.. and more murderers ... *cough*RayLewis*cough*

(02-03-2014 03:54 AM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  I didn't think it was just a fantastic commercial...but I think the anger over it is just ridiculous. Did that really offend people that bad? A commercial where an American patriotic song was sang in various languages offends people? And we as conservatives like to complain about the world being too PC? It's like we are just looking for something to ***** about with this one.

The Axe commercial is a different story. I can see how some wouldn't care for a commercial that depicts our enemies in a cute light....I get that. But to be up in arms over a commercial that features a patriotic song (not even our freakin national anthem) sang in various language....grow the eff up conservatives. Minor petty stuff like this is why we keep losing elections...because we pick dumb fights to fight.

We need to quit being butt hurt over stuff that in the grand scheme of things is trivial. It's a commercial for crying out loud. With a large percentage of immigrants that have come here speaking a foreign language, they struggle with English and are more comfortable speaking in their native tongue. That's why most every major metropolitan area has enclaves of ethnic groupings. San Fran with Chinatown, Boston has an Italian section, etc., etc. and those folks speak their native tongue when around other like themselves. By the second generation removed from the original immigrants - the kids are as American as anyone and are as apt to join our military as anyone else. That's how assimilation works.

(02-02-2014 11:58 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 11:45 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I'm actually going to defend Okla here on this one for one very obvious reason.

America is changing and it freaks people out. If you lived as part of the majority race where everything was geared toward you in every way and then all of the sudden, things are starting to be geared toward other types of people, that is very scary.

Okla is just afraid of the change that America is going through. Some will adjust to the change and their fear will subside. Others will resist change and become angry and bitter.

I think Okla is young enough that he will eventually accept the change.

Wow!!! Just friggin wow. You can say that yet probably won't say anything about some people clinging to a culture they never knew and hyphenate their race to prove it. So now I'm waiting for you to tell the Indians to get over the NFL Redskins.

You can also apply what you just said to all the people who come here and refuse to assimilate. They refuse to change and you find fault with true Americans who are proud of their country. You're a mess, bro.

Buttbuddy is a feelgood moron.

Who drinks coke anyway?

Tebow has a winning record as an nfl qb, and a playoff win. What do you mean teams dropped him because they were concerned about winning?

(02-03-2014 08:00 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 10:44 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I knew that commercial would have a lasting impact on one person in particular. He probably hates that there's French on bottles of Raid.

He really despises French mustard too :)

Still says "freedom fries"

(02-03-2014 08:40 AM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  Tebow has a winning record as an nfl qb, and a playoff win. What do you mean teams dropped him because they were concerned about winning?

NFL franchises figured out that Tebow's value as a player was way too small for the media circus that descends upon the team where ever he goes. If you sign him - once he proves again that he isn't very good, how do you get rid of him without a lot of dumba$$ fans ill will. In short - it's just not worth the headache for someone that would be no more that an career backup............and I don't dislike Tim Tebow, in fact, if I had a daughter I would wish she would wind up with someone like him.

(02-03-2014 08:29 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(02-03-2014 03:54 AM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  I didn't think it was just a fantastic commercial...but I think the anger over it is just ridiculous. Did that really offend people that bad? A commercial where an American patriotic song was sang in various languages offends people? And we as conservatives like to complain about the world being too PC? It's like we are just looking for something to ***** about with this one.

The Axe commercial is a different story. I can see how some wouldn't care for a commercial that depicts our enemies in a cute light....I get that. But to be up in arms over a commercial that features a patriotic song (not even our freakin national anthem) sang in various language....grow the eff up conservatives. Minor petty stuff like this is why we keep losing elections...because we pick dumb fights to fight.

We need to quit being butt hurt over stuff that in the grand scheme of things is trivial. It's a commercial for crying out loud. With a large percentage of immigrants that have come here speaking a foreign language, they struggle with English and are more comfortable speaking in their native tongue. That's why most every major metropolitan area has enclaves of ethnic groupings. San Fran with Chinatown, Boston has an Italian section, etc., etc. and those folks speak their native tongue when around other like themselves. By the second generation removed from the original immigrants - the kids are as American as anyone and are as apt to join our military as anyone else. That's how assimilation works.

Yep, first generations tend to speak only their native language, second tend to be bi-lingual, and third only English.

I think people have the wrong idea about the melting pot. The idea is achieve one culture. We have already established that long ago. I will bring up the point again that this would not have worked in the UK. They take the English language very seriously.

You cannot expect our culture to continue when you aren't proud of it. You cannot expect people to understand our foundation when they cannot understand you. Like it or not, we are an English speaking country. No one on this thread can speak Spanish, or Arabic, or Chinese - nor would you be able to function in a society that operates using those languages.

It's not the commercial that set people off as much as it is the agenda behind it. Calling someone a bigot or xenophobe because they are trying to protect an identity is the true sign of intolerance.

"Get on board with change or you are a bigot."

I think it is time that we designate English as our official language.

Once again, people are deciding to be offended by something with absolutely no malicious intent. It's just like when someone decides that being wished a "happy holiday" is a malicious attempt to subvert their cultural identity. Or how people decide to warp a PB&J sandwich to be a racist affront.

If you find yourself trying to convince other people that they should be offended too, you've probably worked yourself up for no reason.

(02-03-2014 09:55 AM)Hitch Wrote:  Once again, people are deciding to be offended by something with absolutely no malicious intent. It's just like when someone decides that being wished a "happy holiday" is a malicious attempt to subvert their cultural identity. Or how people decide to warp a PB&J sandwich to be a racist affront.

If you find yourself trying to convince other people that they should be offended too, you've probably worked yourself up for no reason.

That's your opinion. I see the malicious intent.

(02-03-2014 09:57 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(02-03-2014 09:55 AM)Hitch Wrote:  Once again, people are deciding to be offended by something with absolutely no malicious intent. It's just like when someone decides that being wished a "happy holiday" is a malicious attempt to subvert their cultural identity. Or how people decide to warp a PB&J sandwich to be a racist affront.

If you find yourself trying to convince other people that they should be offended too, you've probably worked yourself up for no reason.

That's your opinion. I see the malicious intent.

And that's YOUR opinion.

(02-03-2014 10:01 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(02-03-2014 09:57 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(02-03-2014 09:55 AM)Hitch Wrote:  Once again, people are deciding to be offended by something with absolutely no malicious intent. It's just like when someone decides that being wished a "happy holiday" is a malicious attempt to subvert their cultural identity. Or how people decide to warp a PB&J sandwich to be a racist affront.

If you find yourself trying to convince other people that they should be offended too, you've probably worked yourself up for no reason.

That's your opinion. I see the malicious intent.

And that's YOUR opinion.

Wow. Now you are finally catching on. Stop being afraid of other people's opinion.

xenophobe.

(02-03-2014 10:03 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(02-03-2014 10:01 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(02-03-2014 09:57 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(02-03-2014 09:55 AM)Hitch Wrote:  Once again, people are deciding to be offended by something with absolutely no malicious intent. It's just like when someone decides that being wished a "happy holiday" is a malicious attempt to subvert their cultural identity. Or how people decide to warp a PB&J sandwich to be a racist affront.

If you find yourself trying to convince other people that they should be offended too, you've probably worked yourself up for no reason.

That's your opinion. I see the malicious intent.

And that's YOUR opinion.

Wow. Now you are finally catching on. Stop being afraid of other people's opinion.

xenophobe.

Your opinion doesn't frighten me. It generally amuses me.

So, anyway, here's the Tebow ad.

(02-02-2014 10:20 PM)EagleX Wrote:  My only thought was, "I don't see how that's going to sell many cokes".

Their marketing team must be reaching out to a different country here in the United States...

(02-03-2014 10:06 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(02-03-2014 10:03 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(02-03-2014 10:01 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(02-03-2014 09:57 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(02-03-2014 09:55 AM)Hitch Wrote:  Once again, people are deciding to be offended by something with absolutely no malicious intent. It's just like when someone decides that being wished a "happy holiday" is a malicious attempt to subvert their cultural identity. Or how people decide to warp a PB&J sandwich to be a racist affront.

If you find yourself trying to convince other people that they should be offended too, you've probably worked yourself up for no reason.

That's your opinion. I see the malicious intent.

And that's YOUR opinion.

Wow. Now you are finally catching on. Stop being afraid of other people's opinion.

xenophobe.

Your opinion doesn't frighten me. It generally amuses me.

Sure thing. That why you immediately go for personal attacks and try to get others to join in. You want it silenced.

I stand by my opinion. The song is offensive - as it was to countless others.

(02-03-2014 09:57 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(02-03-2014 09:55 AM)Hitch Wrote:  Once again, people are deciding to be offended by something with absolutely no malicious intent. It's just like when someone decides that being wished a "happy holiday" is a malicious attempt to subvert their cultural identity. Or how people decide to warp a PB&J sandwich to be a racist affront.

If you find yourself trying to convince other people that they should be offended too, you've probably worked yourself up for no reason.

That's your opinion. I see the malicious intent.

Which is more likely:
1) Coca-Cola set out to develop an offensive Super Bowl ad as part of a malicious plot to subvert an American cultural identity, and only a small portion of viewers were able to discern its true intentions.

2) Coca-Cola made an ad that they thought would capture the universal appeal of their product as an American icon, but some people found it offensive and poorly-timed given the current political climate around the immigration debate.

My money's on #2.

(02-03-2014 10:11 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(02-03-2014 10:06 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(02-03-2014 10:03 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(02-03-2014 10:01 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(02-03-2014 09:57 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  That's your opinion. I see the malicious intent.

And that's YOUR opinion.

Wow. Now you are finally catching on. Stop being afraid of other people's opinion.

xenophobe.

Your opinion doesn't frighten me. It generally amuses me.

Sure thing. That why you immediately go for personal attacks and try to get others to join in. You want it silenced.

I stand by my opinion. The song is offensive - as it was to countless others.

Lord, I'd add paranoia to your shtick now. You keep telling me what I want, and you haven't been right yet. Maybe you should stop.

Oh, wait. Now I'm silencing you, right?

(02-03-2014 10:13 AM)Hitch Wrote:  

(02-03-2014 09:57 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(02-03-2014 09:55 AM)Hitch Wrote:  Once again, people are deciding to be offended by something with absolutely no malicious intent. It's just like when someone decides that being wished a "happy holiday" is a malicious attempt to subvert their cultural identity. Or how people decide to warp a PB&J sandwich to be a racist affront.

If you find yourself trying to convince other people that they should be offended too, you've probably worked yourself up for no reason.

That's your opinion. I see the malicious intent.

Which is more likely:
1) Coca-Cola set out to develop an offensive Super Bowl ad as part of a malicious plot to subvert an American cultural identity, and only a small portion of viewers were able to discern its true intentions.

2) Coca-Cola made an ad that they thought would capture the universal appeal of their product as an American icon, but some people found it offensive and poorly-timed given the current political climate around the immigration debate.

My money's on #2.

Why do you assume it must be either/or? There is no doubt that leftists have worked their way into corporate exec positions and BOD. It's not hard to believe they insisted on having some multi-cultural theme to their ad. They may or may not believe it to be malicious, but they fully intend to influence American identity.

(02-03-2014 10:08 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(02-02-2014 10:20 PM)EagleX Wrote:  My only thought was, "I don't see how that's going to sell many cokes".

Their marketing team must be reaching out to a different country here in the United States...

That IS the United States. Might as well get used to it. I have no idea why this commercial is causing heartburn for some folks. I watched the game with people from at least 4 different cultures that I know of, South America, Germany, Italy, and the UK. All of them migrated to the US and are now US citizens. THAT is today's United States and it's what helped made this country a place thousands around the world dream of becoming a citizen of. Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion, but the folks in that room with me last night were watching a quintisential American game and loving every minute of it. Well, at least the ones that were pulling for the Seahawks.