RE: ESPN Ivan Maisel: Conference Peace has Arrived..
(02-14-2014 03:14 PM)Maize Wrote: Peace in our time...the AAC has a good chance of building a very strong brand:
No more moves are expected any time soon, either, much to the dismay of Cincinnati and UConn. Both schools are trying to strike a come-hither pose that might lure the ACC or the Big Ten or the NBA Eastern or any conference that may rescue them from the American.
Of the five equity conferences, only the SEC schools have not signed their media rights to the league. No university in the conference has any desire to look elsewhere -- the SEC generates more money than the rest of the conferences. The ACC schools had never granted their rights because they didn't feel it was necessary. No one had left the league since South Carolina in 1971. But when Maryland left, and speculation over which of the league's members would go where refused to simmer, the presidents realized what they had to do.
The decision benefited not only the ACC members, but everyone else, too -- it took the most desirable schools off the market. Don't misunderstand; the ACC took action to protect itself. But the conference presidents also realized that their decision would reduce the fever pitch that had gripped the FBS the same as it had in previous rounds of conference-hopping.
"That was part of our conversation," Swofford said. "It creates stability not only for our conference but the overall landscape."
The changes are done. We have become accustomed to Nebraska in the Big Ten and Texas A&M in the SEC. Colorado has won a Pac-12 men's basketball tournament. Five of the eight programs that played Big East football in 1997 will play ACC football in 2014. Rutgers and Maryland will renew their once-annual backyard rivalries with Penn State in the Big Ten.
"Change is not easy for people," Swofford said. "It's not easy to manage. It's not easy for people to accept. But it's also a constant in life. There's just been, in terms of this particular topic, a lot more of it in a relatively condensed period of time. So it feels even more dramatic."
To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, Swofford believes intercollegiate athletics is better off now than it was 16 years ago. But the relief in his voice is apparent. Realignment is receding. At long last, we can set aside the pencils and write conference standings in ink.
Translation:
UConn, Cincinnati... The music has stopped, there are no chairs... Go over and sit in the corner peacefully with the other, ah, non-winners.
(This post was last modified: 02-14-2014 06:02 PM by BearcatJerry.)
RE: ESPN Ivan Maisel: Conference Peace has Arrived..
(02-14-2014 05:27 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:
(02-14-2014 03:14 PM)Maize Wrote: To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, Swofford believes intercollegiate athletics is better off now than it was 16 years ago.
Heh. I'll bet he does.
Quote:Realignment is receding. At long last, we can set aside the pencils and write conference standings in ink.
That is probably true. But so much crazy sh*t has happened over the past ~11 years that I just can't ever feel too certain.
at maisel and this whole thread
first, maixe starts it off with "Peace in our time". Really, seriously. That was the same phrase Neville Chamberlain used while trying to pacify nazi germany prior to the start of WWII. The very opposite of peace in our time. the uofl education pays off once again.
second, swafford is really pushing this agenda publicly while also wanting to play more SEC teams and looking at the huge disparity between the ACC and the SEC network contracts. If the SEC or Big 10 want ACC teams they will take them. The GOR can be broken. Dont believe for one second that it will somehow keep any team from leaving. Lawyers gonna lawyer.
third, the maryland lawsuit is not dead. pitt has been subpeoned and maryland was a member of the acc for a long time and knows where the bodies are buried. this is not over. hide and watch.
four, no one knows what the big 12 will do, they are cray cray...(for proof see west virginia)
five. repeat four but insert big 10 (for proof see rutgers)
six- memo to swafford. slive is your daddy, please ask him if its ok before you publicly spout off again. he doesnt want you getting embarrassed.
it aint over folks.
(This post was last modified: 02-14-2014 06:32 PM by shere khan.)
RE: ESPN Ivan Maisel: Conference Peace has Arrived..
(02-14-2014 06:29 PM)shere khan Wrote:
(02-14-2014 05:27 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:
(02-14-2014 03:14 PM)Maize Wrote: To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, Swofford believes intercollegiate athletics is better off now than it was 16 years ago.
Heh. I'll bet he does.
Quote:Realignment is receding. At long last, we can set aside the pencils and write conference standings in ink.
That is probably true. But so much crazy sh*t has happened over the past ~11 years that I just can't ever feel too certain.
at maisel and this whole thread
first, maize starts it off with "Peace in our time". Really, seriously. That was the same phrase Neville Chamberlain used while trying to pacify nazi germany prior to the start of WWII. The very opposite of peace in our time. the uofl education pays off once again.
second, swafford is really pushing this agenda publicly while also wanting to play more SEC teams and looking at the huge disparity between the ACC and the SEC network contracts. If the SEC or Big 10 want ACC teams they will take them. The GOR can be broken. Dont believe for one second that it will somehow keep any team from leaving. Lawyers gonna lawyer.
third, the maryland lawsuit is not dead. pitt has been subpeoned and maryland was a member of the acc for a long time and knows where the bodies are buried. this is not over. hide and watch.
four, no one knows what the big 12 will do, they are cray cray...(for proof see west virginia)
five. repeat four but insert big 10 (for proof see rutgers)
six- memo to swafford. slive is your daddy, please ask him if its ok before you publicly spout off again. he doesnt want you getting embarrassed.
it aint over folks.
Actually..for the AAC it needs to stop and I doubt anyone has the stomach to try to break the Big XII or ACC GoR....more importantly, Texas, Oklahoma, Florida State and North Carolina by their actions have shown they have no desire to move...
RE: ESPN Ivan Maisel: Conference Peace has Arrived..
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(02-14-2014 06:41 PM)Maize Wrote:
(02-14-2014 06:29 PM)shere khan Wrote:
(02-14-2014 05:27 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:
(02-14-2014 03:14 PM)Maize Wrote: To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, Swofford believes intercollegiate athletics is better off now than it was 16 years ago.
Heh. I'll bet he does.
Quote:Realignment is receding. At long last, we can set aside the pencils and write conference standings in ink.
That is probably true. But so much crazy sh*t has happened over the past ~11 years that I just can't ever feel too certain.
at maisel and this whole thread
first, maize starts it off with "Peace in our time". Really, seriously. That was the same phrase Neville Chamberlain used while trying to pacify nazi germany prior to the start of WWII. The very opposite of peace in our time. the uofl education pays off once again.
second, swafford is really pushing this agenda publicly while also wanting to play more SEC teams and looking at the huge disparity between the ACC and the SEC network contracts. If the SEC or Big 10 want ACC teams they will take them. The GOR can be broken. Dont believe for one second that it will somehow keep any team from leaving. Lawyers gonna lawyer.
third, the maryland lawsuit is not dead. pitt has been subpeoned and maryland was a member of the acc for a long time and knows where the bodies are buried. this is not over. hide and watch.
four, no one knows what the big 12 will do, they are cray cray...(for proof see west virginia)
five. repeat four but insert big 10 (for proof see rutgers)
six- memo to swafford. slive is your daddy, please ask him if its ok before you publicly spout off again. he doesnt want you getting embarrassed.
it aint over folks.
Actually..for the AAC it needs to stop and I doubt anyone has the stomach to try to break the Big XII or ACC GoR....more importantly, Texas, Oklahoma, Florida State and North Carolina by their actions have shown they have no desire to move...
well we shall see.
you named the four most likely to leave as the ones showing no desire to move. you see now what you did there. obvious is obvious.
RE: ESPN Ivan Maisel: Conference Peace has Arrived..
(02-14-2014 06:52 PM)shere khan Wrote: s
(02-14-2014 06:41 PM)Maize Wrote:
(02-14-2014 06:29 PM)shere khan Wrote:
(02-14-2014 05:27 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:
(02-14-2014 03:14 PM)Maize Wrote: To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, Swofford believes intercollegiate athletics is better off now than it was 16 years ago.
Heh. I'll bet he does.
Quote:Realignment is receding. At long last, we can set aside the pencils and write conference standings in ink.
That is probably true. But so much crazy sh*t has happened over the past ~11 years that I just can't ever feel too certain.
at maisel and this whole thread
first, maize starts it off with "Peace in our time". Really, seriously. That was the same phrase Neville Chamberlain used while trying to pacify nazi germany prior to the start of WWII. The very opposite of peace in our time. the uofl education pays off once again.
second, swafford is really pushing this agenda publicly while also wanting to play more SEC teams and looking at the huge disparity between the ACC and the SEC network contracts. If the SEC or Big 10 want ACC teams they will take them. The GOR can be broken. Dont believe for one second that it will somehow keep any team from leaving. Lawyers gonna lawyer.
third, the maryland lawsuit is not dead. pitt has been subpeoned and maryland was a member of the acc for a long time and knows where the bodies are buried. this is not over. hide and watch.
four, no one knows what the big 12 will do, they are cray cray...(for proof see west virginia)
five. repeat four but insert big 10 (for proof see rutgers)
six- memo to swafford. slive is your daddy, please ask him if its ok before you publicly spout off again. he doesnt want you getting embarrassed.
it aint over folks.
Actually..for the AAC it needs to stop and I doubt anyone has the stomach to try to break the Big XII or ACC GoR....more importantly, Texas, Oklahoma, Florida State and North Carolina by their actions have shown they have no desire to move...
well we shall see.
you named the four most likely to leave as the ones showing no desire to move. you see now what you did there. obvious is obvious.
Texas is making wwwwaaaayyyy to much $$$$ and enjoys being the KING of the Big XII.
UNC could have left for the B1G or SEC...They enjoy being the Kingpins in the ACC...the ECU folks would pretty much tell you the same.
RE: ESPN Ivan Maisel: Conference Peace has Arrived..
(02-14-2014 06:00 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:
(02-14-2014 03:14 PM)Maize Wrote: Peace in our time...the AAC has a good chance of building a very strong brand:
No more moves are expected any time soon, either, much to the dismay of Cincinnati and UConn. Both schools are trying to strike a come-hither pose that might lure the ACC or the Big Ten or the NBA Eastern or any conference that may rescue them from the American.
Of the five equity conferences, only the SEC schools have not signed their media rights to the league. No university in the conference has any desire to look elsewhere -- the SEC generates more money than the rest of the conferences. The ACC schools had never granted their rights because they didn't feel it was necessary. No one had left the league since South Carolina in 1971. But when Maryland left, and speculation over which of the league's members would go where refused to simmer, the presidents realized what they had to do.
The decision benefited not only the ACC members, but everyone else, too -- it took the most desirable schools off the market. Don't misunderstand; the ACC took action to protect itself. But the conference presidents also realized that their decision would reduce the fever pitch that had gripped the FBS the same as it had in previous rounds of conference-hopping.
"That was part of our conversation," Swofford said. "It creates stability not only for our conference but the overall landscape."
The changes are done. We have become accustomed to Nebraska in the Big Ten and Texas A&M in the SEC. Colorado has won a Pac-12 men's basketball tournament. Five of the eight programs that played Big East football in 1997 will play ACC football in 2014. Rutgers and Maryland will renew their once-annual backyard rivalries with Penn State in the Big Ten.
"Change is not easy for people," Swofford said. "It's not easy to manage. It's not easy for people to accept. But it's also a constant in life. There's just been, in terms of this particular topic, a lot more of it in a relatively condensed period of time. So it feels even more dramatic."
To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, Swofford believes intercollegiate athletics is better off now than it was 16 years ago. But the relief in his voice is apparent. Realignment is receding. At long last, we can set aside the pencils and write conference standings in ink.
Translation:
UConn, Cincinnati... The music has stopped, there are no chairs... Go over and sit in the corner peacefully with the other, ah, non-winners.
Yup. The Animal House clip just abut sums it up for the G5.
RE: ESPN Ivan Maisel: Conference Peace has Arrived..
(02-14-2014 06:58 PM)Maize Wrote:
(02-14-2014 06:47 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote: Unfortunately, he's 100% wrong about peace.
Peace...maybe not but a much needed lull...really don't see anything happening for 10 years...much like the lull from 2004 to 2011...
Peace is what ESPN wants, the reality is that there are a few more daggers left to be thrust before the war is over. The next moves will either happen soon, or not at all.
Edit: lol, that sounds ambiguous, it's not meant to though.
(This post was last modified: 02-14-2014 07:34 PM by Lord2FLI.)
RE: ESPN Ivan Maisel: Conference Peace has Arrived..
(02-14-2014 07:32 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote:
(02-14-2014 06:58 PM)Maize Wrote:
(02-14-2014 06:47 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote: Unfortunately, he's 100% wrong about peace.
Peace...maybe not but a much needed lull...really don't see anything happening for 10 years...much like the lull from 2004 to 2011...
Peace is what ESPN wants, the reality is that there are a few more daggers left to be thrust before the war is over. The next moves will either happen soon, or not at all.
Edit: lol, that sounds ambiguous, it's not meant to though.
The Redo they did with the Big XII in conjunction with Fox and the Redo they did with the ACC did cost them $$$...outside of the B1G in 2016 they now pretty much know how much they have to pay out the next 8-10 years...they can now focus on the up coming NBA and B1G media rights up in 2016...
RE: ESPN Ivan Maisel: Conference Peace has Arrived..
(02-14-2014 07:42 PM)Maize Wrote:
(02-14-2014 07:32 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote:
(02-14-2014 06:58 PM)Maize Wrote:
(02-14-2014 06:47 PM)Lord2FLI Wrote: Unfortunately, he's 100% wrong about peace.
Peace...maybe not but a much needed lull...really don't see anything happening for 10 years...much like the lull from 2004 to 2011...
Peace is what ESPN wants, the reality is that there are a few more daggers left to be thrust before the war is over. The next moves will either happen soon, or not at all.
Edit: lol, that sounds ambiguous, it's not meant to though.
The Redo they did with the Big XII in conjunction with Fox and the Redo they did with the ACC did cost them $$$...outside of the B1G in 2016 they now pretty much know how much they have to pay out the next 8-10 years...they can now focus on the up coming NBA and B1G media rights up in 2016...
Exactly, it's in ESPN's best interest that things calm down, and they are the master spinsters so it's no surprise they are throwing this out there. That we are seeing it might be a red flag that they are worried about something and are trying to get out ahead of it.
Granted, this is one article so the writer may have simply been bored, but if we start seeing more, then you know something is most definitely going on behind the scenes.
RE: ESPN Ivan Maisel: Conference Peace has Arrived..
(02-14-2014 08:13 PM)shere khan Wrote: Texas could become an independent tomorrow and would make just as much money if not more.
It is just that simple and could happen just that fast. People that think it is all over are just small thinkers.
Sure they could....and who do they share the LHN with....it is the WWL. Just don't see that coming up really and if they do go Indy with the LHN would not be surprised if they did a ND type deal with the ACC....
RE: ESPN Ivan Maisel: Conference Peace has Arrived..
(02-14-2014 03:49 PM)SteveUCF19 Wrote:
(02-14-2014 03:42 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:
(02-14-2014 03:39 PM)SteveUCF19 Wrote:
(02-14-2014 03:32 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:
(02-14-2014 03:30 PM)SteveUCF19 Wrote: He pretty much said that UC and UConn are acting like whores.
For good reason though. Same as all of you were doing to get out of CUSA. If in fact things have settled for a while, we just have to make the best of it. All of our schools have to maintain the success they've had and try to improve the areas where they aren't strong. If we are all stuck together, we have to figure out how to make it work and make it worth more than the table scraps that we are being paid now.
When did UCF publicly beg to get out of CUSA?
Maybe not your administration, I really wouldn't know. I know your beat writer was on that quest for you guys though. I know Memphis had FedEx money dangled out there, and ECU put together some infomercials. Maybe UCF did pledge it's undying loyalty to CUSA but if that's the case, why are you not there anymore?
There is nothing wrong with wanting to move up and better your situation. Its just that there is a proper way to do things. UCF wanted to move up, but they did it the right way. UCF probably wants to be in the B12 as much as UC does. You just wouldn't hear about it because they aren't talking about it.
Here is an example in support of UCF doing it 'the right way'. Tribble flapped his gums all the time about how their program 'deserved' to be in a bigger conference, etc. But now we know how he reasoned it and how they advanced themselves under his and Chancellor Hitt's watch. I'm over it and am glad to be with them as mates, but let's not get sanctimonious.
RE: ESPN Ivan Maisel: Conference Peace has Arrived..
(02-14-2014 09:22 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:
(02-14-2014 03:49 PM)SteveUCF19 Wrote:
(02-14-2014 03:42 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:
(02-14-2014 03:39 PM)SteveUCF19 Wrote:
(02-14-2014 03:32 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote: For good reason though. Same as all of you were doing to get out of CUSA. If in fact things have settled for a while, we just have to make the best of it. All of our schools have to maintain the success they've had and try to improve the areas where they aren't strong. If we are all stuck together, we have to figure out how to make it work and make it worth more than the table scraps that we are being paid now.
When did UCF publicly beg to get out of CUSA?
Maybe not your administration, I really wouldn't know. I know your beat writer was on that quest for you guys though. I know Memphis had FedEx money dangled out there, and ECU put together some infomercials. Maybe UCF did pledge it's undying loyalty to CUSA but if that's the case, why are you not there anymore?
There is nothing wrong with wanting to move up and better your situation. Its just that there is a proper way to do things. UCF wanted to move up, but they did it the right way. UCF probably wants to be in the B12 as much as UC does. You just wouldn't hear about it because they aren't talking about it.
Here is an example in support of UCF doing it 'the right way'. Tribble flapped his gums all the time about how their program 'deserved' to be in a bigger conference, etc. But now we know how he reasoned it and how they advanced themselves under his and Chancellor Hitt's watch. I'm over it and am glad to be with them as mates, but let's not get sanctimonious.
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ESPN Ivan Maisel: Conference Peace has Arrived..
at maisel and this whole thread
