ESPN commercial for the Duke-UNC game made it a dual-game commercial for Syracuse-Duke as well.

a year ago I thought that SU would play second fiddle to unc-duke but it is quickly starting to look like that is not the case.

Cuse is #1 and the games are 2 days apart...just smart marketing. Cuse is still second fiddle to UNC/Duke.

(02-19-2014 08:31 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Cuse is #1 and the games are 2 days apart...just smart marketing. Cuse is still second fiddle to UNC/Duke.

I know......

I just didn't think under any scenario espn would ever do that

It will be interesting to see if someone in the ACC can rise to the occasion to serve as a worthy rival for Syracuse to moonlight for UNC-Duke. Perhaps a home&home match-up against Pitt or Louisville each season?

The ACC needs another BIG Rivalry. Cuse is one half...just waiting on the other piece.

Cuse and UL should be permanent rivals. I assume UL is taking over UMD's basketball rivals just like they're taking over UMD's football slot?

If so, just make these changes (I think everything would be in order):

Cuse - BC, UL
Pitt - UL, UVA
UL - Cuse, Pitt
UVA - VT, Pitt

But I think Pitt and Cuse should play yearly instead of Cuse and BC. That would look like this:

Cuse - Pitt, UL
Pitt - UL, Cuse
UL - Cuse, Pitt
UVA - VT, BC
BC - ND, UVA

Never take a Rival at anything less than Face value. Rival = High Priority
That was a tough loss. I still see a No.1 seed if Cuse takes care of Duke. Orange will Bounce back !

(02-19-2014 10:46 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Cuse and UL should be permanent rivals. I assume UL is taking over UMD's basketball rivals just like they're taking over UMD's football slot?

If so, just make these changes (I think everything would be in order):

Cuse - BC, UL
Pitt - UL, UVA
UL - Cuse, Pitt
UVA - VT, Pitt

But I think Pitt and Cuse should play yearly instead of Cuse and BC. That would look like this:

Cuse - Pitt, UL
Pitt - UL, Cuse
UL - Cuse, Pitt
UVA - VT, BC
BC - ND, UVA

in the past I have argued that louisville was in the process of being our major rival. Had the big east continued without losing members louisville would of overtaken uconn in the same way uconn overtook gtown

(02-19-2014 10:46 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Cuse and UL should be permanent rivals. I assume UL is taking over UMD's basketball rivals just like they're taking over UMD's football slot?

If so, just make these changes (I think everything would be in order):

Cuse - BC, UL
Pitt - UL, UVA
UL - Cuse, Pitt
UVA - VT, Pitt

But I think Pitt and Cuse should play yearly instead of Cuse and BC. That would look like this:

Cuse - Pitt, UL
Pitt - UL, Cuse
UL - Cuse, Pitt
UVA - VT, BC
BC - ND, UVA

SU-UL had been emerging a major rivalry within the Big East - scheduled twice in 2010, 2012 and 2013. However, SU has a major alumni presence in the Boston area and probably likes the idea of playing in Boston annually. I'm sure BC puts a high value on the series as well - a northeastern opponent with a longstanding rivalry and a marquee program.

The ACC's strategy was to try and make Syracuse/Louisville-Duke or Syracuse/Louisville-UNC happen as much as possible home and home. Seems that Syracuse latched hold of Duke, perhaps Louisville will latch on to UNC? Look you will hear from UNC and Duke fans alike that there are no other rivalries between our two teams but we have a rivalry with State and they had a rivalry with Maryland plain and simple. Perhaps Syracuse-BC is the next big rivalry though

OHH..... #BeatDook

(02-20-2014 01:12 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 10:46 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Cuse and UL should be permanent rivals. I assume UL is taking over UMD's basketball rivals just like they're taking over UMD's football slot?

If so, just make these changes (I think everything would be in order):

Cuse - BC, UL
Pitt - UL, UVA
UL - Cuse, Pitt
UVA - VT, Pitt

But I think Pitt and Cuse should play yearly instead of Cuse and BC. That would look like this:

Cuse - Pitt, UL
Pitt - UL, Cuse
UL - Cuse, Pitt
UVA - VT, BC
BC - ND, UVA

in the past I have argued that louisville was in the process of being our major rival. Had the big east continued without losing members louisville would of overtaken uconn in the same way uconn overtook gtown

Sorry to disagree with you John, but Uconn did not overtake GTown as our main rival. Not for us older guys. If you are 30 and under, maybe.

(02-19-2014 10:46 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Cuse and UL should be permanent rivals. I assume UL is taking over UMD's basketball rivals just like they're taking over UMD's football slot?

If so, just make these changes (I think everything would be in order):

Cuse - BC, UL
Pitt - UL, UVA
UL - Cuse, Pitt
UVA - VT, Pitt

But I think Pitt and Cuse should play yearly instead of Cuse and BC. That would look like this:

Cuse - Pitt, UL
Pitt - UL, Cuse
UL - Cuse, Pitt
UVA - VT, BC
BC - ND, UVA

Never happen...ESPN drives this. Cuse will play lots of 2 game sets with Duke, UNC, Louisville and Pitt going forward along with BC.

(02-20-2014 10:29 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(02-20-2014 01:12 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 10:46 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Cuse and UL should be permanent rivals. I assume UL is taking over UMD's basketball rivals just like they're taking over UMD's football slot?

If so, just make these changes (I think everything would be in order):

Cuse - BC, UL
Pitt - UL, UVA
UL - Cuse, Pitt
UVA - VT, Pitt

But I think Pitt and Cuse should play yearly instead of Cuse and BC. That would look like this:

Cuse - Pitt, UL
Pitt - UL, Cuse
UL - Cuse, Pitt
UVA - VT, BC
BC - ND, UVA

in the past I have argued that louisville was in the process of being our major rival. Had the big east continued without losing members louisville would of overtaken uconn in the same way uconn overtook gtown

Sorry to disagree with you John, but Uconn did not overtake GTown as our main rival. Not for us older guys. If you are 30 and under, maybe.

i dunno bro, in the last 10 years it certainly appear that uconn was the most anticipated game of the year

(02-20-2014 10:39 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(02-20-2014 10:29 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(02-20-2014 01:12 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 10:46 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Cuse and UL should be permanent rivals. I assume UL is taking over UMD's basketball rivals just like they're taking over UMD's football slot?

If so, just make these changes (I think everything would be in order):

Cuse - BC, UL
Pitt - UL, UVA
UL - Cuse, Pitt
UVA - VT, Pitt

But I think Pitt and Cuse should play yearly instead of Cuse and BC. That would look like this:

Cuse - Pitt, UL
Pitt - UL, Cuse
UL - Cuse, Pitt
UVA - VT, BC
BC - ND, UVA

in the past I have argued that louisville was in the process of being our major rival. Had the big east continued without losing members louisville would of overtaken uconn in the same way uconn overtook gtown

Sorry to disagree with you John, but Uconn did not overtake GTown as our main rival. Not for us older guys. If you are 30 and under, maybe.

i dunno bro, in the last 10 years it certainly appear that uconn was the most anticipated game of the year

I read an article a few months ago that said that Uconn has never once sold out the Dome. Not once.

(02-20-2014 09:09 AM)westmc9th Wrote:  The ACC's strategy was to try and make Syracuse/Louisville-Duke or Syracuse/Louisville-UNC happen as much as possible home and home. Seems that Syracuse latched hold of Duke, perhaps Louisville will latch on to UNC? Look you will hear from UNC and Duke fans alike that there are no other rivalries between our two teams but we have a rivalry with State and they had a rivalry with Maryland plain and simple. Perhaps Syracuse-BC is the next big rivalry though

OHH..... #BeatDook

Syracuse latched on to Duke? No, it's Syracuse's first season so the schedulers put Duke on their schedule twice this year. Just like how Pitt got FSU and Miami at home, Cuse got Clemson at home and UL is getting Miami at home in their inaugural ACC football seasons.

There are only 2 permanent rivals (4 games). There are 2 rotating series (4 games). Then there are 10 games, one against each remaining school. Maybe that setup has been changed, but if it has, no one on here has mentioned it yet in response to my question and proposal.

To conclude, Cuse won't be playing Duke twice next year. They may be playing VT and Clemson twice for all we know, along with BC and Pitt who are their 2 permanent rivals. Duke only plays 2 schools twice EVERY year, UNC and Wake.

(02-20-2014 10:29 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(02-20-2014 01:12 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 10:46 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Cuse and UL should be permanent rivals. I assume UL is taking over UMD's basketball rivals just like they're taking over UMD's football slot?

If so, just make these changes (I think everything would be in order):

Cuse - BC, UL
Pitt - UL, UVA
UL - Cuse, Pitt
UVA - VT, Pitt

But I think Pitt and Cuse should play yearly instead of Cuse and BC. That would look like this:

Cuse - Pitt, UL
Pitt - UL, Cuse
UL - Cuse, Pitt
UVA - VT, BC
BC - ND, UVA

in the past I have argued that louisville was in the process of being our major rival. Had the big east continued without losing members louisville would of overtaken uconn in the same way uconn overtook gtown

Sorry to disagree with you John, but Uconn did not overtake GTown as our main rival. Not for us older guys. If you are 30 and under, maybe.

Nobody cares about Gtown anymore.

(02-20-2014 10:38 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 10:46 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Cuse and UL should be permanent rivals. I assume UL is taking over UMD's basketball rivals just like they're taking over UMD's football slot?

If so, just make these changes (I think everything would be in order):

Cuse - BC, UL
Pitt - UL, UVA
UL - Cuse, Pitt
UVA - VT, Pitt

But I think Pitt and Cuse should play yearly instead of Cuse and BC. That would look like this:

Cuse - Pitt, UL
Pitt - UL, Cuse
UL - Cuse, Pitt
UVA - VT, BC
BC - ND, UVA

Never happen...ESPN drives this. Cuse will play lots of 2 game sets with Duke, UNC, Louisville and Pitt going forward along with BC.

Cuse only plays 2 games against BC and Pitt each year. That's it. Every one else rotates through on a 6 year cycle.

I do agree that, just like in football, the best teams should all face each other more often (and not inconsequentially, the non-best teams will face the best teams more frequently as well). The only problem is how do you go about doing that? Do you reduce the permanent rivals from 2 to 1? Do you expand to 20 conference games? I'm almost certain some schools will reject the permanent rival reduction immediately. I have no idea about schools' OOC scheduling practices and how additional conference games would impact that, however.

I think I'd like to see 20 conference games (2 permanent rivals, 4 rotating rivals, 8 rotating singles). You'd rotate through the conference every 3 years instead of every 6. It'd guarantee schools like FSU, Miami, Clemson and VT yearly 2-game series with at least one top school each year, which doesn't happen at times in the current setup, while also allowing the top schools to face each other more often, too.

I really want L'ville vs. Cuse EVERY YEAR like UNC/Duke. Home and Home.
FlossY out...

(02-20-2014 01:40 PM)HRFlossY Wrote:  I really want L'ville vs. Cuse EVERY YEAR like UNC/Duke. Home and Home.
FlossY out...

I think that would be in the best interest for the ACC.

Cuse should play Louisville and Pitt home and home in basketball

&

Cuse should play BC and Pitt annually in football

As a Syracuse fan those are the most important "rivalry" games IMO

Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Tapatalk

(02-20-2014 01:20 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(02-20-2014 09:09 AM)westmc9th Wrote:  The ACC's strategy was to try and make Syracuse/Louisville-Duke or Syracuse/Louisville-UNC happen as much as possible home and home. Seems that Syracuse latched hold of Duke, perhaps Louisville will latch on to UNC? Look you will hear from UNC and Duke fans alike that there are no other rivalries between our two teams but we have a rivalry with State and they had a rivalry with Maryland plain and simple. Perhaps Syracuse-BC is the next big rivalry though

OHH..... #BeatDook

Syracuse latched on to Duke? No, it's Syracuse's first season so the schedulers put Duke on their schedule twice this year. Just like how Pitt got FSU and Miami at home, Cuse got Clemson at home and UL is getting Miami at home in their inaugural ACC football seasons.

There are only 2 permanent rivals (4 games). There are 2 rotating series (4 games). Then there are 10 games, one against each remaining school. Maybe that setup has been changed, but if it has, no one on here has mentioned it yet in response to my question and proposal.

To conclude, Cuse won't be playing Duke twice next year. They may be playing VT and Clemson twice for all we know, along with BC and Pitt who are their 2 permanent rivals. Duke only plays 2 schools twice EVERY year, UNC and Wake.

(02-20-2014 10:29 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(02-20-2014 01:12 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 10:46 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Cuse and UL should be permanent rivals. I assume UL is taking over UMD's basketball rivals just like they're taking over UMD's football slot?

If so, just make these changes (I think everything would be in order):

Cuse - BC, UL
Pitt - UL, UVA
UL - Cuse, Pitt
UVA - VT, Pitt

But I think Pitt and Cuse should play yearly instead of Cuse and BC. That would look like this:

Cuse - Pitt, UL
Pitt - UL, Cuse
UL - Cuse, Pitt
UVA - VT, BC
BC - ND, UVA

in the past I have argued that louisville was in the process of being our major rival. Had the big east continued without losing members louisville would of overtaken uconn in the same way uconn overtook gtown

Sorry to disagree with you John, but Uconn did not overtake GTown as our main rival. Not for us older guys. If you are 30 and under, maybe.

Nobody cares about Gtown anymore.

(02-20-2014 10:38 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 10:46 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Cuse and UL should be permanent rivals. I assume UL is taking over UMD's basketball rivals just like they're taking over UMD's football slot?

If so, just make these changes (I think everything would be in order):

Cuse - BC, UL
Pitt - UL, UVA
UL - Cuse, Pitt
UVA - VT, Pitt

But I think Pitt and Cuse should play yearly instead of Cuse and BC. That would look like this:

Cuse - Pitt, UL
Pitt - UL, Cuse
UL - Cuse, Pitt
UVA - VT, BC
BC - ND, UVA

Never happen...ESPN drives this. Cuse will play lots of 2 game sets with Duke, UNC, Louisville and Pitt going forward along with BC.

Cuse only plays 2 games against BC and Pitt each year. That's it. Every one else rotates through on a 6 year cycle.

I do agree that, just like in football, the best teams should all face each other more often (and not inconsequentially, the non-best teams will face the best teams more frequently as well). The only problem is how do you go about doing that? Do you reduce the permanent rivals from 2 to 1? Do you expand to 20 conference games? I'm almost certain some schools will reject the permanent rival reduction immediately. I have no idea about schools' OOC scheduling practices and how additional conference games would impact that, however.

I think I'd like to see 20 conference games (2 permanent rivals, 4 rotating rivals, 8 rotating singles). You'd rotate through the conference every 3 years instead of every 6. It'd guarantee schools like FSU, Miami, Clemson and VT yearly 2-game series with at least one top school each year, which doesn't happen at times in the current setup, while also allowing the top schools to face each other more often, too.

I think the league would be smart to change that. We have a chance for some dynamite nationally televised games, and we should maximize that, IMO. Let's have four permanent home and home rivals and ten single games every year. Keep as many existing rivalries as possible, but also maximize the games between the top programs.

My suggestions:

Syracuse - Duke, Louisville, Pitt and BC
Duke - UNC, NC State, WFU and Syracuse
UNC - Duke, Louisville, NC State, WFU
Louisville - Syracuse, UNC, Pitt, Notre Dame
Pitt - Syracuse, Louisville, BC, Notre Dame
Notre Dame- Louisville, Pitt, BC, Miami
BC - Syracuse, Pitt, Notre Dame, Miami
Miami - BC, Notre Dame, FSU, GT
NC State - UNC, Duke, WFU, VT
WFU - UNC, Duke, State, VT
VT - UVa, WFU, NC State, Clemson
UVa - VT, Clemson, GT, FSU
Clemson - VT, UVa, FSU, GT
FSU - Miami, UVa, Clemson, GT
GT - Miami, UVa, Clemson, FSU

(02-19-2014 10:15 PM)DXcuse Wrote:  It will be interesting to see if someone in the ACC can rise to the occasion to serve as a worthy rival for Syracuse to moonlight for UNC-Duke. Perhaps a home&home match-up against Pitt or Louisville each season?

The ACC needs another BIG Rivalry. Cuse is one half...just waiting on the other piece.

Another big rivalry? Pitt is 14-7 vs SU since 2001!!!
/2001 BET Ben Howland L 54-55 Griffin, Williams, McNeil, Shumpert, Brown OT: Griffin 19 pts
1/22/2002 @ Ben Howland L 57-72 Williams, Duany, Forth, Warrick, Shumpert Shumpert 17 pts
2/10/2002 H Ben Howland L 63-75 Williams, Thues, Forth, Duany, Shumpert Shumpert 28 pts
1/18/2003 @ Ben Howland L 60-73 McNamara, Duany, Forth, Warrick, Anthony McNamara 19 pts
2/1/2003 H Ben Howland W 67-65 McNamara, Duany, Forth, Warrick, Anthony Warrick 20 pts
1/24/2004 H Jamie Dixon L 45-66 Edelin, McNamara, Warrick, Pace, Forth Warrick 16 pts
2/29/2004 @ Jamie Dixon W 49-46 Pace, McNamara, Warrick, Nichols, Forth OT: Warrick 17 pts
1/29/2005 @ Jamie Dixon L 69-76 McNamara, McCroskey, Forth, Warrick, Pace McNamara 26 pts
2/14/2005 H Jamie Dixon L 64-68 McNamara, Edelin, Forth, Warrick, Pace McNamara 16 pts
1/23/2006 @ Jamie Dixon L 67-80 McNamara, Devendorf, Watkins, Roberts, Nichols McNamara & Devendorf 18 pts
3/11/2006 BET Jamie Dixon W 65-61 McNamara, Devendorf, Watkins, Roberts, Nichols Nichols 15 pts
1/4/2007 H Jamie Dixon L 74-66 Wright, Rautins, Watkins, Roberts, Nichols Devendorf 17 pts
3/1/2008 H Jamie Dixon L 77-82 Flynn, Harris, Onuaku, Greene, Ongenaet Flynn 28 pts, Greene 23 pts
1/19/2009 @ Jamie Dixon L 60-78 Flynn, Rautins, Onuaku, Jackson, Harris Rautins 17 pts
1/2/2010 H Jamie Dixon L 72-82 Triche, Rautins, Onuaku, Jackson, Johnson Johnson 19 pts
1/17/2011 @ Jamie Dixon L 66-74 Jardine, Triche, Melo, Jackson, Southerland Fair 16 pts, Jackson 10 reb
1/16/2012 H Jamie Dixon W 71-63 Jardine, Triche, Melo, Christmas, Joseph Waiters 16 pts, Jardine 10 asst, Melo 10 reb
2/2/2013 @ Jamie Dixon L 55-65 Carter-Williams, Triche, Christmas, Grant, Fair Fair 20 pts
3/14/2013 BET Jamie Dixon W 62-59 Carter-Williams, Triche, Christmas, Southerland, Fair Southerland 20 pts
1/18/2014 H Jamie Dixon W 59-54 Ennis, Cooney, Christmas, Grant, Fair Ennis 16 pts
2/12/2014 @ Jamie Dixon W 58-56 Ennis, Cooney, Christmas, Grant, Fair Fair 14 pts, Ennis 35 ft game winning shot

(02-21-2014 04:30 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(02-20-2014 01:20 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(02-20-2014 09:09 AM)westmc9th Wrote:  The ACC's strategy was to try and make Syracuse/Louisville-Duke or Syracuse/Louisville-UNC happen as much as possible home and home. Seems that Syracuse latched hold of Duke, perhaps Louisville will latch on to UNC? Look you will hear from UNC and Duke fans alike that there are no other rivalries between our two teams but we have a rivalry with State and they had a rivalry with Maryland plain and simple. Perhaps Syracuse-BC is the next big rivalry though

OHH..... #BeatDook

Syracuse latched on to Duke? No, it's Syracuse's first season so the schedulers put Duke on their schedule twice this year. Just like how Pitt got FSU and Miami at home, Cuse got Clemson at home and UL is getting Miami at home in their inaugural ACC football seasons.

There are only 2 permanent rivals (4 games). There are 2 rotating series (4 games). Then there are 10 games, one against each remaining school. Maybe that setup has been changed, but if it has, no one on here has mentioned it yet in response to my question and proposal.

To conclude, Cuse won't be playing Duke twice next year. They may be playing VT and Clemson twice for all we know, along with BC and Pitt who are their 2 permanent rivals. Duke only plays 2 schools twice EVERY year, UNC and Wake.

(02-20-2014 10:29 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(02-20-2014 01:12 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 10:46 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Cuse and UL should be permanent rivals. I assume UL is taking over UMD's basketball rivals just like they're taking over UMD's football slot?

If so, just make these changes (I think everything would be in order):

Cuse - BC, UL
Pitt - UL, UVA
UL - Cuse, Pitt
UVA - VT, Pitt

But I think Pitt and Cuse should play yearly instead of Cuse and BC. That would look like this:

Cuse - Pitt, UL
Pitt - UL, Cuse
UL - Cuse, Pitt
UVA - VT, BC
BC - ND, UVA

in the past I have argued that louisville was in the process of being our major rival. Had the big east continued without losing members louisville would of overtaken uconn in the same way uconn overtook gtown

Sorry to disagree with you John, but Uconn did not overtake GTown as our main rival. Not for us older guys. If you are 30 and under, maybe.

Nobody cares about Gtown anymore.

(02-20-2014 10:38 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 10:46 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Cuse and UL should be permanent rivals. I assume UL is taking over UMD's basketball rivals just like they're taking over UMD's football slot?

If so, just make these changes (I think everything would be in order):

Cuse - BC, UL
Pitt - UL, UVA
UL - Cuse, Pitt
UVA - VT, Pitt

But I think Pitt and Cuse should play yearly instead of Cuse and BC. That would look like this:

Cuse - Pitt, UL
Pitt - UL, Cuse
UL - Cuse, Pitt
UVA - VT, BC
BC - ND, UVA

Never happen...ESPN drives this. Cuse will play lots of 2 game sets with Duke, UNC, Louisville and Pitt going forward along with BC.

Cuse only plays 2 games against BC and Pitt each year. That's it. Every one else rotates through on a 6 year cycle.

I do agree that, just like in football, the best teams should all face each other more often (and not inconsequentially, the non-best teams will face the best teams more frequently as well). The only problem is how do you go about doing that? Do you reduce the permanent rivals from 2 to 1? Do you expand to 20 conference games? I'm almost certain some schools will reject the permanent rival reduction immediately. I have no idea about schools' OOC scheduling practices and how additional conference games would impact that, however.

I think I'd like to see 20 conference games (2 permanent rivals, 4 rotating rivals, 8 rotating singles). You'd rotate through the conference every 3 years instead of every 6. It'd guarantee schools like FSU, Miami, Clemson and VT yearly 2-game series with at least one top school each year, which doesn't happen at times in the current setup, while also allowing the top schools to face each other more often, too.

I think the league would be smart to change that. We have a chance for some dynamite nationally televised games, and we should maximize that, IMO. Let's have four permanent home and home rivals and ten single games every year. Keep as many existing rivalries as possible, but also maximize the games between the top programs.

My suggestions:

Syracuse - Duke, Louisville, Pitt and BC
Duke - UNC, NC State, WFU and Syracuse
UNC - Duke, Louisville, NC State, WFU
Louisville - Syracuse, UNC, Pitt, Notre Dame
Pitt - Syracuse, Louisville, BC, Notre Dame
Notre Dame- Louisville, Pitt, BC, Miami
BC - Syracuse, Pitt, Notre Dame, Miami
Miami - BC, Notre Dame, FSU, GT
NC State - UNC, Duke, WFU, VT
WFU - UNC, Duke, State, VT
VT - UVa, WFU, NC State, Clemson
UVa - VT, Clemson, GT, FSU
Clemson - VT, UVa, FSU, GT
FSU - Miami, UVa, Clemson, GT
GT - Miami, UVa, Clemson, FSU

(02-20-2014 01:20 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  I think I'd like to see 20 conference games (2 permanent rivals, 4 rotating rivals, 8 rotating singles). You'd rotate through the conference every 3 years instead of every 6. It'd guarantee schools like FSU, Miami, Clemson and VT yearly 2-game series with at least one top school each year, which doesn't happen at times in the current setup, while also allowing the top schools to face each other more often, too.

I agree with the principle, but it should be 23 games. It would let us see the other teams more often and would allow for more home and home series each year. It would also give ESPN better games for TV. Sure some years Team A will play more conference road games than Team B, but in the end it will work out.