As we approach signing day, in case you are interested.

http://247sports.com/Season/2014-Footbal...amRankings
UC at #51

Link to the top recruiters, http://247sports.com/Season/2014-Footbal...erence=AAC

Prunty and Clinkscale #2 and #3, #1 is Raymond Woodie at USF.



247Sports Composite Team Ranking

The Chase for the Recruiting Champion powered by 247Sports Composite
Team Total Five Star Four Star Three Star Avg Points
1 Alabama Alabama 24 4 14 6 93.16 307.82 ▼
2 Ohio State Ohio State 21 1 15 5 92.83 293.01 ▼
3
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Texas A&M Texas A&M 21 3 13 5 91.78 279.08 ▼
4 Florida State Florida State 29 1 14 13 89.52 276.66 ▼
5
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LSU LSU 18 3 11 4 92.57 276.57 ▼
6
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Tennessee Tennessee 33 0 16 17 89.18 271.87 ▼
7 Auburn Auburn 21 2 9 10 90.08 265.81 ▼
8 Notre Dame Notre Dame 22 0 16 6 90.30 262.30 ▼
9
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Florida Florida 21 2 6 13 89.82 260.29 ▼
10
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Miami Miami 26 1 7 18 88.47 257.25 ▼
11
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Georgia Georgia 16 1 11 4 92.00 253.85 ▼
12 Texas Texas 21 0 7 14 88.59 236.86 ▼
13 Ole Miss Ole Miss 23 0 6 17 88.03 234.88 ▼
14 Michigan Michigan 16 1 7 8 89.92 233.98 ▼
15
UP 1
Oregon Oregon 17 0 8 8 88.97 230.99 ▼
16
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Clemson Clemson 18 0 9 9 88.32 227.54 ▼
17
UP 12
Oklahoma Oklahoma 21 1 5 14 86.96 224.61 ▼
18
UP 10
USC USC 17 0 7 9 88.47 223.32 ▼
19
UP 21
UCLA UCLA 17 0 9 8 88.35 223.06 ▼
20
UP 5
South Carolina South Carolina 17 0 7 10 88.43 220.42 ▼
21
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Virginia Tech Virginia Tech 27 0 4 23 86.06 217.50 ▼
22
UP 1
Stanford Stanford 17 0 6 11 88.13 217.32 ▼
23
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Arizona State Arizona State 25 0 7 17 86.32 217.00 ▼
24
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Baylor Baylor 28 1 3 23 84.67 216.55 ▼
25
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Kentucky Kentucky 24 0 5 18 86.48 216.50 ▼
26
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Arizona Arizona 28 0 6 21 84.98 215.38 ▼
27
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North Carolina North Carolina 21 0 3 18 86.38 213.65 ▼
28
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Penn State Penn State 21 0 4 17 86.82 212.81 ▼
29
UP 7
Virginia Virginia 16 2 2 11 87.27 210.15 ▼
30
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Oklahoma State Oklahoma State 25 0 4 20 85.26 210.02 ▼
31
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Wisconsin Wisconsin 24 0 4 17 84.79 207.68 ▼
32
UP 2
Arkansas Arkansas 20 0 3 16 86.12 205.23 ▼
33
DOWN -1
Michigan State Michigan State 19 0 1 18 86.06 195.26 ▼
34
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N.C. State N.C. State 26 0 2 21 83.83 194.12 ▼
35 Missouri Missouri 26 0 3 23 84.40 193.32 ▼
36
UP 1
Nebraska Nebraska 20 0 1 18 84.72 189.55 ▼
37
UP 1
West Virginia West Virginia 19 0 1 18 85.13 187.14 ▼
38
UP 3
Northwestern Northwestern 15 0 4 10 86.39 186.46 ▼
39
UP 5
Pittsburgh Pittsburgh 22 0 2 18 84.22 186.18 ▼
40
UP 3
Texas Tech Texas Tech 26 0 0 25 84.18 185.83 ▼
41
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Mississippi State Mississippi State 18 0 3 15 85.21 185.62 ▼
42
UP 3
South Florida South Florida 24 0 0 23 84.08 183.62 ▼
43
DOWN -1
Rutgers Rutgers 23 0 1 20 83.89 182.72 ▼
44
DOWN -13
Louisville Louisville 18 0 0 18 85.32 178.93 ▼
45
UP 1
Boston College Boston College 25 0 0 22 83.22 175.78 ▼
46
UP 13
Utah Utah 22 0 1 16 82.69 171.69 ▼
47 Kansas State Kansas State 18 0 0 18 83.97 168.27 ▼
48 Iowa Iowa 19 0 0 17 83.04 167.51 ▼
49
UP 1
Georgia Tech Georgia Tech 19 0 0 19 83.78 164.70 ▼
50
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Washington State Washington State 20 0 0 18 83.00 164.20 ▼
51 Cincinnati Cincinnati 26 0 1 15 80.74 161.42 ▼
52 Maryland Maryland 14 0 3 9 84.15 160.74 ▼
53
DOWN -23
Vanderbilt Vanderbilt 12 0 2 10 86.49 159.82 ▼
54
DOWN -1
Iowa State Iowa State 22 0 1 18 81.61 156.28 ▼
55
UP 5
California California 14 0 1 11 83.85 156.21 ▼
56
UP 10
Indiana Indiana 18 0 1 15 82.81 155.96 ▼
57
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Duke Duke 16 0 0 16 83.76 155.41 ▼
58
UP 3
Syracuse Syracuse 15 0 1 13 83.83 154.40 ▼
59
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Illinois Illinois 18 0 0 16 82.48 153.83 ▼
60
DOWN -5
Purdue Purdue 18 0 0 17 82.63 152.51 ▼
61
DOWN -4
Western Michigan Western Michigan 28 0 0 16 80.22 151.85 ▼
62
DOWN -4
Brigham Young Brigham Young 16 0 0 11 82.53 151.58 ▼
63
UP 1
TCU TCU 13 0 0 12 84.16 147.78 ▼
64
DOWN -2
Oregon State Oregon State 22 0 0 16 81.21 147.29 ▼
65
DOWN -2
Houston Houston 25 0 0 19 81.03 144.55 ▼
66
UP 1
Minnesota Minnesota 13 0 1 9 83.45 143.29 ▼
67
DOWN -2
Colorado Colorado 20 0 0 12 79.73 139.92 ▼
68
UP 1
San Diego State San Diego State 21 0 0 12 79.20 136.24 ▼
69
UP 1
Wake Forest Wake Forest 14 0 0 13 82.48 133.43 ▼
70
UP 1
Kansas Kansas 13 0 1 9 82.59 131.92 ▼
71
UP 1
Temple Temple 24 0 0 11 78.05 130.55 ▼
72
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Western Kentucky Western Kentucky 28 0 0 10 77.60 129.87 ▼
73
UP 1
San Jose State San Jose State 19 0 0 9 79.50 128.95 ▼
74
UP 2
UCF UCF 12 0 0 11 82.96 127.86 ▼
75 Tulane Tulane 23 0 0 8 77.83 126.01 ▼
76
UP 1
Memphis Memphis 17 0 0 9 79.67 124.10 ▼
77
UP 1
SMU SMU 19 0 0 8 79.46 120.13 ▼
78
DOWN -5
East Carolina East Carolina 17 0 0 6 79.68 120.03 ▼
79
UP 11
Marshall Marshall 19 0 0 8 78.05 119.88 ▼
80
DOWN -1
Old Dominion Old Dominion 24 0 0 8 77.11 119.60 ▼
81
DOWN -1
Rice Rice 19 0 0 5 79.11 116.37 ▼
82
UP 15
Washington Washington 9 0 0 9 84.08 112.68 ▼
83 Arkansas State Arkansas State 17 0 0 7 78.93 111.31 ▼
84
UP 14
Colorado State Colorado State 21 0 0 6 76.82 111.07 ▼
85 Tulsa Tulsa 15 0 0 6 79.72 110.85 ▼
86
UP 9
Ball State Ball State 18 0 0 6 78.57 110.80 ▼
87
DOWN -6
Appalachian State Appalachian State 23 0 0 7 76.67 109.59 ▼
88
DOWN -6
Northern Illinois Northern Illinois 17 0 0 6 78.79 109.31 ▼
89
UP 3
Buffalo Buffalo 20 0 0 6 77.12 108.91 ▼
90
UP 4
Southern Miss Southern Miss 15 0 0 7 79.50 108.82 ▼
91
UP 2
Fresno State Fresno State 14 0 0 6 79.24 106.17 ▼
92
UP 10
Toledo Toledo 19 0 0 5 77.63 105.74 ▼
93
DOWN -7
Texas State Texas State 23 0 0 3 77.77 104.54 ▼
94
DOWN -7
Ohio Ohio 19 0 0 6 76.86 104.13 ▼
95
DOWN -6
Nevada Nevada 24 0 0 5 75.85 103.97 ▼
96
DOWN -8
Georgia State Georgia State 22 0 0 7 76.30 103.04 ▼
97
DOWN -6
Louisiana-Lafayette Louisiana-Lafayette 18 0 0 4 76.46 100.86 ▼
98
UP 17
Boise State Boise State 13 0 1 4 78.23 99.28 ▼
99
DOWN -15
FIU FIU 25 0 0 3 75.51 98.93 ▼
100
DOWN -4
Louisiana Tech Louisiana Tech 14 0 0 4 78.93 98.06 ▼
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Football Recruiting

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Scout has us at #49, as does Rivals.
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/re...14/all/all
http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=9&c=14&yr=2014

Off Def SpT HS JC Avg
26. North Carolina State 26 ACC 2404 0 0 2 22 13 11 2 26 0 3.00
27. Stanford 17 Pac-12 2381 3 0 6 11 5 12 0 17 0 3.35
28. Penn State 21 Big Ten 2342 0 0 4 16 12 9 0 20 1 3.14
29. Missouri 27 SEC 2339 0 0 4 19 16 11 0 26 1 3.00
30. Texas Tech 26 Big 12 2314 0 0 4 19 14 12 0 20 6 3.04
31. Virginia Tech 24 ACC 2295 0 0 4 16 16 8 0 24 0 3.00
32. Michigan State 19 Big Ten 2248 0 0 3 16 8 10 1 18 1 3.16
33. Clemson 17 ACC 2180 1 0 6 10 9 7 1 17 0 3.29
34. Nebraska 20 Big Ten 2110 0 0 4 16 10 9 1 16 4 3.20
35. Arkansas 20 SEC 2082 1 0 4 15 10 9 1 18 2 3.15
36. South Carolina 14 SEC 1982 0 0 6 8 6 8 0 13 1 3.43
37. Louisville 20 Big East 1966 0 0 2 17 9 11 0 19 1 3.05
38. Rutgers 23 Big East 1798 1 0 1 18 11 12 0 23 0 2.87
39. Pittsburgh 20 ACC 1754 0 0 2 15 15 5 0 20 0 2.95
40. Iowa 19 Big Ten 1713 0 0 1 16 6 11 2 18 1 2.95
41. Mississippi State 18 SEC 1637 0 0 3 12 10 7 1 16 2 3.00
42. South Florida 23 Big East 1619 1 0 2 19 10 13 0 19 4 3.00
43. Northwestern 15 Big Ten 1609 0 0 3 11 8 7 0 15 0 3.13
44. Virginia 16 ACC 1550 2 2 2 6 9 7 0 16 0 2.69
45. Western Michigan 27 MAC 1543 0 0 0 15 12 14 1 25 2 2.56
46. Indiana 18 Big Ten 1473 0 0 1 14 10 8 0 17 1 2.89
47. TCU 13 Big 12 1463 0 0 3 9 7 6 0 11 2 3.15
48. West Virginia 19 Big 12 1444 0 0 1 15 11 8 0 13 6 2.89
49. Cincinnati 25 Big East 1408 0 0 0 14 12 13 0 20 5 2.52
50. Georgia Tech 19 ACC 1403 0 0 0 16 7 12 0 19 0 2.84

49 aint terrible. Comparative to other years?

If those are accurate they don't seem too bad. Somebody must have been recruiting for UC.

(01-15-2014 03:43 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  49 aint terrible. Comparative to other years?

To show how weird these rankings are......I think Dantonio's first
2 Classes were in the 80's. CBJ might have had a class ranked as
high as #49, but CBJ and BK's classes were pretty much from the
#50's to #80's depending on the service, Scout Rivals etc.
Rivals had our 2007 class at #90.

(01-15-2014 03:53 PM)bearcatfan Wrote:  If those are accurate they don't seem too bad. Somebody must have been recruiting for UC.

Prunty is doing a really good job for UC. We are ahead of 18-20 P5 programs and the only G5 school with a better ranking is USF. (averaging out the 3
main services, 247, Scout and Rivals) There should hopefully be some nice surprises that boost class in the next couple of weeks.

Hmm, why is everyone acting like recruiting has been bad so far under Tubs??

Western Michigan is ranked higher at 45. Why does anybody want to play football in Kalamazoo?

(01-15-2014 04:25 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  Hmm, why is everyone acting like recruiting has been bad so far under Tubs??

I think the overall quality of other offers that many of our commits held was down this year. Doesn't mean they are any worse than previous classes, just feels like there are more 'reaches' in this class. While Butch didn't have any monster recruiting classes, most of the commits we got the last few years generally held other BCS offers.

(01-15-2014 04:32 PM)edetzel Wrote:  Western Michigan is ranked higher at 45. Why does anybody want to play football in Kalamazoo?

Their Head Coach (PJ Fleck) has a dynamic personality. He is pretty young but will likely be one of these guys we will read about in a few years making his move up to a bigger, better program*. They finished 1-11 in his first year this year but obviously recruiting this well wil result in a turn around.

* FWIW he was the guy who had his team honor Ben Flick as well.

(01-15-2014 04:32 PM)edetzel Wrote:  Western Michigan is ranked higher at 45. Why does anybody want to play football in Kalamazoo?

And 247 has them at #61, go figure. They have 28 players "committed",
which helps their ranking. On paper their class does look good.

(01-15-2014 04:37 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(01-15-2014 04:32 PM)edetzel Wrote:  Western Michigan is ranked higher at 45. Why does anybody want to play football in Kalamazoo?

Their Head Coach (PJ Fleck) has a dynamic personality. He is pretty young but will likely be one of these guys we will read about in a few years making his move up to a bigger, better program*. They finished 1-11 in his first year this year but obviously recruiting this well wil result in a turn around.

* FWIW he was the guy who had his team honor Ben Flick as well.

He's probably also selling to the kids that they'll have a strong chance to play as a true freshman. That's big for some players, who want to play right away rather than redshirt/sit for 3 years. Also weren't there rumors of Lonnie Johnson having grade issues? Isn't that why Ohio State backed off?

(01-15-2014 04:34 PM)Racinejake Wrote:  

(01-15-2014 04:25 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  Hmm, why is everyone acting like recruiting has been bad so far under Tubs??

I think the overall quality of other offers that many of our commits held was down this year. Doesn't mean they are any worse than previous classes, just feels like there are more 'reaches' in this class. While Butch didn't have any monster recruiting classes, most of the commits we got the last few years generally held other BCS offers.

I think many value the quality of the recruit not on stars but on who else is recruiting said athlete. In prior years, particular in the 2nd/3rd years of the BK era and all of the Jones era UC was recruiting kids that had offers from other Big East schools, some B10 schools, ACC, SEC and the B12. Today we are getting a lot of kids whose other offers only come from the Sun-Belt, MAC or C-USA.

(01-15-2014 04:40 PM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote:  

(01-15-2014 04:37 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(01-15-2014 04:32 PM)edetzel Wrote:  Western Michigan is ranked higher at 45. Why does anybody want to play football in Kalamazoo?

Their Head Coach (PJ Fleck) has a dynamic personality. He is pretty young but will likely be one of these guys we will read about in a few years making his move up to a bigger, better program*. They finished 1-11 in his first year this year but obviously recruiting this well wil result in a turn around.

* FWIW he was the guy who had his team honor Ben Flick as well.

He's probably also selling to the kids that they'll have a strong chance to play as a true freshman. That's big for some players, who want to play right away rather than redshirt/sit for 3 years. Also weren't there rumors of Lonnie Johnson having grade issues? Isn't that why Ohio State backed off?

Yes that was the rumor on Johnson. It will be interesting to see how many kids W. Michigan will keep in this current group (players flipping at the last minute/players not being academically eligible, etc.).

Dont most recruiting services just determine rankings based on the kids offer sheet?

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(01-15-2014 04:48 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  Dont most recruiting services just determine rankings based on the kids offer sheet?

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Evaluation varies depending on the service but the more well known sites determine the rankings based on personal observation, film evaluation and input from scouts. That is why sometimes you see a guy who is a three star recruit with no offers from a P5 school and by the same breath see a guy with two star offers with multipe P5 offers.

That being said, I do believe a player's offer sheet influence the opinions of the scouts. It is no coincdence that a kid goes from being a three star recruit to five or four star recruit overnight because they got an offer from Notre Dame or Alabama.

(01-15-2014 04:48 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  Dont most recruiting services just determine rankings based on the kids offer sheet?

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Not necessarily. I wouldn't say it's a science but most of the good sccouting services watch lots of tape, see these kids at camps, etc. Most of the variability really comes at the 2* and 3* level. For instance, on 247 Odell Spencer is rated 3 stars (84 rating) and has offers from only MAC schools. JJ Pinckney is rated the same (3 stars, 84 rating) and he has offers from Michigan State, Kentucky, Louisville, BC and Indiana). But I would say that when kids get higher profile offers there is a tendency for their rating to jump.

Also, I know at least Rivals doesn't have Tappan in our class yet.

(01-15-2014 05:22 PM)dbernie41 Wrote:  Also, I know at least Rivals doesn't have Tappan in our class yet.

Tappan doesn't have a profile on Rivals

(01-15-2014 04:37 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(01-15-2014 04:32 PM)edetzel Wrote:  Western Michigan is ranked higher at 45. Why does anybody want to play football in Kalamazoo?

And 247 has them at #61, go figure. They have 28 players "committed",
which helps their ranking. On paper their class does look good.

MAC also allows partial qualifiers. No way Johnson would have committed there if that weren't the case.