(12-28-2013 11:09 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (12-28-2013 11:06 PM)Smaug Wrote: (12-28-2013 11:04 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (12-28-2013 10:58 PM)Smaug Wrote: (12-28-2013 10:56 PM)smn1256 Wrote: Smaug has taken a hard turn to the left these days. I'm not even sure it's him at the keyboard.
No I haven't. I'm just going to call bull**** when I see it.
That Democrats used to be the conservative party, and now the Republicans are is patently obvious to everyone in the known universe except oklydoodly here.
No they didn't. There was no such thing as the conservative party in the 1800s. It was founded in 2008. Your argument is based in lies and misconceptions. You follow the liberal narrative used to keep blacks in their camp.
So there wasn't a conservative party prior to 2008?
Barry Goldwater and Newt Gingrich are going to be disappointed to hear that.
Good Lord, you're thick as a brick.
Conservatism is an ideology, not a political party. There is a conservative party USA that was founded in 2008, but not a party that democrats used to belong to in the 1800s. There was no conservative party dominated by democrats before the Republicans took over. How stupid do people have to be to fall for the liberal lie?
You are one big fail.
Are you being willfully foolish? He never said that the conservatives were a political party of the time. There has always been one major party that considered themselves to be conservative and the other liberal.
In the 1800s Democrats were considered conservative. Hell, their local and national conventions were informally called "the conservative convention."
http://www.nytimes.com/1860/06/05/news/m...ained.html
The first Republican Convention of the time was called to "adopt a policy liberal and generous towards others."
https://archive.org/stream/proceedingsof...ch/liberal (it should take you straight to page 32 with the word liberal highlighted, they say other interesting things about the beliefs of Thomas Jefferson).
The platform from their third convention stated:
Resolved "That foreign immigration, which in the past has added so much wealth, development of resources and increase of power to this nation, the asylum of the oppressed of all nations should be fostered and encouraged by a liberal and just policy." (If a Republican said this today, does it make them conservative to you?)
https://archive.org/stream/proceedingsof...ch/liberal
The Conservative National Union (Union Conservatives) only recommended Democrats.
http://www.nytimes.com/1864/08/29/news/c...idate.html
Republicans were the liberal party of the day.