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(01-31-2014 12:03 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nfl/story...os-angeles

Let's see. They are in a division with Seattle, San Francisco and Arizona. Think the NFL hasn't always considered this to be the end game for this franchise?

L.A. is Charlie Brown and the NFL is Lucy.

If he wouldn't have bought the land from wal-mart which tried to put a store on the land, it would make more sense he is wanting to build a stadium on site. IT seems he is just a walmart insider who got a deal on some land. As for LA and the NFL, i think they should go 2 teams when they return. 1 from the chargers or raiders whoever doesn't get a stadium deal and whoever moves into LA, probably 1 from bill, rams, jaguars. OR i guess they could just move the chargers and raiders to LA but the NFL might want more than 3 teams in CA. I mean is the LA coliseum or rose bowl worse than the current home of either the chargers or raiders?

(01-31-2014 01:07 PM)Wedge Wrote:  L.A. is Charlie Brown and the NFL is Lucy.

I think the people of St. Louis are being toyed with here more than the people of LA. Threatening to move a team to LA is how you wrangle tens of millions of free money from the city you're in. Meanwhile people who live here just go on with our lives which we enjoy just fine without a NFL team.

Kroenke is a major developer him buying land is nothing new.

(01-31-2014 01:11 PM)bluesox Wrote:  I mean is the LA coliseum or rose bowl worse than the current home of either the chargers or raiders?

The Rose Bowl is great but (a) isn't chock full of the luxury boxes and premium seating that NFL owners demand, and (b) has too many seats in the minds of NFL owners. The NFL would have the same complaints about most of the larger college stadiums.

The Coliseum needs a lot of work. USC just took over management of it and they need to raise money for improvements, including not only more amenities but also basic things like more and better restrooms and ADA compliance. Best guess is that the Coliseum is still 5 years away from being where USC wants it, let alone what the NFL would want, and the Coliseum also has the "too many seats/not enough suites" problem.

The Rose Bowl can host an NFL team while a new stadium is built, but the NFL isn't going to allow that unless the new stadium has approvals and a definite timeline to completion.

Kroenke has enough money to make it happen, though, if the NFL allows it. But who knows whether he's just bluffing to try to shake down Missouri for a new St. Louis stadium. He could easily flip that Inglewood parcel to another developer if he doesn't use it.

The Farmers Field idea is probably overall the best one because of the expansion to LA Convention Center. I would think a switcheroo with the Dodgers maybe would be better, build a new Dodgers park there and build the football stadium at Chavez Ravine.

LA has already had 2 teams and both left. St. Louis lost the Cardinals and now being jacked around again by the Rams whom moved there from LA. Soap Operas have more believable scripts.

Haha man the LA Rams with Jerome Bettis and Isaac Bruce!

St. Louis knew the requirements the Edward Jones Dome had to meet to assure the Rams remaining. Doesn't sound like they're meeting them.

(01-31-2014 01:33 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  The Farmers Field idea is probably overall the best one because of the expansion to LA Convention Center. I would think a switcheroo with the Dodgers maybe would be better, build a new Dodgers park there and build the football stadium at Chavez Ravine.

Agreed on the Farmers Field site but the Dodgers aren't going anywhere.

(01-31-2014 01:33 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  The Farmers Field idea is probably overall the best one because of the expansion to LA Convention Center. I would think a switcheroo with the Dodgers maybe would be better, build a new Dodgers park there and build the football stadium at Chavez Ravine.

That would have been like asking the Yankees to move so the NJ Nets could have a better spot for their stadium. Lol.

The Rams belong in LA. The Chargers wouldnt work and neither would the Raiders (I hate those asshats in Oakland). If I had my druthers, i'd like the Rams back in LA, the Cards back in STL, and the Jags in Orlando. Don't think any of those things will happen, but it would be nice. BTW, Qualcomm (will always be Jack Murphy stadium to me) is a much better stadium than the Rose Bowl or the Colosseum. Not even close.

Not that I think the Rose Bowl is the final answer at all for an LA NFL team, but it does now have a fair amount of luxury suites.

(01-31-2014 01:43 PM)esayem Wrote:  Haha man the LA Rams with Jerome Bettis and Isaac Bruce!

Haha back; the St. Louis Rams with Erick Dickerson and Chuck Knox.

The Rams should have never left L.A., because if St. Louis couldn't even keep the horrible Cardinals then St. Louis doesn't need a team.

(01-31-2014 04:21 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(01-31-2014 01:43 PM)esayem Wrote:  Haha man the LA Rams with Jerome Bettis and Isaac Bruce!

Haha back; the St. Louis Rams with Erick Dickerson and Chuck Knox.

The Rams should have never left L.A., because if St. Louis couldn't even keep the horrible Cardinals then St. Louis doesn't need a team.

If Kansas City, which can't even build an airport the right way, and fails at pretty much everything else they try to accomplish, manages to keep the Chiefs happy, then St Louis certainly doesn't deserve the Rams.

(01-31-2014 01:33 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  The Farmers Field idea is probably overall the best one because of the expansion to LA Convention Center. I would think a switcheroo with the Dodgers maybe would be better, build a new Dodgers park there and build the football stadium at Chavez Ravine.

I don't think the Dodgers would ever go for that but I do agree that would be the best solution for all involved. Jamming a football stadium and parking considerations into LA Live is going to be a TIGHT squeeze - much more so than a 50K seat baseball stadium. In fact a baseball stadium would fit PERFECTLY into that area.

Still the Dodgers are never going to look at things like that so we can all for get about that.

Finally, I don't think the Rams are going anywhere. I think this is a ploy that just happened to get leaked out to the media to put some pressure on the Missouri politicos. Kroenke is about as Missouri loyal as they come and I don't think he wants to move the Rams. I think he wants to pressure the city of St. Louis to build him something similar to what the Irsays have in Indianapolis - something capable of hosting Super Bowls, college bowl games, Final Fours, etc.

By not putting a team in Los Angeles for all these many years, that has allowed the NFL to leverage the hell out of every other city in the league.

The Rams should go to LA and the Jaguars need to go to San Antonio.

It's ironic that Los Angeles, one of the most liberal areas the country, is so steadfastly refusing to put up government funds for the NFL while everyone else is falling over themselves to stuff hundreds of millions of free money into the pockets of the super rich who own and run NFL teams. Especially all the red states which you would have expected to be against government subsidies for rich people.

The Rams are going to stay in St. Louis because the cost of a privately funded stadium in LA is going to be too high. And the politicians in Missouri are going to pony up for money to subsidize Kroenke the billionaire.