(11-29-2013 04:53 PM)flying dutchman Wrote:  

(11-29-2013 04:47 PM)rocketfan70 Wrote:  

(11-29-2013 04:42 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  Tough wins on the road really build young teams confidence. Sounds like Inma really stepped up her game when they needed it.

Inma did raise her game at the end. But for me the two outstanding Rockets were Crunch Jones and Reed-Lewis. I thought that they were the stars of the game.

Overall, lucky to win the game. Too many offensive boards for Cal, too many turnovers, and too many layups/easy baskets for the very patient Cal offense. This is a Cal team with one win so they are not a strong team but they looked like they out hustled us for 40 minutes. I give they high marks for effort.

I have only nine turnovers for the game ??????

That's pretty good given that you're old, out of shape and not much of a basketball player.

(11-29-2013 04:56 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(11-29-2013 04:53 PM)flying dutchman Wrote:  

(11-29-2013 04:47 PM)rocketfan70 Wrote:  

(11-29-2013 04:42 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  Tough wins on the road really build young teams confidence. Sounds like Inma really stepped up her game when they needed it.

Inma did raise her game at the end. But for me the two outstanding Rockets were Crunch Jones and Reed-Lewis. I thought that they were the stars of the game.

Overall, lucky to win the game. Too many offensive boards for Cal, too many turnovers, and too many layups/easy baskets for the very patient Cal offense. This is a Cal team with one win so they are not a strong team but they looked like they out hustled us for 40 minutes. I give they high marks for effort.

I have only nine turnovers for the game ??????

That's pretty good given that you're old, out of shape and not much of a basketball player.

That's funny you got me. I show team only had

Wait so did we win today? Just got an update from my ESPN app showing that we lost.

(11-29-2013 04:55 PM)flying dutchman Wrote:  I also show us out rebounding cal ?????

I haven't seen the numbers yet but my impression throughout the game was that Cal was crashing the offensive boards and got numerous second and some third tries. They just seemed to be way more aggressive and effective on the boards.

(11-29-2013 05:54 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  Wait so did we win today? Just got an update from my ESPN app showing that we lost.

UT won 59-58.

http://www.utrockets.com/ViewArticle.dbm...=209326322

Stat line shows Toledo won both the overall and offensive board battle. A couple other notes: Dortch was scoreless. Can't imagine that. Janice M was 1-9. Those two things will probably never happen again. Inma had another big game- leading scorer, 7-13, hits game winner and grabbed seven boards. Bradford has largely been a non-entity on a shaky CMU team and Inma should be a (very) early frontrunner for POY. Finally, Elena played her first game, shot well and got 16 minutes. Her presence could be huge. Olivia missed another game and I'm guessing is still injured.

Also noted, and this negates my earlier "Finally", that UT only took eight free throws while Fullerton put up four. New rules are killing the game.

Crunch with the double double!!! Way to go Brianna Jones!!!

The Rockets took more control of the backboards in the last part of the second half which was crucial to them winning.
This afternoon they have to continue to hit the boards and really improve their passing and shot selection.

(11-29-2013 04:32 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(11-29-2013 04:28 PM)NewMex RocketFan Wrote:  

(11-29-2013 04:26 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(11-29-2013 04:18 PM)NewMex RocketFan Wrote:  Anna sure likes to shoot

No matter where she is on the court, in front or behind the backboard, she'll let it rip

She thinks "shot" first and " shot" second. "Pass comes in about ninth place after "shot" and several more " shots".

You've said this a few times, but the statistics don't bear it out. True, Ana's shooting percentage is not great, but it's better than several other players on the team. She is leading the team in three-point shooting (attempts, makes, and percentage), her shots attempted are proportional to her minutes played, and she is fourth on the team in assists. Monakana has attempted one more shot in significantly fewer minutes.

(11-30-2013 09:36 PM)Dwight Wrote:  

(11-29-2013 04:32 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(11-29-2013 04:28 PM)NewMex RocketFan Wrote:  

(11-29-2013 04:26 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(11-29-2013 04:18 PM)NewMex RocketFan Wrote:  Anna sure likes to shoot

No matter where she is on the court, in front or behind the backboard, she'll let it rip

She thinks "shot" first and " shot" second. "Pass comes in about ninth place after "shot" and several more " shots".

You've said this a few times, but the statistics don't bear it out. True, Ana's shooting percentage is not great, but it's better than several other players on the team. She is leading the team in three-point shooting (attempts, makes, and percentage), her shots attempted are proportional to her minutes played, and she is fourth on the team in assists. Monakana has attempted one more shot in significantly fewer minutes.

Yeah, Janice likes to hoist them as well. Stats can't bear out what someone is thinking. She likes to shoot. If you saw the exhibition game you saw a back hole there. She's been better during the regular season but still takes more shots per minute than our leading scorer at a far lower percentage. Nothing wrong with liking to shoot. That's what big scorers do and she'll be a big scorer because of that mentality. She's one of my favorite players because of her competitiveness but IMO she still takes a lot of ill advised shots and Tom and I aren' t the only ones on here who have noticed that.

(11-30-2013 11:57 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 09:36 PM)Dwight Wrote:  

(11-29-2013 04:32 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(11-29-2013 04:28 PM)NewMex RocketFan Wrote:  

(11-29-2013 04:26 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

No matter where she is on the court, in front or behind the backboard, she'll let it rip

She thinks "shot" first and " shot" second. "Pass comes in about ninth place after "shot" and several more " shots".

You've said this a few times, but the statistics don't bear it out. True, Ana's shooting percentage is not great, but it's better than several other players on the team. She is leading the team in three-point shooting (attempts, makes, and percentage), her shots attempted are proportional to her minutes played, and she is fourth on the team in assists. Monakana has attempted one more shot in significantly fewer minutes.

Yeah, Janice likes to hoist them as well. Stats can't bear out what someone is thinking. She likes to shoot. If you saw the exhibition game you saw a back hole there. She's been better during the regular season but still takes more shots per minute than our leading scorer at a far lower percentage. Nothing wrong with liking to shoot. That's what big scorers do and she'll be a big scorer because of that mentality. She's one of my favorite players because of her competitiveness but IMO she still takes a lot of ill advised shots and Tom and I aren' t the only ones on here who have noticed that.

Capotosto ranks sixth on the team in shots per minute at .336.

1. Monakana - .432
2. de Alfredo - .400
3. Dortch - .363
4. Jones - .350
5. Reecher - .341
6. Capotosto - .336
7. Zanoguera - .325
8. Reed-Lewis - .314
9. Recker - .184
10. Braun - .130

Capotosto also ranks sixth on the team in shooting percentage.

1. Jones - .571
2. Zanoguera - .530
3. Reecher - .452
4. Braun - .444
5. Reed-Lewis - .440
6. Capotosto - .373
7. de Alfredo - .357
8. Dortch - .323
9. Monakana - .314
10. Recker - .286

Capotosto ranks fifth on the team in assists per minute.

1. Dortch - .151
2. Reed-Lewis - .138
3. Braun - .101
4. Zanoguera - .084
5. Capotosto - .079
6. Recker - .053
7. Reecher - .022
8. Monakana - .017
9. de Alfredo - .000 (35 minutes played)
10. Jones - .000 (80 minutes played)

Giving credit for the extra point for each three-pointer, Capotosto ranks fourth on the team in points scored on field goals per shot.

1. Jones - 1.143
2. Zanoguera - 1.061
3. de Alfredo - .929
4. Capotosto - .922
5. Reed-Lewis - .920
6. Reecher - .903
7. Braun - .889
8. Dortch - .738
9. Monakana - .725
10. Recker - .714

Finally, adding in free throws, Capotosto ranks fifth on the team in points scored per shot attempted.

1. Jones - 1.429
2. Zanoguera - 1.424
3. Braun - 1.333
4. Reed-Lewis - 1.120
5. Capotosto - 1.078
6. Reecher - 1.065
7. Recker - 1.048
8. Monakana - 1.039
9. de Alfredo - .929
10. Dortch - .923

You and Tom and others may think that you have observed Capotosto to have poor shot selection and to not pass when she should. But we keep track of these things by counting shots, shots made, assists, etc. Sometimes our perceptions are faulty for one reason or another. I'd say that this is one of those cases. I know that you're an open-minded guy, so take a look at the above statistics, and you might re-evaluate Ana's game. I'd say that we want her shooting just as much as she is. And comparing her to Zanoguera certainly was unfair, as just about anyone would look bad in comparison.

(By the way, if Ana could make a damn free throw, her ranking on that last statistic would have been really high since she does draw a lot of fouls.)

(12-01-2013 08:47 AM)Dwight Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 11:57 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 09:36 PM)Dwight Wrote:  

(11-29-2013 04:32 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(11-29-2013 04:28 PM)NewMex RocketFan Wrote:  No matter where she is on the court, in front or behind the backboard, she'll let it rip

She thinks "shot" first and " shot" second. "Pass comes in about ninth place after "shot" and several more " shots".

You've said this a few times, but the statistics don't bear it out. True, Ana's shooting percentage is not great, but it's better than several other players on the team. She is leading the team in three-point shooting (attempts, makes, and percentage), her shots attempted are proportional to her minutes played, and she is fourth on the team in assists. Monakana has attempted one more shot in significantly fewer minutes.

Yeah, Janice likes to hoist them as well. Stats can't bear out what someone is thinking. She likes to shoot. If you saw the exhibition game you saw a back hole there. She's been better during the regular season but still takes more shots per minute than our leading scorer at a far lower percentage. Nothing wrong with liking to shoot. That's what big scorers do and she'll be a big scorer because of that mentality. She's one of my favorite players because of her competitiveness but IMO she still takes a lot of ill advised shots and Tom and I aren' t the only ones on here who have noticed that.

Capotosto ranks sixth on the team in shots per minute at .336.

1. Monakana - .432
2. de Alfredo - .400
3. Dortch - .363
4. Jones - .350
5. Reecher - .341
6. Capotosto - .336
7. Zanoguera - .325
8. Reed-Lewis - .314
9. Recker - .184
10. Braun - .130

Capotosto also ranks sixth on the team in shooting percentage.

1. Jones - .571
2. Zanoguera - .530
3. Reecher - .452
4. Braun - .444
5. Reed-Lewis - .440
6. Capotosto - .373
7. de Alfredo - .357
8. Dortch - .323
9. Monakana - .314
10. Recker - .286

Capotosto ranks fifth on the team in assists per minute.

1. Dortch - .151
2. Reed-Lewis - .138
3. Braun - .101
4. Zanoguera - .084
5. Capotosto - .079
6. Recker - .053
7. Reecher - .022
8. Monakana - .017
9. de Alfredo - .000 (35 minutes played)
10. Jones - .000 (80 minutes played)

Giving credit for the extra point for each three-pointer, Capotosto ranks fourth on the team in points scored on field goals per shot.

1. Jones - 1.143
2. Zanoguera - 1.061
3. de Alfredo - .929
4. Capotosto - .922
5. Reed-Lewis - .920
6. Reecher - .903
7. Braun - .889
8. Dortch - .738
9. Monakana - .725
10. Recker - .714

Finally, adding in free throws, Capotosto ranks fifth on the team in points scored per shot attempted.

1. Jones - 1.429
2. Zanoguera - 1.424
3. Braun - 1.333
4. Reed-Lewis - 1.120
5. Capotosto - 1.078
6. Reecher - 1.065
7. Recker - 1.048
8. Monakana - 1.039
9. de Alfredo - .929
10. Dortch - .923

You and Tom and others may think that you have observed Capotosto to have poor shot selection and to not pass when she should. But we keep track of these things by counting shots, shots made, assists, etc. Sometimes our perceptions are faulty for one reason or another. I'd say that this is one of those cases. I know that you're an open-minded guy, so take a look at the above statistics, and you might re-evaluate Ana's game. I'd say that we want her shooting just as much as she is. And comparing her to Zanoguera certainly was unfair, as just about anyone would look bad in comparison.

(By the way, if Ana could make a damn free throw, her ranking on that last statistic would have been really high since she does draw a lot of fouls.)

This has been a good discussion...I would like to add few things for consideration...Within the offenses that the Ladies run, it is important that all five players on the court shoot when open (last year we had some players that other teams sagged off of so much that it made it hard for her team mates to get open)...basically there two shots that are bad shots ...shooting when not open and not shooting when open...I have heard Coach stop practice many times to tell one of the players not to pass up an open shot....if they do pass up open shots they can join her on the bench... it breaks down an offense when a team works the ball around to get an open look and then have the player pass up the an open shot..as I have heard the Coach tell Ana and others that they were recruited to shoot the ball... not recruited to break an assist record...This team is going to continue to mature and get better with each game...in order to do that it is important that every player remain a threat to score...we haven't had a team with so much offensive potential in a long time...

(12-01-2013 10:38 AM)hwut1 Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 08:47 AM)Dwight Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 11:57 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 09:36 PM)Dwight Wrote:  

(11-29-2013 04:32 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  She thinks "shot" first and " shot" second. "Pass comes in about ninth place after "shot" and several more " shots".

You've said this a few times, but the statistics don't bear it out. True, Ana's shooting percentage is not great, but it's better than several other players on the team. She is leading the team in three-point shooting (attempts, makes, and percentage), her shots attempted are proportional to her minutes played, and she is fourth on the team in assists. Monakana has attempted one more shot in significantly fewer minutes.

Yeah, Janice likes to hoist them as well. Stats can't bear out what someone is thinking. She likes to shoot. If you saw the exhibition game you saw a back hole there. She's been better during the regular season but still takes more shots per minute than our leading scorer at a far lower percentage. Nothing wrong with liking to shoot. That's what big scorers do and she'll be a big scorer because of that mentality. She's one of my favorite players because of her competitiveness but IMO she still takes a lot of ill advised shots and Tom and I aren' t the only ones on here who have noticed that.

Capotosto ranks sixth on the team in shots per minute at .336.

1. Monakana - .432
2. de Alfredo - .400
3. Dortch - .363
4. Jones - .350
5. Reecher - .341
6. Capotosto - .336
7. Zanoguera - .325
8. Reed-Lewis - .314
9. Recker - .184
10. Braun - .130

Capotosto also ranks sixth on the team in shooting percentage.

1. Jones - .571
2. Zanoguera - .530
3. Reecher - .452
4. Braun - .444
5. Reed-Lewis - .440
6. Capotosto - .373
7. de Alfredo - .357
8. Dortch - .323
9. Monakana - .314
10. Recker - .286

Capotosto ranks fifth on the team in assists per minute.

1. Dortch - .151
2. Reed-Lewis - .138
3. Braun - .101
4. Zanoguera - .084
5. Capotosto - .079
6. Recker - .053
7. Reecher - .022
8. Monakana - .017
9. de Alfredo - .000 (35 minutes played)
10. Jones - .000 (80 minutes played)

Giving credit for the extra point for each three-pointer, Capotosto ranks fourth on the team in points scored on field goals per shot.

1. Jones - 1.143
2. Zanoguera - 1.061
3. de Alfredo - .929
4. Capotosto - .922
5. Reed-Lewis - .920
6. Reecher - .903
7. Braun - .889
8. Dortch - .738
9. Monakana - .725
10. Recker - .714

Finally, adding in free throws, Capotosto ranks fifth on the team in points scored per shot attempted.

1. Jones - 1.429
2. Zanoguera - 1.424
3. Braun - 1.333
4. Reed-Lewis - 1.120
5. Capotosto - 1.078
6. Reecher - 1.065
7. Recker - 1.048
8. Monakana - 1.039
9. de Alfredo - .929
10. Dortch - .923

You and Tom and others may think that you have observed Capotosto to have poor shot selection and to not pass when she should. But we keep track of these things by counting shots, shots made, assists, etc. Sometimes our perceptions are faulty for one reason or another. I'd say that this is one of those cases. I know that you're an open-minded guy, so take a look at the above statistics, and you might re-evaluate Ana's game. I'd say that we want her shooting just as much as she is. And comparing her to Zanoguera certainly was unfair, as just about anyone would look bad in comparison.

(By the way, if Ana could make a damn free throw, her ranking on that last statistic would have been really high since she does draw a lot of fouls.)

This has been a good discussion...I would like to add few things for consideration...Within the offenses that the Ladies run, it is important that all five players on the court shoot when open (last year we had some players that other teams sagged off of so much that it made it hard for her team mates to get open)...basically there two shots that are bad shots ...shooting when not open and not shooting when open...I have heard Coach stop practice many times to tell one of the players not to pass up an open shot....if they do pass up open shots they can join her on the bench... it breaks down an offense when a team works the ball around to get an open look and then have the player pass up the an open shot..as I have heard the Coach tell Ana and others that they were recruited to shoot the ball... not recruited to break an assist record...This team is going to continue to mature and get better with each game...in order to do that it is important that every player remain a threat to score...we haven't had a team with so much offensive potential in a long time...

I agree that there is better balance roster wide on the potential to score. This team will most certainly score more points than last year's team. The downside is that many of these offensive players are not playing good defense. Opponents are scoring far too many easy baskets inside and with too many open 3 point looks. I would guess that the opponents points/game will also be up substantially this year. Regarding Capatosto, I would conclude that if her shot selection improves, then the stats you quote above will more dramatically demonstrate her value. Because there is no doubt that through the first six games she has launched quite a few low percentage shots.

Not as many as de Alfredo, Dortch, Monakana, and Recker.

(12-03-2013 03:05 PM)rocketfan70 Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 10:38 AM)hwut1 Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 08:47 AM)Dwight Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 11:57 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 09:36 PM)Dwight Wrote:  You've said this a few times, but the statistics don't bear it out. True, Ana's shooting percentage is not great, but it's better than several other players on the team. She is leading the team in three-point shooting (attempts, makes, and percentage), her shots attempted are proportional to her minutes played, and she is fourth on the team in assists. Monakana has attempted one more shot in significantly fewer minutes.

Yeah, Janice likes to hoist them as well. Stats can't bear out what someone is thinking. She likes to shoot. If you saw the exhibition game you saw a back hole there. She's been better during the regular season but still takes more shots per minute than our leading scorer at a far lower percentage. Nothing wrong with liking to shoot. That's what big scorers do and she'll be a big scorer because of that mentality. She's one of my favorite players because of her competitiveness but IMO she still takes a lot of ill advised shots and Tom and I aren' t the only ones on here who have noticed that.

Capotosto ranks sixth on the team in shots per minute at .336.

1. Monakana - .432
2. de Alfredo - .400
3. Dortch - .363
4. Jones - .350
5. Reecher - .341
6. Capotosto - .336
7. Zanoguera - .325
8. Reed-Lewis - .314
9. Recker - .184
10. Braun - .130

Capotosto also ranks sixth on the team in shooting percentage.

1. Jones - .571
2. Zanoguera - .530
3. Reecher - .452
4. Braun - .444
5. Reed-Lewis - .440
6. Capotosto - .373
7. de Alfredo - .357
8. Dortch - .323
9. Monakana - .314
10. Recker - .286

Capotosto ranks fifth on the team in assists per minute.

1. Dortch - .151
2. Reed-Lewis - .138
3. Braun - .101
4. Zanoguera - .084
5. Capotosto - .079
6. Recker - .053
7. Reecher - .022
8. Monakana - .017
9. de Alfredo - .000 (35 minutes played)
10. Jones - .000 (80 minutes played)

Giving credit for the extra point for each three-pointer, Capotosto ranks fourth on the team in points scored on field goals per shot.

1. Jones - 1.143
2. Zanoguera - 1.061
3. de Alfredo - .929
4. Capotosto - .922
5. Reed-Lewis - .920
6. Reecher - .903
7. Braun - .889
8. Dortch - .738
9. Monakana - .725
10. Recker - .714

Finally, adding in free throws, Capotosto ranks fifth on the team in points scored per shot attempted.

1. Jones - 1.429
2. Zanoguera - 1.424
3. Braun - 1.333
4. Reed-Lewis - 1.120
5. Capotosto - 1.078
6. Reecher - 1.065
7. Recker - 1.048
8. Monakana - 1.039
9. de Alfredo - .929
10. Dortch - .923

You and Tom and others may think that you have observed Capotosto to have poor shot selection and to not pass when she should. But we keep track of these things by counting shots, shots made, assists, etc. Sometimes our perceptions are faulty for one reason or another. I'd say that this is one of those cases. I know that you're an open-minded guy, so take a look at the above statistics, and you might re-evaluate Ana's game. I'd say that we want her shooting just as much as she is. And comparing her to Zanoguera certainly was unfair, as just about anyone would look bad in comparison.

(By the way, if Ana could make a damn free throw, her ranking on that last statistic would have been really high since she does draw a lot of fouls.)

This has been a good discussion...I would like to add few things for consideration...Within the offenses that the Ladies run, it is important that all five players on the court shoot when open (last year we had some players that other teams sagged off of so much that it made it hard for her team mates to get open)...basically there two shots that are bad shots ...shooting when not open and not shooting when open...I have heard Coach stop practice many times to tell one of the players not to pass up an open shot....if they do pass up open shots they can join her on the bench... it breaks down an offense when a team works the ball around to get an open look and then have the player pass up the an open shot..as I have heard the Coach tell Ana and others that they were recruited to shoot the ball... not recruited to break an assist record...This team is going to continue to mature and get better with each game...in order to do that it is important that every player remain a threat to score...we haven't had a team with so much offensive potential in a long time...

I agree that there is better balance roster wide on the potential to score. This team will most certainly score more points than last year's team. The downside is that many of these offensive players are not playing good defense. Opponents are scoring far too many easy baskets inside and with too many open 3 point looks. I would guess that the opponents points/game will also be up substantially this year. Regarding Capatosto, I would conclude that if her shot selection improves, then the stats you quote above will more dramatically demonstrate her value. Because there is no doubt that through the first six games she has launched quite a few low percentage shots.

You are right...two things have contributed to the increase in points given up...one is the limited number of players that have been available due to injuries ..that means the ladies needed to be more aware picking up fouls .... with the limited number of fouls we could give and number of healthy and not so healthy players the coaches had to give up something defensively.... some games the outside shot and other games the inside game..unfortunately the only players that have stayed healthy so far are Ana, Inma, and Sophia....the second thing contributing to giving up more points defensively is the number of possessions the other teams are getting because of the increased number of points we are scoring...plus the coach has increased the tempo of our offense....at practice running a full court drills with the objective of scoring with in eight seconds ...the purpose is to get a shot off before the defense can set up and to wear the other teams down..as the result our possessions are much shorter...! GO BLUE.....

I know I was a bit of a negative Ned towards this team last year after the MAC tourney letdown but after seeing this team once, I'm really excited about the future.
We finally have a freshmen class that will see 3-4 major contributors by season's end. The overall talent is solid and I really think our backcourt of Dortsch and Reed-Lewis is as talented as any in the conference. I don't expect a conference title or significant tournament run this season because of depth issues but I'm looking forward to Dec 22 when I can make it back up to Savage for a game. I'm crossing my fingers that within 3 years, we'll have the personnel and experience to play deep into the NCAA tournament.

(12-03-2013 04:12 PM)Dwight Wrote:  Not as many as de Alfredo, Dortch, Monakana, and Recker.

de Alfredo has only played two games! She is just getting started. Dortch certainly could use a course in improved shot selection. I disagree regarding Monakana. I think she sometimes looks a little awkward but has mostly had open looks when she shoots. Recker I really don't understand. She seems to have good technique, but has seemed to have more air balls and bad misses over the last three years than anyone else on the team. I don't know if she tenses up and short arms it or what. But I don't particularly think that the shots she launches are poor shot selection.

(11-29-2013 04:32 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(11-29-2013 04:28 PM)NewMex RocketFan Wrote:  

(11-29-2013 04:26 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(11-29-2013 04:18 PM)NewMex RocketFan Wrote:  Anna sure likes to shoot

No matter where she is on the court, in front or behind the backboard, she'll let it rip

She thinks "shot" first and " shot" second. "Pass comes in about ninth place after "shot" and several more " shots".

(12-03-2013 04:54 PM)hwut1 Wrote:  

(12-03-2013 03:05 PM)rocketfan70 Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 10:38 AM)hwut1 Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 08:47 AM)Dwight Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 11:57 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  Yeah, Janice likes to hoist them as well. Stats can't bear out what someone is thinking. She likes to shoot. If you saw the exhibition game you saw a back hole there. She's been better during the regular season but still takes more shots per minute than our leading scorer at a far lower percentage. Nothing wrong with liking to shoot. That's what big scorers do and she'll be a big scorer because of that mentality. She's one of my favorite players because of her competitiveness but IMO she still takes a lot of ill advised shots and Tom and I aren' t the only ones on here who have noticed that.

Capotosto ranks sixth on the team in shots per minute at .336.

1. Monakana - .432
2. de Alfredo - .400
3. Dortch - .363
4. Jones - .350
5. Reecher - .341
6. Capotosto - .336
7. Zanoguera - .325
8. Reed-Lewis - .314
9. Recker - .184
10. Braun - .130

Capotosto also ranks sixth on the team in shooting percentage.

1. Jones - .571
2. Zanoguera - .530
3. Reecher - .452
4. Braun - .444
5. Reed-Lewis - .440
6. Capotosto - .373
7. de Alfredo - .357
8. Dortch - .323
9. Monakana - .314
10. Recker - .286

Capotosto ranks fifth on the team in assists per minute.

1. Dortch - .151
2. Reed-Lewis - .138
3. Braun - .101
4. Zanoguera - .084
5. Capotosto - .079
6. Recker - .053
7. Reecher - .022
8. Monakana - .017
9. de Alfredo - .000 (35 minutes played)
10. Jones - .000 (80 minutes played)

Giving credit for the extra point for each three-pointer, Capotosto ranks fourth on the team in points scored on field goals per shot.

1. Jones - 1.143
2. Zanoguera - 1.061
3. de Alfredo - .929
4. Capotosto - .922
5. Reed-Lewis - .920
6. Reecher - .903
7. Braun - .889
8. Dortch - .738
9. Monakana - .725
10. Recker - .714

Finally, adding in free throws, Capotosto ranks fifth on the team in points scored per shot attempted.

1. Jones - 1.429
2. Zanoguera - 1.424
3. Braun - 1.333
4. Reed-Lewis - 1.120
5. Capotosto - 1.078
6. Reecher - 1.065
7. Recker - 1.048
8. Monakana - 1.039
9. de Alfredo - .929
10. Dortch - .923

You and Tom and others may think that you have observed Capotosto to have poor shot selection and to not pass when she should. But we keep track of these things by counting shots, shots made, assists, etc. Sometimes our perceptions are faulty for one reason or another. I'd say that this is one of those cases. I know that you're an open-minded guy, so take a look at the above statistics, and you might re-evaluate Ana's game. I'd say that we want her shooting just as much as she is. And comparing her to Zanoguera certainly was unfair, as just about anyone would look bad in comparison.

(By the way, if Ana could make a damn free throw, her ranking on that last statistic would have been really high since she does draw a lot of fouls.)

This has been a good discussion...I would like to add few things for consideration...Within the offenses that the Ladies run, it is important that all five players on the court shoot when open (last year we had some players that other teams sagged off of so much that it made it hard for her team mates to get open)...basically there two shots that are bad shots ...shooting when not open and not shooting when open...I have heard Coach stop practice many times to tell one of the players not to pass up an open shot....if they do pass up open shots they can join her on the bench... it breaks down an offense when a team works the ball around to get an open look and then have the player pass up the an open shot..as I have heard the Coach tell Ana and others that they were recruited to shoot the ball... not recruited to break an assist record...This team is going to continue to mature and get better with each game...in order to do that it is important that every player remain a threat to score...we haven't had a team with so much offensive potential in a long time...

I agree that there is better balance roster wide on the potential to score. This team will most certainly score more points than last year's team. The downside is that many of these offensive players are not playing good defense. Opponents are scoring far too many easy baskets inside and with too many open 3 point looks. I would guess that the opponents points/game will also be up substantially this year. Regarding Capatosto, I would conclude that if her shot selection improves, then the stats you quote above will more dramatically demonstrate her value. Because there is no doubt that through the first six games she has launched quite a few low percentage shots.

You are right...two things have contributed to the increase in points given up...one is the limited number of players that have been available due to injuries ..that means the ladies needed to be more aware picking up fouls .... with the limited number of fouls we could give and number of healthy and not so healthy players the coaches had to give up something defensively.... some games the outside shot and other games the inside game..unfortunately the only players that have stayed healthy so far are Ana, Inma, and Sophia....the second thing contributing to giving up more points defensively is the number of possessions the other teams are getting because of the increased number of points we are scoring...plus the coach has increased the tempo of our offense....at practice running a full court drills with the objective of scoring with in eight seconds ...the purpose is to get a shot off before the defense can set up and to wear the other teams down..as the result our possessions are much shorter...! GO BLUE.....

If it is an intended strategy to compromise defensive pressure in order to maximize offensive opportunities, then I think that could be a mistake. Its easier to play at a consistently high level defensively, if the players buy in, work hard, and have the talent, than to execute at a high level offensively game after game. There will be poor shooting games (e.g. St Mary's) and you might be able to stay in the game if the defense plays well.

(12-03-2013 09:58 PM)rocketfan70 Wrote:  

(12-03-2013 04:54 PM)hwut1 Wrote:  

(12-03-2013 03:05 PM)rocketfan70 Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 10:38 AM)hwut1 Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 08:47 AM)Dwight Wrote:  Capotosto ranks sixth on the team in shots per minute at .336.

1. Monakana - .432
2. de Alfredo - .400
3. Dortch - .363
4. Jones - .350
5. Reecher - .341
6. Capotosto - .336
7. Zanoguera - .325
8. Reed-Lewis - .314
9. Recker - .184
10. Braun - .130

Capotosto also ranks sixth on the team in shooting percentage.

1. Jones - .571
2. Zanoguera - .530
3. Reecher - .452
4. Braun - .444
5. Reed-Lewis - .440
6. Capotosto - .373
7. de Alfredo - .357
8. Dortch - .323
9. Monakana - .314
10. Recker - .286

Capotosto ranks fifth on the team in assists per minute.

1. Dortch - .151
2. Reed-Lewis - .138
3. Braun - .101
4. Zanoguera - .084
5. Capotosto - .079
6. Recker - .053
7. Reecher - .022
8. Monakana - .017
9. de Alfredo - .000 (35 minutes played)
10. Jones - .000 (80 minutes played)

Giving credit for the extra point for each three-pointer, Capotosto ranks fourth on the team in points scored on field goals per shot.

1. Jones - 1.143
2. Zanoguera - 1.061
3. de Alfredo - .929
4. Capotosto - .922
5. Reed-Lewis - .920
6. Reecher - .903
7. Braun - .889
8. Dortch - .738
9. Monakana - .725
10. Recker - .714

Finally, adding in free throws, Capotosto ranks fifth on the team in points scored per shot attempted.

1. Jones - 1.429
2. Zanoguera - 1.424
3. Braun - 1.333
4. Reed-Lewis - 1.120
5. Capotosto - 1.078
6. Reecher - 1.065
7. Recker - 1.048
8. Monakana - 1.039
9. de Alfredo - .929
10. Dortch - .923

You and Tom and others may think that you have observed Capotosto to have poor shot selection and to not pass when she should. But we keep track of these things by counting shots, shots made, assists, etc. Sometimes our perceptions are faulty for one reason or another. I'd say that this is one of those cases. I know that you're an open-minded guy, so take a look at the above statistics, and you might re-evaluate Ana's game. I'd say that we want her shooting just as much as she is. And comparing her to Zanoguera certainly was unfair, as just about anyone would look bad in comparison.

(By the way, if Ana could make a damn free throw, her ranking on that last statistic would have been really high since she does draw a lot of fouls.)

This has been a good discussion...I would like to add few things for consideration...Within the offenses that the Ladies run, it is important that all five players on the court shoot when open (last year we had some players that other teams sagged off of so much that it made it hard for her team mates to get open)...basically there two shots that are bad shots ...shooting when not open and not shooting when open...I have heard Coach stop practice many times to tell one of the players not to pass up an open shot....if they do pass up open shots they can join her on the bench... it breaks down an offense when a team works the ball around to get an open look and then have the player pass up the an open shot..as I have heard the Coach tell Ana and others that they were recruited to shoot the ball... not recruited to break an assist record...This team is going to continue to mature and get better with each game...in order to do that it is important that every player remain a threat to score...we haven't had a team with so much offensive potential in a long time...

I agree that there is better balance roster wide on the potential to score. This team will most certainly score more points than last year's team. The downside is that many of these offensive players are not playing good defense. Opponents are scoring far too many easy baskets inside and with too many open 3 point looks. I would guess that the opponents points/game will also be up substantially this year. Regarding Capatosto, I would conclude that if her shot selection improves, then the stats you quote above will more dramatically demonstrate her value. Because there is no doubt that through the first six games she has launched quite a few low percentage shots.

You are right...two things have contributed to the increase in points given up...one is the limited number of players that have been available due to injuries ..that means the ladies needed to be more aware picking up fouls .... with the limited number of fouls we could give and number of healthy and not so healthy players the coaches had to give up something defensively.... some games the outside shot and other games the inside game..unfortunately the only players that have stayed healthy so far are Ana, Inma, and Sophia....the second thing contributing to giving up more points defensively is the number of possessions the other teams are getting because of the increased number of points we are scoring...plus the coach has increased the tempo of our offense....at practice running a full court drills with the objective of scoring with in eight seconds ...the purpose is to get a shot off before the defense can set up and to wear the other teams down..as the result our possessions are much shorter...! GO BLUE.....

If it is an intended strategy to compromise defensive pressure in order to maximize offensive opportunities, then I think that could be a mistake. Its easier to play at a consistently high level defensively, if the players buy in, work hard, and have the talent, than to execute at a high level offensively game after game. There will be poor shooting games (e.g. St Mary's) and you might be able to stay in the game if the defense plays well.

I agree that is it easier to maintain a consistent level of play on D than on O where shooting can be hot or cold. Still, it takes a deep bench to play intense D all game---and not just out of concern for fouls---it is also very tiring. I am just guessing here but maybe with the new rules favoring the offense over the defense, the coaches are putting more emphasis on the Offense this year. Or it could be a matter of coaching to the strength of the current players----the absence of Smith who probably did not get the credit she deserved for her defense and rebounding efforts could also be a factor.