Yup... India

I have to say, the treatment of the Indian official is nothing short of outrageous.

Well she was treated like an American...

It would bad for India to go tit for tat with because they'd lose. But then again, with Obama and Kerry running the show, they might win.

This looks like we F-ed up and India is justified with their actions.

How does India treat suspected criminals?

(12-17-2013 05:29 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Yup... India

I have to say, the treatment of the Indian official is nothing short of outrageous.

You can't be serious. She treated her employee like a slave on US soil and lied on her visa application. She got what she deserved, and as she does NOT have diplomatic immunity, will probably end up in prison. India can go stuff themselves.

(12-17-2013 06:53 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  This looks like we F-ed up and India is justified with their actions.

How is this justified? We cannot allow slavery to take place on our soil. 1000% behind the arrest. 1000% behind prosecuting her too. If India wants to treat its poor like garbage, they can do so in India, but not here.

(12-17-2013 07:01 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 05:29 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Yup... India

I have to say, the treatment of the Indian official is nothing short of outrageous.

You can't be serious. She treated her employee like a slave on US soil and lied on her visa application. She got what she deserved, and as she does NOT have diplomatic immunity, will probably end up in prison. India can go stuff themselves.

She doesn't even earn what the US law requires her to pay the woman.

BTW, she most likely DOES have immunity.

(12-17-2013 07:17 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 07:01 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 05:29 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Yup... India

I have to say, the treatment of the Indian official is nothing short of outrageous.

You can't be serious. She treated her employee like a slave on US soil and lied on her visa application. She got what she deserved, and as she does NOT have diplomatic immunity, will probably end up in prison. India can go stuff themselves.

She doesn't even earn what the US law requires her to pay the woman.

BTW, she most likely DOES have immunity.

I hope Obama stands firm in this case. She abused her domestic help, whom she treated like an animal. Instead of India being embarrassed, they're like "yea we demand the right to abuse our employees on US soil". No. You don't.

Having a slave to clean for her is NOT part of consular duties. No immunity.

(12-17-2013 07:20 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 07:17 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 07:01 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 05:29 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Yup... India

I have to say, the treatment of the Indian official is nothing short of outrageous.

You can't be serious. She treated her employee like a slave on US soil and lied on her visa application. She got what she deserved, and as she does NOT have diplomatic immunity, will probably end up in prison. India can go stuff themselves.

She doesn't even earn what the US law requires her to pay the woman.

BTW, she most likely DOES have immunity.

I hope Obama stands firm in this case. She abused her domestic help, whom she treated like an animal. Instead of India being embarrassed, they're like "yea we demand the right to abuse our employees on US soil". No. You don't.

Having a slave to clean for her is NOT part of consular duties. No immunity.

The two issues are separate. As a person working in an official diplomatic capacity they feel she deserves to be treated with greater respect, per diplomatic protical.


Like you would know crap about immunity...

For the record,

The American law requires her to pay her nanny $4500 per month. What the woman received was decent for Indian standards. It is also more than the hourly rate for most waiters and waitresses.

Also, while the requirement for the nanny is $4500 she herself only earns a little over $4000.

So, enough with this idiotic "slave" argument.

(12-17-2013 07:22 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 07:20 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 07:17 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 07:01 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 05:29 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Yup... India

I have to say, the treatment of the Indian official is nothing short of outrageous.

You can't be serious. She treated her employee like a slave on US soil and lied on her visa application. She got what she deserved, and as she does NOT have diplomatic immunity, will probably end up in prison. India can go stuff themselves.

She doesn't even earn what the US law requires her to pay the woman.

BTW, she most likely DOES have immunity.

I hope Obama stands firm in this case. She abused her domestic help, whom she treated like an animal. Instead of India being embarrassed, they're like "yea we demand the right to abuse our employees on US soil". No. You don't.

Having a slave to clean for her is NOT part of consular duties. No immunity.

The two issues are separate. As a person working in an official diplomatic capacity they feel she deserves to be treated with greater respect, per diplomatic protical.


Like you would know crap about immunity...

A slaver not be should be treated with respect. No. She's a common criminal and was treated like she should have been. She was paying her employee 300 bucks a MONTH for 100+ hour workweeks.

Where's the outrage in India about the treatment of the domestic help? Oh, well, that speaks volumes about why India's supposed transformation into a high end nation has stagnated. India doesn't care about 800 million of its own citizens. Only the top 5 percent or so really matter there.

If India doesn't like it, they can hang out with their buddies in China (no they can't), Russia (nope), or ....

Australia and Europe have nearly come to blows with India (and India alone) deciding that its government employees should be able to misbehave abroad without consequences.

The woman is a diplomat from a sovereign nation. That's the central issue and the only important one.

(12-17-2013 07:25 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  For the record,

The American law requires her to pay her nanny $4500 per month. What the woman received was decent for Indian standards. It is also more than the hourly rate for most waiters and waitresses.

Also, while the requirement for the nanny is $4500 she herself only earns a little over $4000.

So, enough with this idiotic "slave" argument.

Oh, she doesn't have to pay domestic help 4500 per month. She has to pay that much if she wants to import her own help from India.

The employee was paid 300 bucks a MONTH for 100+ hour workweeks. That's pretty close to slavery to me.

She could have simply hired an American, or cleaned her own apartment.

(12-17-2013 07:30 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The woman is a diplomat from a sovereign nation. That's the central issue and the only important one.

Yes, and she has immunity from arrest in her consulate building for performing activities consistent with her job.

You don't have a right to a cleaning lady. I fail to see the immunity here.

(12-17-2013 07:34 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 07:30 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The woman is a diplomat from a sovereign nation. That's the central issue and the only important one.

Yes, and she has immunity from arrest in her consulate building for performing activities consistent with her job.

You don't have a right to a cleaning lady. I fail to see the immunity here.

The woman has no immunity in this particular instance. I agree with Tom on everything he's said so far.

There was also a scam that was revealed a week or two ago where diplomats (possibly Russian) in New York were lying on forms in order to get free healthcare paid by US taxpayers.

(12-17-2013 07:48 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 07:34 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 07:30 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The woman is a diplomat from a sovereign nation. That's the central issue and the only important one.

Yes, and she has immunity from arrest in her consulate building for performing activities consistent with her job.

You don't have a right to a cleaning lady. I fail to see the immunity here.

The woman has no immunity in this particular instance. I agree with Tom on everything he's said so far.

There was also a scam that was revealed a week or two ago where diplomats (possibly Russian) in New York were lying on forms in order to get free healthcare paid by US taxpayers.

They were Russian.
And those diplomats should be jailed as well. WTF are we doing paying health care for foreign diplomats anyway?

It looks like the US State Department is fed up with protecting diplomats that commit fraud or abuse people while here. Good for them.

Pretty easy on the eyes...





(enter own 'strip search' joke here)

(12-17-2013 08:06 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Pretty easy on the eyes...





(enter own 'strip search' joke here)

Slavery is ugly, no matter who is doing it.

I'm not even following the thread debate closely at all. Just thought she was pretty hot.

Carry on...