Aren't hearings cheaper than wars and bailouts?

When you have a witness who takes the 5th, that's generally not regarded as evidence that there's nothing there. And when same witness offers to waive the 5th in exchange for something, usually you agree to get the testimony unless that witness is the primo target. And I somehow doubt that Lerner is the primo target here.

(03-04-2014 06:51 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  If there's not a smidgen of corruption, why does Lerner want a deal for her testimony?

Once again, Owl asks the logical questions. Tom, if everything is clean and now out in the open, why does she want immunity?

If everything were already out in the open, why would she fear for her life? Doesn't make much sense does it?

(03-04-2014 07:16 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  When you have a witness who takes the 5th, that's generally not regarded as evidence that there's nothing there. And when same witness offers to waive the 5th in exchange for something, usually you agree to get the testimony unless that witness is the primo target. And I somehow doubt that Lerner is the primo target here.

My guess as to why she's getting these "death" threats.

(03-04-2014 06:51 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  If there's not a smidgen of corruption, why does Lerner want a deal for her testimony?

Any cop will tell you that refusing to take a polygraph test automatically gets you more scrutiny.

Taking the 5th means either she thinks she has done something illegal, or her attorney does based on what she's told him. Seeking a deal for her testimony implies someone higher ranking than her ordered her to do the illegal act.

(03-04-2014 07:39 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Taking the 5th means either she thinks she has done something illegal, or her attorney does based on what she's told him. Seeking a deal for her testimony implies someone higher ranking than her ordered her to do the illegal act.

Bingo.

And you can double down on that interpretation because you can be sure she is getting VERY competent legal advice here.

Was stated she was not going to take the 5th this time.
What happened?

(03-04-2014 08:01 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Was stated she was not going to take the 5th this time.
What happened?

An immunity snag? Realistically, why else would she do anything but plead the 5th?

(03-04-2014 06:51 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  If there's not a smidgen of corruption, why does Lerner want a deal for her testimony?

Or fear for her life? Wouldn't put it past the Regime to silence her.

(03-04-2014 08:09 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(03-04-2014 06:51 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  If there's not a smidgen of corruption, why does Lerner want a deal for her testimony?

Or fear for her life? Wouldn't put it past the Regime to silence her.

Would never happen in America. Chicago president, union proponent, O's grandmother dying the night before the first presidential election, nah would never happen in America. Nice to have heard of you Lois, you need a Superman to protect you, not let's make a deal.

She made a deal with the devil (or his minions) as a good little foot soldier for the left. What she didn't count on was their willingness to hang her out to dry or silence her the old-fashioned way.

Betting she falls on the sword and takes all of the blame as the initiator or she accidentally falls on a real sword and gets the blame posthumously.

All I can hope for at this point is that Lois Lerner gets a case of the now-infamous Bob Costas pink eye just prior to her testimony.

(03-04-2014 06:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  She's gotten death threats.

Her attorney has provided them to Issa.

They have done so before, and have said they will again if called, plead the 5th Amendment.

Issa is once again wasting your money and time for nothing but a political stunt. You must be proud of him and his failures.

The FBI has not received any correspondence about death threats from Lerner. I don't believe Issa has gotten them either. Lerner and her lawyer lie regularly to Congress but if they filed a false report to the FBI, then her tit would be in a wringer.

The lies and dishonesty of democrats cannot be understated.

(03-04-2014 08:40 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(03-04-2014 06:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  She's gotten death threats.

Her attorney has provided them to Issa.

They have done so before, and have said they will again if called, plead the 5th Amendment.

Issa is once again wasting your money and time for nothing but a political stunt. You must be proud of him and his failures.

The FBI has not received any correspondence about death threats from Lerner. I don't believe Issa has gotten them either. Lerner and her lawyer lie regularly to Congress but if they filed a false report to the FBI, then her tit would be in a wringer.

The lies and dishonesty of democrats cannot be understated.

SOAF, has a Republican ever lied?

And then there's this:

Quote:Lerner’s attorney, William Taylor III of Zuckerman Spaeder LLP, is imploring the panel to reconsider having his client testify publicly because Lerner fears for her life and has received numerous death threats. Taylor said the FBI looked into at least one of the death threats against Lerner.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/02/lo...04019.html

But I'm really curious to know how you know the FBI didn't and also how you know that the law firm of Zuckerman Spaeder LLP, or specifically her attorney William Taylor III are 'democrats'

Think everyone is a racist and everyone has lied.

(03-05-2014 10:39 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-04-2014 08:40 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(03-04-2014 06:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  She's gotten death threats.

Her attorney has provided them to Issa.

They have done so before, and have said they will again if called, plead the 5th Amendment.

Issa is once again wasting your money and time for nothing but a political stunt. You must be proud of him and his failures.

The FBI has not received any correspondence about death threats from Lerner. I don't believe Issa has gotten them either. Lerner and her lawyer lie regularly to Congress but if they filed a false report to the FBI, then her tit would be in a wringer.

The lies and dishonesty of democrats cannot be understated.

SOAF, has a Republican ever lied?

And then there's this:

Quote:Lerner’s attorney, William Taylor III of Zuckerman Spaeder LLP, is imploring the panel to reconsider having his client testify publicly because Lerner fears for her life and has received numerous death threats. Taylor said the FBI looked into at least one of the death threats against Lerner.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/02/lo...04019.html

But I'm really curious to know how you know the FBI didn't and also how you know that the law firm of Zuckerman Spaeder LLP, or specifically her attorney William Taylor III are 'democrats'

Yes, republicans lie too, but lets recall some of the worse ones:


LBJ:
We were attacked (in the Gulf of Tonkin)

Nixon:
I am not a crook

GHW Bush:
Read my lips - No New Taxes

Clinton:
I did not have sex with that woman... Miss Lewinski

GW Bush:
Iraq has weapons of mass destruction

Obama:
I will have the most transparent administration in history.
The stimulus will fund shovel-ready jobs.
I am focused like a laser on creating jobs.
The IRS is not targeting anyone.
It was a spontaneous riot about a movie.
If I had a son.
I will put an end to the type of politics that "breeds division, conflict and cynicism".
You didn't build that!
I will restore trust in Government.
The Cambridge cops acted stupidly.
The public will have 5 days to look at every bill that lands on my desk
It's not my red line - it is the world's red line.
Whistle blowers will be protected in my administration.
We got back every dime we used to rescue the banks and auto companies, with interest.
I am not spying on American citizens.
Obama Care will be good for America.
You can keep your family doctor.
Premiums will be lowered by $2500.
If you like it, you can keep your current healthcare plan.
It's just like shopping at Amazon.
I knew nothing about "Fast and Furious" gunrunning to Mexican drug cartels.
I knew nothing about IRS targeting conservative groups.
I knew nothing about what happened in Benghazi.
I have never known my uncle from Kenya who is in the country illegally and that was arrested and told to leave the country over 20 years ago.
And, I have never lived with that uncle. He finally admitted (12-05-2013) that he DID know his uncle and that he DID live with him.
And the biggest one of all:
"I, Barrack Hussein Obama, pledge to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America."

Wish they would release all the information on what threats Lois had.

Keep telling yourself that you're not a bigot old man.

(03-05-2014 10:50 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Wish they would release all the information on what threats Lois had.

But that's not how law enforcement works...nor should it.