(01-20-2014 11:29 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  actually, Westboro is a Marxist organization funded by the Tides foundation with the intention of aiding the new atheist movement.

You must show me evidence of this.

Shocked y'all are bashing the WBC. They follow the bible to a T. Seems to be the most logical way of going about being a Christian.

(01-20-2014 11:35 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Because true atheists don't need a God to not believe in..

The new atheist movement sees religion as a constant reminder of their lack of accountability.

Even if true, that still doesn't explain how atheism's growth is based on the fear of mortality.

The fear of mortality is the engine that's driven religion since the beginning. Now you go an apply it to atheism?

(01-20-2014 11:36 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:29 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  actually, Westboro is a Marxist organization funded by the Tides foundation with the intention of aiding the new atheist movement.

You must show me evidence of this.

Shocked y'all are bashing the WBC. They follow the bible to a T. Seems to be the most logical way of going about being a Christian.

No they don't. Who here is a true Christian and claims that God hates fags, or anybody? Homosexualism is an abomination, nobody hates gays. That's a huge difference. They don't follow sh*t in the Bible.

(01-20-2014 11:39 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:35 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Because true atheists don't need a God to not believe in..

The new atheist movement sees religion as a constant reminder of their lack of accountability.

Even if true, that still doesn't explain how atheism's growth is based on the fear of mortality.

The fear of mortality is the engine that's driven religion since the beginning. Now you go an apply it to atheism?

I think I have addressed that already. You have those pushing it and the useful idiots who adopt it. Those who push it exploit their followers fears of being held accountable by God and what will happen to them after they die.

Those pushing it know their agenda is easier to implement without religion interfering.

(01-20-2014 11:43 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  No they don't. Who here is a true Christian and claims that God hates fags, or anybody? Homosexualism is an abomination, nobody hates gays. That's a huge difference. They don't follow sh*t in the Bible.

He doesn't seem love gays. They do follow the bible.

Homosexual acts are an abomination to God. Leviticus 18:22

If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. Leviticus 20:13

(01-20-2014 11:21 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:20 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:13 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:09 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Today's new atheism is also a religion.

That is false. Religion is the institutioned concerned with the worship of God. Atheism is clearly not a religion. That is insane. There is no "new" atheism anyway.

actually it is not. It meets the definition of religion. Religion must meet 3 requirements.

1. Faith
2. Following
3 Prophets

It has 1/3. It has a following. Atheists and agnostics are non-religious by definition.

Other than the door to door Jehovah's witnesses, I have not had any religion shoved down my throat other than "atheists", though nobody is truly atheist. Everyone strives for the ideal, which by definition is God.

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(01-20-2014 11:51 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I think I have addressed that already. You have those pushing it and the useful idiots who adopt it. Those who push it exploit their followers fears of being held accountable by God and what will happen to them after they die.

Those pushing it know their agenda is easier to implement without religion interfering.

How would that fear drive someone to adopt atheism? Seems just the opposite to me.

(01-20-2014 11:51 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Other than the door to door Jehovah's witnesses, I have not had any religion shoved down my throat other than "atheists", though nobody is truly atheist. Everyone strives for the ideal, which by definition is God.

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How has atheism been shoved down your throat? Universities everywhere just got off a month long break. Federal and state employees had time off too. War on Christmas.

(01-20-2014 11:52 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:51 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I think I have addressed that already. You have those pushing it and the useful idiots who adopt it. Those who push it exploit their followers fears of being held accountable by God and what will happen to them after they die.

Those pushing it know their agenda is easier to implement without religion interfering.

How would that fear drive someone to adopt atheism? Seems just the opposite to me.

Not true atheism, new atheism. It's easier to say "who cares, God doesn't exist anyway." than to live a Godly existence. However, they are not truly convinced so they rail against those who remind them they may be wrong.

(01-20-2014 11:51 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:43 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  No they don't. Who here is a true Christian and claims that God hates fags, or anybody? Homosexualism is an abomination, nobody hates gays. That's a huge difference. They don't follow sh*t in the Bible.

He doesn't seem love gays. They do follow the bible.

Homosexual acts are an abomination to God. Leviticus 18:22

If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. Leviticus 20:13

He recognizes everyone sons and calls for us to repent and strive to sin no more. If someone has unwanted same-sex attractions and acts on them and later asks for forgiveness, they committed a sin no different than premarital sex or adultery. Those who are "gay" and practice gay pride, try to spread their disease and have no shame will probably have some explaining to do.

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(01-20-2014 11:54 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:51 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Other than the door to door Jehovah's witnesses, I have not had any religion shoved down my throat other than "atheists", though nobody is truly atheist. Everyone strives for the ideal, which by definition is God.

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How has atheism been shoved down your throat? Universities everywhere just got off a month long break. Federal and state employees had time off too. War on Christmas.

I think it is pretty clear, and laughing about it only reveals your level of uncomfortableness as we approach the truth.

Go to any online discussion about religion and look at the new atheists denigrate anyone who chooses to believe in the Christian faith.

(01-20-2014 11:54 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:51 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Other than the door to door Jehovah's witnesses, I have not had any religion shoved down my throat other than "atheists", though nobody is truly atheist. Everyone strives for the ideal, which by definition is God.

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How has atheism been shoved down your throat? Universities everywhere just got off a month long break. Federal and state employees had time off too. War on Christmas.

I get preached to by atheists trying to convert me constantly.

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(01-20-2014 11:56 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:52 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:51 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I think I have addressed that already. You have those pushing it and the useful idiots who adopt it. Those who push it exploit their followers fears of being held accountable by God and what will happen to them after they die.

Those pushing it know their agenda is easier to implement without religion interfering.

How would that fear drive someone to adopt atheism? Seems just the opposite to me.

Not true atheism, new atheism. It's easier to say "who cares, God doesn't exist anyway." than to live a Godly existence. However, they are not truly convinced so they rail against those who remind them they may be wrong.

Fear doesn't drive someone to stick their head in the sand. I've never heard someone use this argument before but it is one of the silliest things I've ever heard. Fear of mortality leads you to Godly religions. People's atheism and lack of fear of God and his potential punishments comes from a logical conclusion that they do not exist. It would be absurd to disbelieve something because you fear it.

(01-20-2014 11:51 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:43 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  No they don't. Who here is a true Christian and claims that God hates fags, or anybody? Homosexualism is an abomination, nobody hates gays. That's a huge difference. They don't follow sh*t in the Bible.

He doesn't seem love gays. They do follow the bible.

Homosexual acts are an abomination to God. Leviticus 18:22

If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. Leviticus 20:13

All sin (e.g., murder, adultery, homosexuality, promiscuity, lying, cheating, stealing, pride, idol worship, etc.) is an abomination to God. He hates sin and not the person committing the act of sin. The Old Testament did require blood/sacrifice to atone for sin. The New Testament required God's (sinless) Son to die and pay the price for ALL sin for ALL time that any man or woman can be forgiven and redeemed through belief in Christ Jesus.

(01-20-2014 12:01 PM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:56 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:52 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:51 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I think I have addressed that already. You have those pushing it and the useful idiots who adopt it. Those who push it exploit their followers fears of being held accountable by God and what will happen to them after they die.

Those pushing it know their agenda is easier to implement without religion interfering.

How would that fear drive someone to adopt atheism? Seems just the opposite to me.

Not true atheism, new atheism. It's easier to say "who cares, God doesn't exist anyway." than to live a Godly existence. However, they are not truly convinced so they rail against those who remind them they may be wrong.

Fear doesn't drive someone to stick their head in the sand. I've never heard someone use this argument before but it is one of the silliest things I've ever heard. Fear of mortality leads you to Godly religions. People's atheism and lack of fear of God and his potential punishments comes from a logical conclusion that they do not exist. It would be absurd to disbelieve something because you fear it.

Not true. Atheism is the path to do what you want with no consequences and no judgement. The result has been moral rot at an exponential rate. Anyway, if I am right, I'll have a good afterlife and you'll burn for eternity. If you are right, we have no soul and we both biodegrade the same. I like my position better.

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(01-20-2014 11:36 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:29 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  actually, Westboro is a Marxist organization funded by the Tides foundation with the intention of aiding the new atheist movement.

You must show me evidence of this.

Shocked y'all are bashing the WBC. They follow the bible to a T. Seems to be the most logical way of going about being a Christian.

Gross biblical ignorance for an atheist on parade yet again.

(01-20-2014 12:01 PM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:56 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:52 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:51 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I think I have addressed that already. You have those pushing it and the useful idiots who adopt it. Those who push it exploit their followers fears of being held accountable by God and what will happen to them after they die.

Those pushing it know their agenda is easier to implement without religion interfering.

How would that fear drive someone to adopt atheism? Seems just the opposite to me.

Not true atheism, new atheism. It's easier to say "who cares, God doesn't exist anyway." than to live a Godly existence. However, they are not truly convinced so they rail against those who remind them they may be wrong.

Fear doesn't drive someone to stick their head in the sand. I've never heard someone use this argument before but it is one of the silliest things I've ever heard. Fear of mortality leads you to Godly religions. People's atheism and lack of fear of God and his potential punishments comes from a logical conclusion that they do not exist. It would be absurd to disbelieve something because you fear it.

But that is where your mistake lies. That is not a logical conclusion. Therefore those who sign up for the Bill Mahar version of atheism are not looking at it from a logical standpoint.

They have merely convinced themselves they are being logical.

(01-20-2014 11:51 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 11:43 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  No they don't. Who here is a true Christian and claims that God hates fags, or anybody? Homosexualism is an abomination, nobody hates gays. That's a huge difference. They don't follow sh*t in the Bible.

He doesn't seem love gays. They do follow the bible.

Homosexual acts are an abomination to God. Leviticus 18:22

If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. Leviticus 20:13

You are making a fool of yourself.

Don't talk about things you don't even begin to understand, even on its most basic levels.

and when those who are afraid do not turn to God, they turn to other vices like drugs.

(01-20-2014 11:56 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  He recognizes everyone sons and calls for us to repent and strive to sin no more. If someone has unwanted same-sex attractions and acts on them and later asks for forgiveness, they committed a sin no different than premarital sex or adultery. Those who are "gay" and practice gay pride, try to spread their disease and have no shame will probably have some explaining to do.

Man A:

Raped a toddler. Begged forgiveness in his thoughts during prison stay. Dies. Eternal Bliss

Man B:

Used the intelligent mind God granted him to come to the conclusion that there is no God. Lives morally responsible life. Harms no one. Dies. Eternal hellfire.

Seems like a legit way to determine eternal fate.

(01-20-2014 12:01 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  I get preached to by atheists trying to convert me constantly.

Where? I've never had that experience.

(01-20-2014 11:59 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I think it is pretty clear, and laughing about it only reveals your level of uncomfortableness as we approach the truth.

Go to any online discussion about religion and look at the new atheists denigrate anyone who chooses to believe in the Christian faith.

My laughing reveals amusement at the idiocy of that notion. Nothing more.