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We can laugh at those who thought Nebraska was going to dominate the Big Ten. They have too high expectations over there and if they wanted to dominate they should have stayed in the Big 12 where its easier.
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(11-29-2013 05:51 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  When will coaches who give sh*tty interviews (like Bill Bellicheck, Greg Popavich, now Bo) realize that, without TV, they would not be making anywhere close to what they are currently making.

Most coaches give sh!tty interviews. They are insulting in another way. They give worthless answers.

Coach, what do you plan to fix in the 2nd half? Well, we need to tackle better, execute better and give a better effort. Ok, thanks coach.
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If I were a Nebraska fan what would worry me most about being in the Big Ten is access to Texas recruits. To me that seems like their biggest issue - Pelini's antics notwithstanding.
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(11-30-2013 08:40 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  If I were a Nebraska fan what would worry me most about being in the Big Ten is access to Texas recruits. To me that seems like their biggest issue - Pelini's antics notwithstanding.

Nice try.
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appearantly the Nebraska AD has said that he'll remain the head coach.
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(11-30-2013 11:58 AM)stever20 Wrote:  appearantly the Nebraska AD has said that he'll remain the head coach.

In the end, the AD is a CFO of the Athletic Department. The cost was too much to get rid of him and as some others have said, the competition for coaches this off season may be too great to overcome considering the cost of getting into that ring this year.
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I am embarrassed to say that I listen to Bill King, off and on going to work, but a UN fan called in (or at least he said he was) and said he did not think Bo should be fired. He then recollected about a game he had watched where UN had an officials call had gone against them, and he said Pelini had obsessed about the call for a number of plays afterward and seemed it effected his coaching during that time.

I am sure many coaches have had this happen to them, how many have been in Nebraska. I do not see them firing him this year, but next year, all bets are off, even with the fans that are not on that fence yet.
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(11-30-2013 09:29 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(11-30-2013 08:40 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  If I were a Nebraska fan what would worry me most about being in the Big Ten is access to Texas recruits. To me that seems like their biggest issue - Pelini's antics notwithstanding.

Nice try.

He's right, though. That's a great program and probably one of the most obvious or logical additions a conference could make, but that program got that way getting kids from places by way of OU and CU. I noticed they weren't the same soon after competing directly with multiple Texas schools and after Colorado de-emphasized their program.

And I like the Big Ten. It's not just the coach at UNL that's hurting them...
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(11-29-2013 08:00 PM)Gopper Wrote:  
(11-29-2013 05:51 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  When will coaches who give sh*tty interviews (like Bill Bellicheck, Greg Popavich, now Bo) realize that, without TV, they would not be making anywhere close to what they are currently making.
lol @ u comparing BB & Pop to Bo

(11-29-2013 08:37 PM)Maize Wrote:  
(11-29-2013 08:00 PM)Gopper Wrote:  
(11-29-2013 05:51 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  When will coaches who give sh*tty interviews (like Bill Bellicheck, Greg Popavich, now Bo) realize that, without TV, they would not be making anywhere close to what they are currently making.
lol @ u comparing BB & Pop to Bo

Was about to say the same....Belicheck & Pop = Hall of Fame Championship Coach....Bo...Not so much....03-lmfao

lol @ u 2 since nowhere did I say they were the same in terms of coaching ability. I'm talking about how they give interviews and treat reporters.
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(11-30-2013 01:19 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(11-29-2013 11:39 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  
(11-29-2013 08:28 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  I heard a comment that buying out Bo and his staff would cost about 25 million. That combined with JR's comments about the queue forming for new coaches means the we'll be treated to Pellini's antics for another year.
His contract runs through 2017. He actually dared Nebraska to fire him today after the game. He tore the band off of his hat and I thought for a while it hit the ref. Could have knocked his right eye out. He is just out of control and it's one incident after another. Ever see Osborne do this silly stuff?

After seeing him today, I am pretty sure he has been under an immense amount of negative pressure for quite a few weeks. He snapped.

Makes me wonder if he has any "conduct clauses" in his contract.

Yeah, I bet Nebraska's brass were hoping he would make contact with someone... anyone. The old rule that most people end up in a position in their career that is one step above their competency/skills is true in this case as well as with Muschamp. The sad thing is that Nebraska made the same mistake on the offensive end with Bill Callahan.
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(12-01-2013 11:38 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  
(11-30-2013 09:29 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(11-30-2013 08:40 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  If I were a Nebraska fan what would worry me most about being in the Big Ten is access to Texas recruits. To me that seems like their biggest issue - Pelini's antics notwithstanding.

Nice try.

He's right, though. That's a great program and probably one of the most obvious or logical additions a conference could make, but that program got that way getting kids from places by way of OU and CU. I noticed they weren't the same soon after competing directly with multiple Texas schools and after Colorado de-emphasized their program.

And I like the Big Ten. It's not just the coach at UNL that's hurting them...

The problem isn't not recruiting Texas. They can find decent recruits elsewhere and create the proper system for those recruits. The problem is that Pelini is a HORRIBLE recruiter. They were losing Texas recruits before they even left the Big 12. So in that sense Yinzer is wrong and is just pushing an old idea in his way of taking passive shots at the Big Ten.

Nebraska will be just fine with a younger, forward thinking coach with some charisma. They need an exciting offense and a culture there that can draw recruits from some distance away.

That is what Nebraska needs. They don't need someone with a narrow mind that thinks that there are only quality recruits in the State of Texas.
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Hey Pelini…maybe you should try winning first before you roll out the arrogant smug arse schtick
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(12-01-2013 01:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(12-01-2013 11:38 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  
(11-30-2013 09:29 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(11-30-2013 08:40 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  If I were a Nebraska fan what would worry me most about being in the Big Ten is access to Texas recruits. To me that seems like their biggest issue - Pelini's antics notwithstanding.

Nice try.

He's right, though. That's a great program and probably one of the most obvious or logical additions a conference could make, but that program got that way getting kids from places by way of OU and CU. I noticed they weren't the same soon after competing directly with multiple Texas schools and after Colorado de-emphasized their program.

And I like the Big Ten. It's not just the coach at UNL that's hurting them...

The problem isn't not recruiting Texas. They can find decent recruits elsewhere and create the proper system for those recruits. The problem is that Pelini is a HORRIBLE recruiter. They were losing Texas recruits before they even left the Big 12. So in that sense Yinzer is wrong and is just pushing an old idea in his way of taking passive shots at the Big Ten.

Nebraska will be just fine with a younger, forward thinking coach with some charisma. They need an exciting offense and a culture there that can draw recruits from some distance away.

That is what Nebraska needs. They don't need someone with a narrow mind that thinks that there are only quality recruits in the State of Texas.

Wasn't this the Bill Callahan experiement?
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(12-01-2013 07:26 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  
(12-01-2013 01:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  The problem isn't not recruiting Texas. They can find decent recruits elsewhere and create the proper system for those recruits. The problem is that Pelini is a HORRIBLE recruiter. They were losing Texas recruits before they even left the Big 12. So in that sense Yinzer is wrong and is just pushing an old idea in his way of taking passive shots at the Big Ten.

Nebraska will be just fine with a younger, forward thinking coach with some charisma. They need an exciting offense and a culture there that can draw recruits from some distance away.

That is what Nebraska needs. They don't need someone with a narrow mind that thinks that there are only quality recruits in the State of Texas.

Wasn't this the Bill Callahan experiement?

Bill Callahan? Charisma?

I'd guess Nebraska is looking to Scott Frost (former Nebraska QB, current Oregon OC) as a future head coach, but he is in his first year as an OC, and the buyouts for Pelini and staff, if fired now, would reportedly cost more than $7 million.
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Some supposedly Cornsucker insiders say,
Pelini was reconsidered 4 another year for two reasons:
Contract buyout &
Former Ohio St coach Jim Tressel
has one more yr. of NCAA coaching probation
B4 he can coach again.
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(12-01-2013 01:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  They can find decent recruits elsewhere and create the proper system for those recruits.

The magical "elsewhere." Much easier said than done. And for Nebraska, remember that Lincoln is about as far away from Chicago as it was Boulder, and was already dipping into that part of the midwest/Big Ten region (as was Missouri). Drafting off of Oklahoma's grip in Texas, and Colorado's dalliances on the west coast made Nebraska a great anchor in the great plains with an incredible reach. Now, as the western arm of a Rust Belt conference, and not exactly leaving gracefully and doing whatever was necessary to keep games like Oklahoma, Colorado, a Texas school, or even just Kansas or Missouri on the schedule immediately upon departure...it's not just a good coach who can make up for those losses, and legitimate "double threats" (good coaches and recruiters) don't come often or cheap. I don't know if Nebraska could keep one even if they had one. They need a great coach, incredible staff, and a world class athletic director. Big-time money to keep and maintain that.

But, suppose they do build a new pipeline, and follow Penn State's old trail: PA, NY, eastern OH, MD, NorVA, NJ, and western CT. How do you recruit against PSU academically? How do you recruit against them based on distance from home? How do you recruit against them based on location (both are in the middle of nowhere, but it's not like that can't be remedied with 3-4 hours in a car or bus at PSU)? It's not like you can tell kids they'll be getting games throughout the Midwest, Great Plains, and the Rockies. Based on how the conference will be divided, they won't even get much of a chance to regularly visit Ohio, Michigan, the Beltway, or the NYC area. And when they do, they still have to compete against schools like Rutgers, Maryland, UM, OSU, ACC schools, and maybe even some SEC ones. I'm not quite sure it's any easier a task than what they lost.
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(12-02-2013 09:15 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  
(12-01-2013 01:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  They can find decent recruits elsewhere and create the proper system for those recruits.

The magical "elsewhere." Much easier said than done. And for Nebraska, remember that Lincoln is about as far away from Chicago as it was Boulder, and was already dipping into that part of the midwest/Big Ten region (as was Missouri). Drafting off of Oklahoma's grip in Texas, and Colorado's dalliances on the west coast made Nebraska a great anchor in the great plains with an incredible reach. Now, as the western arm of a Rust Belt conference, and not exactly leaving gracefully and doing whatever was necessary to keep games like Oklahoma, Colorado, a Texas school, or even just Kansas or Missouri on the schedule immediately upon departure...it's not just a good coach who can make up for those losses, and legitimate "double threats" (good coaches and recruiters) don't come often or cheap. I don't know if Nebraska could keep one even if they had one. They need a great coach, incredible staff, and a world class athletic director. Big-time money to keep and maintain that.

But, suppose they do build a new pipeline, and follow Penn State's old trail: PA, NY, eastern OH, MD, NorVA, NJ, and western CT. How do you recruit against PSU academically? How do you recruit against them based on distance from home? How do you recruit against them based on location (both are in the middle of nowhere, but it's not like that can't be remedied with 3-4 hours in a car or bus at PSU)? It's not like you can tell kids they'll be getting games throughout the Midwest, Great Plains, and the Rockies. Based on how the conference will be divided, they won't even get much of a chance to regularly visit Ohio, Michigan, the Beltway, or the NYC area. And when they do, they still have to compete against schools like Rutgers, Maryland, UM, OSU, ACC schools, and maybe even some SEC ones. I'm not quite sure it's any easier a task than what they lost.
And a lot of Missouri and Texas kids are looking at the SEC now. What parent watching Pelini on the sidelines would encourage their son to go play for him at Nebraska. He actually looks psychotic during these tantrums.
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(12-02-2013 02:20 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  
(12-02-2013 09:15 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  
(12-01-2013 01:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  They can find decent recruits elsewhere and create the proper system for those recruits.

The magical "elsewhere." Much easier said than done. And for Nebraska, remember that Lincoln is about as far away from Chicago as it was Boulder, and was already dipping into that part of the midwest/Big Ten region (as was Missouri). Drafting off of Oklahoma's grip in Texas, and Colorado's dalliances on the west coast made Nebraska a great anchor in the great plains with an incredible reach. Now, as the western arm of a Rust Belt conference, and not exactly leaving gracefully and doing whatever was necessary to keep games like Oklahoma, Colorado, a Texas school, or even just Kansas or Missouri on the schedule immediately upon departure...it's not just a good coach who can make up for those losses, and legitimate "double threats" (good coaches and recruiters) don't come often or cheap. I don't know if Nebraska could keep one even if they had one. They need a great coach, incredible staff, and a world class athletic director. Big-time money to keep and maintain that.

But, suppose they do build a new pipeline, and follow Penn State's old trail: PA, NY, eastern OH, MD, NorVA, NJ, and western CT. How do you recruit against PSU academically? How do you recruit against them based on distance from home? How do you recruit against them based on location (both are in the middle of nowhere, but it's not like that can't be remedied with 3-4 hours in a car or bus at PSU)? It's not like you can tell kids they'll be getting games throughout the Midwest, Great Plains, and the Rockies. Based on how the conference will be divided, they won't even get much of a chance to regularly visit Ohio, Michigan, the Beltway, or the NYC area. And when they do, they still have to compete against schools like Rutgers, Maryland, UM, OSU, ACC schools, and maybe even some SEC ones. I'm not quite sure it's any easier a task than what they lost.
And a lot of Missouri and Texas kids are looking at the SEC now. What parent watching Pelini on the sidelines would encourage their son to go play for him at Nebraska. He actually looks psychotic during these tantrums.

I think former players using social media to lambaste the guy and the whole program looks worse. That kind of amplification, coming from some of the best and cheapest PR a program has at its disposal? While a nutjob roams the sidelines? Go elsewhere.
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(12-02-2013 09:15 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  
(12-01-2013 01:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  They can find decent recruits elsewhere and create the proper system for those recruits.

The magical "elsewhere." Much easier said than done. And for Nebraska, remember that Lincoln is about as far away from Chicago as it was Boulder, and was already dipping into that part of the midwest/Big Ten region (as was Missouri). Drafting off of Oklahoma's grip in Texas, and Colorado's dalliances on the west coast made Nebraska a great anchor in the great plains with an incredible reach. Now, as the western arm of a Rust Belt conference, and not exactly leaving gracefully and doing whatever was necessary to keep games like Oklahoma, Colorado, a Texas school, or even just Kansas or Missouri on the schedule immediately upon departure...it's not just a good coach who can make up for those losses, and legitimate "double threats" (good coaches and recruiters) don't come often or cheap. I don't know if Nebraska could keep one even if they had one. They need a great coach, incredible staff, and a world class athletic director. Big-time money to keep and maintain that.

But, suppose they do build a new pipeline, and follow Penn State's old trail: PA, NY, eastern OH, MD, NorVA, NJ, and western CT. How do you recruit against PSU academically? How do you recruit against them based on distance from home? How do you recruit against them based on location (both are in the middle of nowhere, but it's not like that can't be remedied with 3-4 hours in a car or bus at PSU)? It's not like you can tell kids they'll be getting games throughout the Midwest, Great Plains, and the Rockies. Based on how the conference will be divided, they won't even get much of a chance to regularly visit Ohio, Michigan, the Beltway, or the NYC area. And when they do, they still have to compete against schools like Rutgers, Maryland, UM, OSU, ACC schools, and maybe even some SEC ones. I'm not quite sure it's any easier a task than what they lost.

Iowa does fine. Our starting quarterback is from Florida and we went 8-4 this year. I think it is more ridiculous that you are trying to sell the line that Nebraska absolutely needs Texas recruiting when there are other locations that Big Ten schools all recruit from just fine. Of course you will respond with the usual simple response of Big Ten football being boring slow and blah blah blah due to whatever you wish to concoct as your reason for such. It doesn't matter. The Big Ten will continue to get as much consideration as any other conference if not more. The Big Ten will continue to have just as good of Bowl Contracts as any other conference.

Nebraska is better off in the Big Ten than in the Big 12 where they were already trailing off and were already not recruiting Texas well. Take a look at their roster sometime if you actually wish to do some research rather than just making kneejerk responses.

Nebraska will be fine. The popular mindset of condemning the Big Ten is just downright amusing. You talk about how bad Nebraska has it in the Big Ten and their poor recruiting ability. I bet they go to a better bowl this year than most of the Big 12 does.

Enjoy that Fiesta Bowl! The Big 12 is landing the same opponent for their champion that some of our "mediocre" schools with "poor recruiting" schedule early in the year for regional, geographically based game.

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(12-03-2013 08:06 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(12-02-2013 09:15 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  
(12-01-2013 01:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  They can find decent recruits elsewhere and create the proper system for those recruits.

The magical "elsewhere." Much easier said than done. And for Nebraska, remember that Lincoln is about as far away from Chicago as it was Boulder, and was already dipping into that part of the midwest/Big Ten region (as was Missouri). Drafting off of Oklahoma's grip in Texas, and Colorado's dalliances on the west coast made Nebraska a great anchor in the great plains with an incredible reach. Now, as the western arm of a Rust Belt conference, and not exactly leaving gracefully and doing whatever was necessary to keep games like Oklahoma, Colorado, a Texas school, or even just Kansas or Missouri on the schedule immediately upon departure...it's not just a good coach who can make up for those losses, and legitimate "double threats" (good coaches and recruiters) don't come often or cheap. I don't know if Nebraska could keep one even if they had one. They need a great coach, incredible staff, and a world class athletic director. Big-time money to keep and maintain that.

But, suppose they do build a new pipeline, and follow Penn State's old trail: PA, NY, eastern OH, MD, NorVA, NJ, and western CT. How do you recruit against PSU academically? How do you recruit against them based on distance from home? How do you recruit against them based on location (both are in the middle of nowhere, but it's not like that can't be remedied with 3-4 hours in a car or bus at PSU)? It's not like you can tell kids they'll be getting games throughout the Midwest, Great Plains, and the Rockies. Based on how the conference will be divided, they won't even get much of a chance to regularly visit Ohio, Michigan, the Beltway, or the NYC area. And when they do, they still have to compete against schools like Rutgers, Maryland, UM, OSU, ACC schools, and maybe even some SEC ones. I'm not quite sure it's any easier a task than what they lost.

Iowa does fine. Our starting quarterback is from Florida and we went 8-4 this year. I think it is more ridiculous that you are trying to sell the line that Nebraska absolutely needs Texas recruiting when there are other locations that Big Ten schools all recruit from just fine. Of course you will respond with the usual simple response of Big Ten football being boring slow and blah blah blah due to whatever you wish to concoct as your reason for such. It doesn't matter. The Big Ten will continue to get as much consideration as any other conference if not more. The Big Ten will continue to have just as good of Bowl Contracts as any other conference.

Nebraska is better off in the Big Ten than in the Big 12 where they were already trailing off and were already not recruiting Texas well. Take a look at their roster sometime if you actually wish to do some research rather than just making kneejerk responses.

Nebraska will be fine. The popular mindset of condemning the Big Ten is just downright amusing. You talk about how bad Nebraska has it in the Big Ten and their poor recruiting ability. I bet they go to a better bowl this year than most of the Big 12 does.

Enjoy that Fiesta Bowl! The Big 12 is landing the same opponent for their champion that some of our "mediocre" schools with "poor recruiting" schedule early in the year for regional, geographically based game.

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Another swing and a miss.

The concern over Texas, it's not just a football recruiting thing. I think the school has gone through so much over the last few decades with their enrollment profile, the deterioration of morale in the school among its faculty (and its bad faculty retention, which was said to be a big red flag in their AAU assessment), and the disgrace of losing the AAU distinction that during the whole thing (and this has been going on for well over a decade there prior to the expulsion), the school itself just didn't do a good job with its alumni pockets in other states. I suspect that with a happy, well nurtured alumni pocket/satellite office, coaches and their recruiting habits would be insignificant. If Nebraska isn't doing well in places like Texas, it's not just because of a coach. It's because the school in general doesn't have the support in that state where it once did. Either the alumni turned their backs on the school, or the school turned their back on them.
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