the list and compare NT,FIU, and Rice head-to-head.

North Texas was 2-0 in that group, while Rice was 1-1.

(03-07-2014 12:53 AM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  When you break the ties, once a team has come out on top, then you remove them from the list.

FAU was 9, and Tulsa was 10-seed. So you remove those two from the list and compare NT,FIU, and Rice head-to-head.

North Texas was 2-0 in that group, while Rice was 1-1.

I don't think that's accurate. From the rule book:

"After the top or bottom teams in a mini-conference are determined, the remaining teams are ranked by their record in the original mini-conference."

But, whatever. I'm not losing too much sleep over 11 and 12 seeds.

(03-07-2014 01:05 AM)STexMiner Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 12:53 AM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  When you break the ties, once a team has come out on top, then you remove them from the list.

FAU was 9, and Tulsa was 10-seed. So you remove those two from the list and compare NT,FIU, and Rice head-to-head.

North Texas was 2-0 in that group, while Rice was 1-1.

I don't think that's accurate. From the rule book:

"After the top or bottom teams in a mini-conference are determined, the remaining teams are ranked by their record in the original mini-conference."

But, whatever. I'm not losing too much sleep over 11 and 12 seeds.

Yeah, I'm wasn't sure.

But I calculated the tiebreakers that way last night, and ended up matching what was on the C-USA official site. That's how it was always done in the Sun Belt, so I assumed most tie-breaking procedures are the same, across all conferences.

(03-07-2014 01:18 AM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 01:05 AM)STexMiner Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 12:53 AM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  When you break the ties, once a team has come out on top, then you remove them from the list.

FAU was 9, and Tulsa was 10-seed. So you remove those two from the list and compare NT,FIU, and Rice head-to-head.

North Texas was 2-0 in that group, while Rice was 1-1.

I don't think that's accurate. From the rule book:

"After the top or bottom teams in a mini-conference are determined, the remaining teams are ranked by their record in the original mini-conference."

But, whatever. I'm not losing too much sleep over 11 and 12 seeds.

Yeah, I'm wasn't sure.

But I calculated the tiebreakers that way last night, and ended up matching what was on the C-USA official site. That's how it was always done in the Sun Belt, so I assumed most tie-breaking procedures are the same, across all conferences.

No biggie. I guess we'll find out tomorrow when the brackets are released.

Tulsa really got a huge break with this bracket. There really isn't any team with an easier path to the semi-finals. Middle Tennessee is the only real roadblock standing between them and the finals. LT, USM, and UTEP are all on the other side. And they get the "first game" of the day in each round, so every opponent they face will be playing on less-rest.

(03-06-2014 10:46 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(03-06-2014 10:42 PM)Proud El Pasoan Wrote:  Now UTEP has to win four games in row to win the tournament in El Paso.

Look at the positive. Having the home team (UTEP) play 4 games should help with tournament attendance. Plus, UTEP fans have 4 more chances to see their team play.

w/o going further into the thread....they're tired....

(03-06-2014 10:42 PM)Proud El Pasoan Wrote:  This really blows for UTEP fans. El Paso hosting the tournament but UTEP finishes fifth.......just one ####### place behind to avoid receiving a two game bye in the tournament! I really wish UAB had won tonight! Now UTEP has to win four games in row to win the tournament in El Paso. I can guarantee you if Isaac Hamilton had chose to honor his National Letter of Intent instead of backing out UTEP wouldn't be in this position right now!

....the real bummer is losing 7 of 9 at home and your guys are tired.....hope we see you honestly now....please don't take offense....

(03-06-2014 11:40 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  Well crud. I have a Drilling II test right after we play... looks like I'm not going to be watching our first game.

Drilling II? What are you in? Petroleum Engineering?

Damn we got the **** end of the stick for a 1 seed. Tulsa has it much easier IMO. Oh well.

I guess this will go down in history as the worst draw a championship team has ever gotten in a conference tournament for Southern Miss. Win a share of the title, and your first game is against a good home team. Typical for us

I guess we could be you guys! Beat UTEP for us.

(03-07-2014 12:53 AM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  When you break the ties, once a team has come out on top, then you remove them from the list.

FAU was 9, and Tulsa was 10-seed. So you remove those two from the list and compare NT,FIU, and Rice head-to-head.

North Texas was 2-0 in that group, while Rice was 1-1.

FIU isn't eligible for the tournament so they don't figure in any tie breakers

(03-07-2014 09:21 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  I guess this will go down in history as the worst draw a championship team has ever gotten in a conference tournament for Southern Miss. Win a share of the title, and your first game is against a good home team. Typical for us

We just gotta win.

I mean I'd understand it if we were leaving the conference.

(03-07-2014 10:15 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 09:21 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  I guess this will go down in history as the worst draw a championship team has ever gotten in a conference tournament for Southern Miss. Win a share of the title, and your first game is against a good home team. Typical for us

We just gotta win.

I mean I'd understand it if we were leaving the conference.

yep...we have to win a road game...nasty is right about it being a drag, but it is what it is....just gotta win that damn thing and those that would follow...

(03-07-2014 10:15 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 09:21 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  I guess this will go down in history as the worst draw a championship team has ever gotten in a conference tournament for Southern Miss. Win a share of the title, and your first game is against a good home team. Typical for us

We just gotta win.

I mean I'd understand it if we were leaving the conference.

if it makes you feel better (figure of speech b/c it won't make you feel better) but we are coming from a conf where the tourney was in Richmond, VA (i.e - mere blocks from VCU's campus) every year. ODU and VCU were almost always in the top 4 and their students had the first crack at tickets so even if we weren't playing them their students would flood the arena a root against us. it was awful. I hate them so much.

(03-07-2014 09:39 AM)USMSTUD Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 12:53 AM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  When you break the ties, once a team has come out on top, then you remove them from the list.

FAU was 9, and Tulsa was 10-seed. So you remove those two from the list and compare NT,FIU, and Rice head-to-head.

North Texas was 2-0 in that group, while Rice was 1-1.

FIU isn't eligible for the tournament so they don't figure in any tie breakers

That was the women's bracket. Someone wanted it posted.

There are a couple of deleted messages from last evening, so I can see how it is confusing.

(03-07-2014 11:32 AM)ODU_NYG Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 10:15 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 09:21 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  I guess this will go down in history as the worst draw a championship team has ever gotten in a conference tournament for Southern Miss. Win a share of the title, and your first game is against a good home team. Typical for us

We just gotta win.

I mean I'd understand it if we were leaving the conference.

if it makes you feel better (figure of speech b/c it won't make you feel better) but we are coming from a conf where the tourney was in Richmond, VA (i.e - mere blocks from VCU's campus) every year. ODU and VCU were almost always in the top 4 and their students had the first crack at tickets so even if we weren't playing them their students would flood the arena a root against us. it was awful. I hate them so much.

I would really like to see the tournament moved to a neutral site.

(03-07-2014 12:05 PM)USMSTUD Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 11:32 AM)ODU_NYG Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 10:15 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 09:21 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  I guess this will go down in history as the worst draw a championship team has ever gotten in a conference tournament for Southern Miss. Win a share of the title, and your first game is against a good home team. Typical for us

We just gotta win.

I mean I'd understand it if we were leaving the conference.

if it makes you feel better (figure of speech b/c it won't make you feel better) but we are coming from a conf where the tourney was in Richmond, VA (i.e - mere blocks from VCU's campus) every year. ODU and VCU were almost always in the top 4 and their students had the first crack at tickets so even if we weren't playing them their students would flood the arena a root against us. it was awful. I hate them so much.

I would really like to see the tournament moved to a neutral site.

have been saying this from day one....Biloxi is the perfect spot....strategically placed with all amenities for both gals and guys

(03-07-2014 12:17 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 12:05 PM)USMSTUD Wrote:  I would really like to see the tournament moved to a neutral site.

have been saying this from day one....Biloxi is the perfect spot....strategically placed with all amenities for both gals and guys

Mississippi Coast Coliseum was a great venue for two of the old Metro Tournaments (1990 and '94). Can't be there every year of course, because the attendance-advantage to USM is too great. But it could definitely be part of a rotation.
Biloxi, Atlanta (why not? easy to get there, tons of hotel rooms, lots to do, centrally located for the eastern schools) and a Texas-location could be the 3-year cycle…

Isn't there a decent arena in Pensacola, as well ?