Today, US bombers flew over Japanese islands illegally claimed by Communist China in an act of defiance of the Communist nation's government's proclamation of a so-called "Air Defense Identification Zone" (ADIZ). The military exercise was planned prior to the Chinese government's inflammatory movement.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/26/world/asia...?hpt=hp_t1

China claims the South China Sea up to the Phillipine Coast. Keep up the Freedom of Navigation exercises.

Impossibru!

So trying to stir up a little international dispute to distract the easily distracted, eh?

Probably not a good idea to play politics by wagging that particular dog though..

i fucken love it!!!!!!!!

when north korea started acting up we sent the stealth bombers and they immediately stood down.

back in the day countries would send battleships off the coast of countries to make a point. now we just use bombers for the same effect.

The thing is, we don't give a crap whose islands they are. So, not exactly the same thing.

(11-26-2013 07:14 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The thing is, we don't give a crap whose islands they are. So, not exactly the same thing.

its not so much the island but the large chunks of ocean china is trying to claim for themselves that contain oil

(11-26-2013 07:18 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(11-26-2013 07:14 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The thing is, we don't give a crap whose islands they are. So, not exactly the same thing.

its not so much the island but the large chunks of ocean china is trying to claim for themselves that contain oil

I'm not so sure that is the primary driver in the issue related to these specific islands.

(11-26-2013 07:22 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(11-26-2013 07:18 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(11-26-2013 07:14 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The thing is, we don't give a crap whose islands they are. So, not exactly the same thing.

its not so much the island but the large chunks of ocean china is trying to claim for themselves that contain oil

I'm not so sure that is the primary driver in the issue related to these specific islands.

the problem with SE asia is that all these countries have had various surges in military power over the past 150 years an are always trying to force their will on each other when one has the cards over the other. you need a 6 circle venn diagram to explain it all because its that fucken complicated.

N Korea & S Korea have their beef
Taiwan & china have their beef

china-japan have an island dispute
s korea-japan have an island dispute
Taiwan-japan have an island dispute
japan-russia have an island dispute

these guys are literally fighting over coral reefs

(11-26-2013 08:47 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(11-26-2013 07:22 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(11-26-2013 07:18 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(11-26-2013 07:14 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The thing is, we don't give a crap whose islands they are. So, not exactly the same thing.

its not so much the island but the large chunks of ocean china is trying to claim for themselves that contain oil

I'm not so sure that is the primary driver in the issue related to these specific islands.

the problem with SE asia is that all these countries have had various surges in military power over the past 150 years an are always trying to force their will on each other when one has the cards over the other. you need a 6 circle venn diagram to explain it all because its that fucken complicated.

N Korea & S Korea have their beef
Taiwan & china have their beef

china-japan have an island dispute
s korea-japan have an island dispute
Taiwan-japan have an island dispute
japan-russia have an island dispute

these guys are literally fighting over coral reefs

It really isn't complicated at all if you look at it from a historical perspective. It's strikingly simple.

Besides, the Koreas and Japan are not part of "SE Asia."

(11-26-2013 08:47 PM)john01992 Wrote:  the problem with SE asia is that all these countries have had various surges in military power over the past 150 years an are always trying to force their will on each other when one has the cards over the other. you need a 6 circle venn diagram to explain it all because its that fucken complicated.

N Korea & S Korea have their beef
Taiwan & china have their beef

china-japan have an island dispute
s korea-japan have an island dispute
Taiwan-japan have an island dispute
japan-russia have an island dispute

these guys are literally fighting over coral reefs

Neither China, nor Japan, nor South Korea, nor North Korea, nor Taiwan, nor Russia are in "SE asia" nor are they "literally fighting over coral reefs."

You are an amazingly, hilariously, remarkably poor poster. Honest to Huskie Jebus you should be ashamed with yourself. Words have meaning. Post more carefully.

I can't believe that Obammy approved this. Yet someone near the top had to give the OK. This could get interesting.

(11-26-2013 08:47 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(11-26-2013 07:22 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(11-26-2013 07:18 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(11-26-2013 07:14 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The thing is, we don't give a crap whose islands they are. So, not exactly the same thing.

its not so much the island but the large chunks of ocean china is trying to claim for themselves that contain oil

I'm not so sure that is the primary driver in the issue related to these specific islands.

the problem with SE asia is that all these countries have had various surges in military power over the past 150 years an are always trying to force their will on each other when one has the cards over the other. you need a 6 circle venn diagram to explain it all because its that fucken complicated.

N Korea & S Korea have their beef
Taiwan & china have their beef

china-japan have an island dispute
s korea-japan have an island dispute
Taiwan-japan have an island dispute
japan-russia have an island dispute

these guys are literally fighting over coral reefs

Let them eat cake.

This is because China & Japan are talking about not buying our bonds anymore, which would obviously lead to financial collapse of the US welfare/police states...

Can't have that, now can we?

(11-27-2013 09:26 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  This is because China & Japan are talking about not buying our bonds anymore, which would obviously lead to financial collapse of the US welfare/police states...

Can't have that, now can we?

HOw would drawing squares in the ocean with ships and flyovers with Bombers change China and Japan's mind. Japan just recently launched in first Amphibious ship in over 60 years. S. Korea have a variant of DDG the has 20 more VLS tubes than the Arliegh Burke. In 2006 the US sold Taiwan 4 Kidd class destroyers to augment their Navy.

Tensions in and around the South China Sea have been rising for almost 15 years. Ultimately, this scale up is about containment of China with regard to Freedom of Navigation. Without these type of challenges, China would eventually assert that the South China was Territorial Waters. And by International Naval they would be correct. These actions are no different than when the U.S. challenged Muammar Gaddafi 'Line of Death' in the Gulf of Sidra.