(12-29-2013 11:42 AM)Smaug Wrote: Keep saying it. Maybe one day by virtue of your saying it, it will magically be true.
So, are Republicans the more conservative party currently, or not?
I realize you're not good at them, but it's a simple yes or no question.
Is this a new question? They are the more conservative party. They've been infiltrated by liberals just like the libertarians. But that has nothing to do with racism.
Thank you. I was beginning to wonder if you could manage it.
Now, try to stay with me here.
If conservative Democrats were the racists 150 years ago, why do you think there aren't racists in the conservative Republican party?
Because Republicans were never liberals and conservatism is not a moniker for racism.
Honest Abe wasn't liberal?
And conservatism not a moniker for racism? Don't tell that to Alexander Stephens.
You're struggling here. You cannot present a factual debate when you continue to push a lie. Conservatives are not racists. Liberalism is the ideology that divides people into class and race.
(12-29-2013 11:45 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote: Is this a new question? They are the more conservative party. They've been infiltrated by liberals just like the libertarians. But that has nothing to do with racism.
Thank you. I was beginning to wonder if you could manage it.
Now, try to stay with me here.
If conservative Democrats were the racists 150 years ago, why do you think there aren't racists in the conservative Republican party?
Because Republicans were never liberals and conservatism is not a moniker for racism.
Honest Abe wasn't liberal?
And conservatism not a moniker for racism? Don't tell that to Alexander Stephens.
You're struggling here. You cannot present a factual debate when you continue to push a lie. Conservatives are not racists. Liberalism is the ideology that divides people into class and race.
(12-29-2013 11:50 AM)Smaug Wrote: Thank you. I was beginning to wonder if you could manage it.
Now, try to stay with me here.
If conservative Democrats were the racists 150 years ago, why do you think there aren't racists in the conservative Republican party?
Because Republicans were never liberals and conservatism is not a moniker for racism.
Honest Abe wasn't liberal?
And conservatism not a moniker for racism? Don't tell that to Alexander Stephens.
You're struggling here. You cannot present a factual debate when you continue to push a lie. Conservatives are not racists. Liberalism is the ideology that divides people into class and race.
So, Abe wasn't a liberal?
Yes or no.
Lincoln was a conservative. He was the apostle of opportunity.
(This post was last modified: 12-29-2013 12:06 PM by oklalittledixie.)
After Reagan was made the official GOP nominee in 1980, his first appearance was at the Neshoba County Fair near Philadelphia, Mississippi. Some of you may have heard of Philadelphia, MS since it was the place where three civil rights advocates were murdered in 1964 by the KKK. The story was told in the movie Mississippi Burning. No presidential candidate had ever appeared at the Neshoba County Fair before, but Reagan was urged to go there as a way to appeal to Southern white voters. So what was the focus of Reagan's 1980 speech there? Maybe civil rights and reconciliation? Of course not. He gave a speech on states' rights - at the place where civil rights workers were murdered by the Klan and where it took a massive federal investigation to find their bodies and find their killers. Nixon and Reagan built the modern GOP using racist tactics. Even some GOP leaders admit that now because there's no credible way to deny it, but there are those with no credibility who will deny it. Just watch and see.
(12-29-2013 12:06 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote: After Reagan was made the official GOP nominee in 1980, his first appearance was at the Neshoba County Fair near Philadelphia, Mississippi. Some of you may have heard of Philadelphia, MS since it was the place where three civil rights advocates were murdered in 1964 by the KKK. The story was told in the movie Mississippi Burning. No presidential candidate had ever appeared at the Neshoba County Fair before, but Reagan was urged to go there as a way to appeal to Southern white voters. So what was the focus of Reagan's 1980 speech there? Maybe civil rights and reconciliation? Of course not. He gave a speech on states' rights - at the place where civil rights workers were murdered by the Klan and where it took a massive federal investigation to find their bodies and find their killers. Nixon and Reagan built the modern GOP using racist tactics. Even some GOP leaders admit that now because there's no credible way to deny it, but there are those with no credibility who will deny it. Just watch and see.
You are a liar. This is a serious conversation. Stop tainting it with your dishonesty.
(12-29-2013 12:10 PM)Smaug Wrote: So, Reagan didn't go to Neshoba County?
You just can't seem to stay focused. You are scattered like a liberal. Your counter arguments fail then you resort to snark.
I answered your question about Abe Lincoln. I've answered your question about the Rebel flag. Now you want to piggyback on another straw man presented by another one of your liberal cohorts.
Let's **** or get off the pot. Can you severe the tie between the present day Democrats and their racist past or not?
You called someone a liar. I want to know what he lied about.
You just can't seem to keep up.
I have never said Democrats weren't racist. I think (and this is the second time I've said this in this tread), that their policies are toxic to minorities. You keep reading things I didn't write, and not reading things I do.
Now, will you acknowledge Republicans' associations with racists, or not?
Don't bother. I know that might spill some of the water you're carrying.
(12-29-2013 12:18 PM)Smaug Wrote: You called someone a liar. I want to know what he lied about.
You just can't seem to keep up.
I have never said Democrats weren't racist. I think (and this is the second time I've said this in this tread), that their policies are toxic to minorities. You keep reading things I didn't write, and not reading things I do.
Now, will you acknowledge Republicans' associations with racists, or not?
Don't bother. I know that might spill some of the water you're carrying.
Republicans are not a racist party. That ridiculous attempt to suggest speaking at a county fair is racist is pathetic.
(12-29-2013 12:06 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote: After Reagan was made the official GOP nominee in 1980, his first appearance was at the Neshoba County Fair near Philadelphia, Mississippi. Some of you may have heard of Philadelphia, MS since it was the place where three civil rights advocates were murdered in 1964 by the KKK. The story was told in the movie Mississippi Burning. No presidential candidate had ever appeared at the Neshoba County Fair before, but Reagan was urged to go there as a way to appeal to Southern white voters. So what was the focus of Reagan's 1980 speech there? Maybe civil rights and reconciliation? Of course not. He gave a speech on states' rights - at the place where civil rights workers were murdered by the Klan and where it took a massive federal investigation to find their bodies and find their killers. Nixon and Reagan built the modern GOP using racist tactics. Even some GOP leaders admit that now because there's no credible way to deny it, but there are those with no credibility who will deny it. Just watch and see.
Modern democrat political tactics aim to hide their racism by accusing their opponents of being racists. We see this in the media, the DoE, the DoJ, and many other liberal places. Only a blind person would not see how how the left uses accusations of racism as a tool, just as only a blind person would not see the racism of the left.
(12-23-2013 04:06 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: The KKK was originally formed by Democrats to harass members of the newly-formed Republican party, which was was created for the purpose of protecting the rights of newly-freed slaves. They lynched dozens of white Republicans in addition to blacks.
Prominent Democrats were involved with the KKK including Sen Robert Byrd, Who was a KKK recruiter in the 1960's.
(12-29-2013 03:21 PM)Smaug Wrote: What specifically did he lie about. Name it.
Quote:Nixon and Reagan built the modern GOP using racist tactics.
This is a common tactic used by progressives. It has worked nicely for a long time, simply because no one has really called them on it.
Here's another one the progressives push that is also blatantly false
"If Lincoln were alive today, he'd be a Democrat."
No he wouldn't. Lincoln believed in opportunity for all, not class warfare.
I believe in opportunity for all as well. It doesn't seem however that the modern GOP wants that. At least it doesn't seem that way with how they vote on issues for women, gays, and immigrants.
(12-29-2013 03:21 PM)Smaug Wrote: What specifically did he lie about. Name it.
Quote:Nixon and Reagan built the modern GOP using racist tactics.
This is a common tactic used by progressives. It has worked nicely for a long time, simply because no one has really called them on it.
Here's another one the progressives push that is also blatantly false
"If Lincoln were alive today, he'd be a Democrat."
No he wouldn't. Lincoln believed in opportunity for all, not class warfare.
I believe in opportunity for all as well. It doesn't seem however that the modern GOP wants that. At least it doesn't seem that way with how they vote on issues for women, gays, and immigrants.
Let's see, the women's rights issue is the right to murder unborn children. It's pretty sad you view that as a human rights issue. The gay issue is about the GOP platform on traditional marriage and the traditional family, and your immigrant rights issue is about granting amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants in hopes they become newly registered democrats.
(This post was last modified: 12-29-2013 03:36 PM by oklalittledixie.)
