(01-31-2014 12:16 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 12:08 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 12:05 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 11:46 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 11:41 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  There is literally no one else trying to help support his argument. Generally, if I'm in the fray, someone will try to jump in to help him, but he is all alone on this one.

That should speak volumes.

Unless, of course, he spins it as "I don't need help because I've got it under control. It's the rest of you who are embarrasing yourselves."

You guys are arguing, but you haven't shown anything to refute what I'm saying. Our variance is 14 points; the most you guys have shown is 4. I suppose nobody else is jumping in because they don't care. I barely do, but it isn't difficult to shoot you guys down.

Alright.

Last time.


At the time of the OP, Memphis was 14-4. Iowa 15-4.

You suggested if Memphis replaced LO with a 150 RPI team, Memphis' rpi would be very close to that of Iowa (21) at the time, although the net you cast was anywhere from 13-29. Memphis was at 35.

I showed that (absent SOS ramifications-seeming part of your premise) that IF Memphis had replaced LO with a 150RPI team, Memphis' adjusted winning percentage (for RPI calculation purposes) would have gone from .732 to .741.

So, that one win would have raised Mem's AWP .009 points. Since a team's AWP is only as 25% of the total, that .009 increase is really only a .00225 to Memphis' OVERALL RPI (25% of Memphis AWP, 50% opp w/l% 25% of opp-opp w/l%).

That increase would have bumped Memphis ONE spot in realtimerpi and four spots in Warren Nolan. Still nowhere near the bump you suggested when comparing Memphis to Iowa (at 21).

That would have then had Memphis with the same record (15-4) as Iowa, an SOS 10 spots BETTER but and RPI anywhere from seven to 10 spots LOWER, which would have been completely understandable.

You choose to ignore the math that could be refuted.

You then began to claim that it is impossible for two teams to have the same record and the team with the BETTER SOS to have a WORSE RPI.

I showed you MSU,who had a BETTER record than Nova and a BETTER SOS, yet had a LOWER RPI ranking.

Nigel showed you a VCU team who had the same record as UL and WORSE SOS and a BETTER RPI than UL.

You ignore both examples.

I finally spell out the Memphis/Iowa discrepancy based upon the home loss/road win phenomena. I even "showed my work" in case you really don't undersatand the fundamentals. Nigel and Macgar both instruct you to follow along.

You choose to ignore.

And yet neither of you can show a living, breathing example of why you are right.

Rutgers - Coppin State...Is you example...Look it up...

Coppin State even has a worse record to illustrate your point...So they are rated 13 spots higher Rutgers has a higher SOS...SO lets apply your logic if Coppin State wins their next game they will fall 14 spots to be below Rutgers...Same formula...Same Math...with your crazy assumption applied.

You are arguing with math...Ok...Does someone have to show you $1,000,000 + $1,000,000 is $2,000,000 by counting it out in front of you or you wont believe it is true. I doubt I would be able to find that example either.

If we beat the #1 team our RPI will probably go up 10 spots. If Coppin State or Rutgers beats the #1 team it will probably go up 50 points. You already came up with this useless example.

193 Coppin State
211 Rutgers

You have nothing; you're hilarious.

(01-31-2014 01:18 PM)Stammers Wrote:  If we beat the #1 team our RPI will probably go up 10 spots. If Coppin State or Rutgers beats the #1 team it will probably go up 50 points. You already came up with this useless example.

193 Coppin State
211 Rutgers

You have nothing; you're hilarious.

This completely underscores your lack of understanding of the RPI.

By what basis would it bump Memphis 10 spots?

Is the win a home win or road win? Does it matter to you?

You realize a "win" vs. Arizona and a win vs. Coppin State count the same in RPI. The SOS component is what would affect Memphis' RPI.

The RPI doesn't care WHO you beat. Just THAT you beat and WHERE you beat.

Switch Memphis road loss to OSU and home loss to Cinci to wins and give Memphis a road loss to UL and a home loss to Houston and Memphis' RPI is essentially the same.

(01-31-2014 01:24 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 01:18 PM)Stammers Wrote:  If we beat the #1 team our RPI will probably go up 10 spots. If Coppin State or Rutgers beats the #1 team it will probably go up 50 points. You already came up with this useless example.

193 Coppin State
211 Rutgers

You have nothing; you're hilarious.

This completely underscores your lack of understanding of the RPI.

By what basis would it bump Memphis 10 spots?

Is the win a home win or road win? Does it matter to you?

You realize a "win" vs. Arizona and a win vs. Coppin State count the same in RPI. The SOS component is what would affect Memphis' RPI.

The RPI doesn't care WHO you beat. Just THAT you beat and WHERE you beat.

Switch Memphis road loss to OSU and home loss to Cinci to wins and give Memphis a road loss to UL and a home loss to Houston and Memphis' RPI is essentially the same.

Maybe it would be 10; maybe it would be 12, maybe it would be 8. The point is, that the boost to Rutgers would be much greater than ours would; correct?

Of course it cares who you beat, and who they have beaten.

(01-31-2014 01:18 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 12:16 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 12:08 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 12:05 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 11:46 AM)Stammers Wrote:  You guys are arguing, but you haven't shown anything to refute what I'm saying. Our variance is 14 points; the most you guys have shown is 4. I suppose nobody else is jumping in because they don't care. I barely do, but it isn't difficult to shoot you guys down.

Alright.

Last time.


At the time of the OP, Memphis was 14-4. Iowa 15-4.

You suggested if Memphis replaced LO with a 150 RPI team, Memphis' rpi would be very close to that of Iowa (21) at the time, although the net you cast was anywhere from 13-29. Memphis was at 35.

I showed that (absent SOS ramifications-seeming part of your premise) that IF Memphis had replaced LO with a 150RPI team, Memphis' adjusted winning percentage (for RPI calculation purposes) would have gone from .732 to .741.

So, that one win would have raised Mem's AWP .009 points. Since a team's AWP is only as 25% of the total, that .009 increase is really only a .00225 to Memphis' OVERALL RPI (25% of Memphis AWP, 50% opp w/l% 25% of opp-opp w/l%).

That increase would have bumped Memphis ONE spot in realtimerpi and four spots in Warren Nolan. Still nowhere near the bump you suggested when comparing Memphis to Iowa (at 21).

That would have then had Memphis with the same record (15-4) as Iowa, an SOS 10 spots BETTER but and RPI anywhere from seven to 10 spots LOWER, which would have been completely understandable.

You choose to ignore the math that could be refuted.

You then began to claim that it is impossible for two teams to have the same record and the team with the BETTER SOS to have a WORSE RPI.

I showed you MSU,who had a BETTER record than Nova and a BETTER SOS, yet had a LOWER RPI ranking.

Nigel showed you a VCU team who had the same record as UL and WORSE SOS and a BETTER RPI than UL.

You ignore both examples.

I finally spell out the Memphis/Iowa discrepancy based upon the home loss/road win phenomena. I even "showed my work" in case you really don't undersatand the fundamentals. Nigel and Macgar both instruct you to follow along.

You choose to ignore.

And yet neither of you can show a living, breathing example of why you are right.

Rutgers - Coppin State...Is you example...Look it up...

Coppin State even has a worse record to illustrate your point...So they are rated 13 spots higher Rutgers has a higher SOS...SO lets apply your logic if Coppin State wins their next game they will fall 14 spots to be below Rutgers...Same formula...Same Math...with your crazy assumption applied.

You are arguing with math...Ok...Does someone have to show you $1,000,000 + $1,000,000 is $2,000,000 by counting it out in front of you or you wont believe it is true. I doubt I would be able to find that example either.

If we beat the #1 team our RPI will probably go up 10 spots. If Coppin State or Rutgers beats the #1 team it will probably go up 50 points. You already came up with this useless example.

193 Coppin State
211 Rutgers

You have nothing; you're hilarious.

Your lack of understanding of Math is funny...

What does how much your RPI changes have to do with the math?

Deal with your assumption...You assumption proves false in a very basic example...No smoke and mirrors there...We are talking math...Numbers...Formulas...Nothing subjective...If it is true in one case it should prove true in all.

(01-31-2014 01:34 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 01:24 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 01:18 PM)Stammers Wrote:  If we beat the #1 team our RPI will probably go up 10 spots. If Coppin State or Rutgers beats the #1 team it will probably go up 50 points. You already came up with this useless example.

193 Coppin State
211 Rutgers

You have nothing; you're hilarious.

This completely underscores your lack of understanding of the RPI.

By what basis would it bump Memphis 10 spots?

Is the win a home win or road win? Does it matter to you?

You realize a "win" vs. Arizona and a win vs. Coppin State count the same in RPI. The SOS component is what would affect Memphis' RPI.

The RPI doesn't care WHO you beat. Just THAT you beat and WHERE you beat.

Switch Memphis road loss to OSU and home loss to Cinci to wins and give Memphis a road loss to UL and a home loss to Houston and Memphis' RPI is essentially the same.

Maybe it would be 10; maybe it would be 12, maybe it would be 8. The point is, that the boost to Rutgers would be much greater than ours would; correct?

Likely. But not as much because of the "win" but because of the affect of RU SOS, which would get a big bump. Memphis, with a solid SOS and an relatively slight moving AWP wouldn't get that much of a singular bump.

(01-31-2014 01:34 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 01:24 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 01:18 PM)Stammers Wrote:  If we beat the #1 team our RPI will probably go up 10 spots. If Coppin State or Rutgers beats the #1 team it will probably go up 50 points. You already came up with this useless example.

193 Coppin State
211 Rutgers

You have nothing; you're hilarious.

This completely underscores your lack of understanding of the RPI.

By what basis would it bump Memphis 10 spots?

Is the win a home win or road win? Does it matter to you?

You realize a "win" vs. Arizona and a win vs. Coppin State count the same in RPI. The SOS component is what would affect Memphis' RPI.

The RPI doesn't care WHO you beat. Just THAT you beat and WHERE you beat.

Switch Memphis road loss to OSU and home loss to Cinci to wins and give Memphis a road loss to UL and a home loss to Houston and Memphis' RPI is essentially the same.

Maybe it would be 10; maybe it would be 12, maybe it would be 8. The point is, that the boost to Rutgers would be much greater than ours would; correct?

Of course it cares who you beat, and who they have beaten.

The boost is greater because it is one extreme VS. another...The SOS bump and the relative activity of the teams around it is what would boost Rutgers...Not the win. If The #1 team lost at home to worst team in the RPI they would fall greatly also...Does this disprove anything, NO...It is still math. The loss wouldn't hurt as much as the SOS hit they would take.

Here is the major flaw in your argument...

You say AWP % doesn't matter much on one hand...Then you say winning one more game with everything else being equal would move us 10-15 spots in RPI...Do you not realize that all you are changing is AWP?

Which one is it....

(01-31-2014 01:49 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 01:34 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 01:24 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 01:18 PM)Stammers Wrote:  If we beat the #1 team our RPI will probably go up 10 spots. If Coppin State or Rutgers beats the #1 team it will probably go up 50 points. You already came up with this useless example.

193 Coppin State
211 Rutgers

You have nothing; you're hilarious.

This completely underscores your lack of understanding of the RPI.

By what basis would it bump Memphis 10 spots?

Is the win a home win or road win? Does it matter to you?

You realize a "win" vs. Arizona and a win vs. Coppin State count the same in RPI. The SOS component is what would affect Memphis' RPI.

The RPI doesn't care WHO you beat. Just THAT you beat and WHERE you beat.

Switch Memphis road loss to OSU and home loss to Cinci to wins and give Memphis a road loss to UL and a home loss to Houston and Memphis' RPI is essentially the same.

Maybe it would be 10; maybe it would be 12, maybe it would be 8. The point is, that the boost to Rutgers would be much greater than ours would; correct?

Of course it cares who you beat, and who they have beaten.

The boost is greater because it is one extreme VS. another...The SOS bump and the relative activity of the teams around it is what would boost Rutgers...Not the win. If The #1 team lost at home to worst team in the RPI they would fall greatly also...Does this disprove anything, NO...It is still math. The loss wouldn't hurt as much as the SOS hit they would take.

Of course it matters who you beat. Thank you for helping me refute Saluki's silly argument.

(01-31-2014 01:59 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 01:49 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 01:34 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 01:24 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 01:18 PM)Stammers Wrote:  If we beat the #1 team our RPI will probably go up 10 spots. If Coppin State or Rutgers beats the #1 team it will probably go up 50 points. You already came up with this useless example.

193 Coppin State
211 Rutgers

You have nothing; you're hilarious.

This completely underscores your lack of understanding of the RPI.

By what basis would it bump Memphis 10 spots?

Is the win a home win or road win? Does it matter to you?

You realize a "win" vs. Arizona and a win vs. Coppin State count the same in RPI. The SOS component is what would affect Memphis' RPI.

The RPI doesn't care WHO you beat. Just THAT you beat and WHERE you beat.

Switch Memphis road loss to OSU and home loss to Cinci to wins and give Memphis a road loss to UL and a home loss to Houston and Memphis' RPI is essentially the same.

Maybe it would be 10; maybe it would be 12, maybe it would be 8. The point is, that the boost to Rutgers would be much greater than ours would; correct?

Of course it cares who you beat, and who they have beaten.

The boost is greater because it is one extreme VS. another...The SOS bump and the relative activity of the teams around it is what would boost Rutgers...Not the win. If The #1 team lost at home to worst team in the RPI they would fall greatly also...Does this disprove anything, NO...It is still math. The loss wouldn't hurt as much as the SOS hit they would take.

Of course it matters who you beat. Thank you for helping me refute Saluki's silly argument.

NO IT MATTERS WHO YOU PLAYED AND WHERE YOU PLAYED THEM...

You can play the #1 team 2 times and lose to them every time...And play the #200 team 2 times and beat them every time and have the same RPI as a team the beat the #1 team 2 times and lost to the #200 team 2 times. SEE HOW THAT WORKS...Your SOS doesn't care who you beat or lost to that is why your RPI can go down even if you win the game.

(01-31-2014 02:01 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 01:59 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 01:49 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 01:34 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 01:24 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  This completely underscores your lack of understanding of the RPI.

By what basis would it bump Memphis 10 spots?

Is the win a home win or road win? Does it matter to you?

You realize a "win" vs. Arizona and a win vs. Coppin State count the same in RPI. The SOS component is what would affect Memphis' RPI.

The RPI doesn't care WHO you beat. Just THAT you beat and WHERE you beat.

Switch Memphis road loss to OSU and home loss to Cinci to wins and give Memphis a road loss to UL and a home loss to Houston and Memphis' RPI is essentially the same.

Maybe it would be 10; maybe it would be 12, maybe it would be 8. The point is, that the boost to Rutgers would be much greater than ours would; correct?

Of course it cares who you beat, and who they have beaten.

The boost is greater because it is one extreme VS. another...The SOS bump and the relative activity of the teams around it is what would boost Rutgers...Not the win. If The #1 team lost at home to worst team in the RPI they would fall greatly also...Does this disprove anything, NO...It is still math. The loss wouldn't hurt as much as the SOS hit they would take.

Of course it matters who you beat. Thank you for helping me refute Saluki's silly argument.

NO IT MATTERS WHO YOU PLAYED AND WHERE YOU PLAYED THEM...

You can play the #1 team 10 times and lose to them every time...And play the #200 team 10 times and beat them every time and have the same RPI as a team the beat the #1 team 10 times and lost to the #200 team 10 times. SEE HOW THAT WORKS

Win against #1 Kansas = same thing as win against #349 Presbyterian College; correct?

This thread smacks of the RPI argument last season. It could go on forever.

(01-31-2014 01:18 PM)Stammers Wrote:  If we beat the #1 team our RPI will probably go up 10 spots. If Coppin State or Rutgers beats the #1 team it will probably go up 50 points. You already came up with this useless example.

193 Coppin State
211 Rutgers

You have nothing; you're hilarious.

If Memphis beat Kansas in Memphis today, Memphis' rpi would jump from 24 to 21. Just did the math.

Hardly a 10 spot jump.

(01-31-2014 02:03 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 02:01 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 01:59 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 01:49 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 01:34 PM)Stammers Wrote:  Maybe it would be 10; maybe it would be 12, maybe it would be 8. The point is, that the boost to Rutgers would be much greater than ours would; correct?

Of course it cares who you beat, and who they have beaten.

The boost is greater because it is one extreme VS. another...The SOS bump and the relative activity of the teams around it is what would boost Rutgers...Not the win. If The #1 team lost at home to worst team in the RPI they would fall greatly also...Does this disprove anything, NO...It is still math. The loss wouldn't hurt as much as the SOS hit they would take.

Of course it matters who you beat. Thank you for helping me refute Saluki's silly argument.

NO IT MATTERS WHO YOU PLAYED AND WHERE YOU PLAYED THEM...

You can play the #1 team 10 times and lose to them every time...And play the #200 team 10 times and beat them every time and have the same RPI as a team the beat the #1 team 10 times and lost to the #200 team 10 times. SEE HOW THAT WORKS

Win against #1 Kansas = same thing as win against #349 Presbyterian College; correct?

If you played both of them yes...Doesn't matter who you beat...if you go 1-1 your SOS and your AWP will be the same.

Remember...who you PLAYED and WHERE you played, not who you BEAT as long as you have the same number of home and away wins your RPI will be affected very little.

(01-31-2014 02:04 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  This thread smacks of the RPI argument last season. It could go on forever.

I think we have mostly agreed on everything since then. I would never have bet on that being possible.

(01-31-2014 02:03 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 02:01 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 01:59 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 01:49 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 01:34 PM)Stammers Wrote:  Maybe it would be 10; maybe it would be 12, maybe it would be 8. The point is, that the boost to Rutgers would be much greater than ours would; correct?

Of course it cares who you beat, and who they have beaten.

The boost is greater because it is one extreme VS. another...The SOS bump and the relative activity of the teams around it is what would boost Rutgers...Not the win. If The #1 team lost at home to worst team in the RPI they would fall greatly also...Does this disprove anything, NO...It is still math. The loss wouldn't hurt as much as the SOS hit they would take.

Of course it matters who you beat. Thank you for helping me refute Saluki's silly argument.

NO IT MATTERS WHO YOU PLAYED AND WHERE YOU PLAYED THEM...

You can play the #1 team 10 times and lose to them every time...And play the #200 team 10 times and beat them every time and have the same RPI as a team the beat the #1 team 10 times and lost to the #200 team 10 times. SEE HOW THAT WORKS

Win against #1 Kansas = same thing as win against #349 Presbyterian College; correct?

You can switch the Memphis road loss with OSU to a win and the road win vs. Temple to a loss and the RPI would be the same.

(01-31-2014 02:06 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 02:03 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 02:01 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 01:59 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 01:49 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  The boost is greater because it is one extreme VS. another...The SOS bump and the relative activity of the teams around it is what would boost Rutgers...Not the win. If The #1 team lost at home to worst team in the RPI they would fall greatly also...Does this disprove anything, NO...It is still math. The loss wouldn't hurt as much as the SOS hit they would take.

Of course it matters who you beat. Thank you for helping me refute Saluki's silly argument.

NO IT MATTERS WHO YOU PLAYED AND WHERE YOU PLAYED THEM...

You can play the #1 team 10 times and lose to them every time...And play the #200 team 10 times and beat them every time and have the same RPI as a team the beat the #1 team 10 times and lost to the #200 team 10 times. SEE HOW THAT WORKS

Win against #1 Kansas = same thing as win against #349 Presbyterian College; correct?

If you played both of them yes...Doesn't matter who you beat...if you go 1-1 your SOS and your AWP will be the same.

If you only played and beat Kansas your RPI would go up the same as if you only played and beat Presbyterian College; correct?

(01-31-2014 02:08 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 02:03 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 02:01 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 01:59 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 01:49 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  The boost is greater because it is one extreme VS. another...The SOS bump and the relative activity of the teams around it is what would boost Rutgers...Not the win. If The #1 team lost at home to worst team in the RPI they would fall greatly also...Does this disprove anything, NO...It is still math. The loss wouldn't hurt as much as the SOS hit they would take.

Of course it matters who you beat. Thank you for helping me refute Saluki's silly argument.

NO IT MATTERS WHO YOU PLAYED AND WHERE YOU PLAYED THEM...

You can play the #1 team 10 times and lose to them every time...And play the #200 team 10 times and beat them every time and have the same RPI as a team the beat the #1 team 10 times and lost to the #200 team 10 times. SEE HOW THAT WORKS

Win against #1 Kansas = same thing as win against #349 Presbyterian College; correct?

You can switch the Memphis road loss with OSU to a win and the road win vs. Temple to a loss and the RPI would be the same.

If you only played and beat Kansas your RPI would go up the same as if you only played and beat Presbyterian College; correct?

(01-31-2014 02:09 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 02:08 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 02:03 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 02:01 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 01:59 PM)Stammers Wrote:  Of course it matters who you beat. Thank you for helping me refute Saluki's silly argument.

NO IT MATTERS WHO YOU PLAYED AND WHERE YOU PLAYED THEM...

You can play the #1 team 10 times and lose to them every time...And play the #200 team 10 times and beat them every time and have the same RPI as a team the beat the #1 team 10 times and lost to the #200 team 10 times. SEE HOW THAT WORKS

Win against #1 Kansas = same thing as win against #349 Presbyterian College; correct?

You can switch the Memphis road loss with OSU to a win and the road win vs. Temple to a loss and the RPI would be the same.

If you only played and beat Kansas your RPI would go up the same as if you only played and beat Presbyterian College; correct?

No. Kansas would be a bigger bump because of Kansas' AWP and their Opp AWP. The 25% for the "win" is the same for Memphis' AWP.

(01-31-2014 02:08 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 02:06 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 02:03 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 02:01 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 01:59 PM)Stammers Wrote:  Of course it matters who you beat. Thank you for helping me refute Saluki's silly argument.

NO IT MATTERS WHO YOU PLAYED AND WHERE YOU PLAYED THEM...

You can play the #1 team 10 times and lose to them every time...And play the #200 team 10 times and beat them every time and have the same RPI as a team the beat the #1 team 10 times and lost to the #200 team 10 times. SEE HOW THAT WORKS

Win against #1 Kansas = same thing as win against #349 Presbyterian College; correct?

If you played both of them yes...Doesn't matter who you beat...if you go 1-1 your SOS and your AWP will be the same.

If you only played and beat Kansas your RPI would go up the same as if you only played and beat Presbyterian College; correct?

No WHO you played matters...Not who you BEAT...How hard is that to understand.

(01-31-2014 02:11 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 02:09 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 02:08 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 02:03 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 02:01 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  NO IT MATTERS WHO YOU PLAYED AND WHERE YOU PLAYED THEM...

You can play the #1 team 10 times and lose to them every time...And play the #200 team 10 times and beat them every time and have the same RPI as a team the beat the #1 team 10 times and lost to the #200 team 10 times. SEE HOW THAT WORKS

Win against #1 Kansas = same thing as win against #349 Presbyterian College; correct?

You can switch the Memphis road loss with OSU to a win and the road win vs. Temple to a loss and the RPI would be the same.

If you only played and beat Kansas your RPI would go up the same as if you only played and beat Presbyterian College; correct?

No. Kansas would be a bigger bump because of Kansas' AWP and their Opp AWP. The 25% for the "win" is the same for Memphis' AWP.

Don't know how else to explain WHO you played matters...not who you BEAT. He is having such a hard time with that concept.

I am starting to think he is doing this intentionally trying to get us to just give up because he is stubborn...The alternative is just sad.