Quote: "My wife and I have religious beliefs that say to us it's a sin," David Parker said. He's referring to four pages in a book his 5-year-old son was given by his Massachusetts kindergarten teachers.

The book "Who's In a Family" -- included in a "diversity book bag" for students at Estabrook Elementary School -- is about all kinds of families, including multi-racial, single parent and, to Parker's chagrin, same-sex parents.

There are two main issues in this controversy, which are being debated far beyond the Estabrook school: Is teaching kids about gays and lesbians tolerance or propaganda? And how much control do parents have over what their children are taught?

In several conversations by phone, mail and e-mail, Parker asked teachers and officials at the school to notify him any time the subject of homosexuality was discussed in class.

"When affirmation and normalization of these lifestyles come up, parents want to know about [it] and have the option to opt out," he said.

Dr. Paul Ash, superintendent of Lexington Public Schools, said the school tried to be accommodating.

"The school department said, 'Look, we'll work with you, but we cannot assure you what a child is going to say and that we can immediately stop a discussion that you find objectionable,'" said Ash. "One of the central units in kindergarten is the discussion of families and we show families of all different types." Ash says the discussions "ended up in an irreconcilable difference."

After one meeting in April, Parker refused to leave the school without that assurance. He was arrested and, after refusing to post the $40 bail, he spent the night in jail.

The school board then obtained a restraining order to keep him off school property.

Last month, the community held rallies both for and against Parker on the Lexington green. Many parents, after all, agree with the school's effort to instill sensitivity in a state where same-sex marriage is legal.

"We try to treat all the families as being equal and being equally valid, and anything short of that is doing a disservice to all of our children," said Laura Tully, an Estabrook parent. "I don't see a middle ground here."

The same can be said for same-sex marriage opponents.

"This is sort of lunacy to have same-sex partners discussed in a first grade or a kindergarten," said Brian Camenker, president of Article 8 Alliance, a group opposing same-sex marriage.

Parker's jury trial for trespassing on school property begins tomorrow. He says the outcome will not stop him from protesting if teachers discuss homosexuality with his son. This is likely to be a controversy coming soon to a school -- or book bag -- near you.

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1230620&page=1

Kindergarten is too young for this subject. This is insane.

Positive Rep me and I'll vote for Obama in 2016

this just reaffirms that cons will bi.tch about ANYTHING......

does a neo-nazi complain when his child learns about the WWII concentration camps???

does a KKK member complain when his child learns about MLK????

do you guys have a problem when they teach in school that blacks & whites, men & women, christians, jews, & muslims should all be treated equally?????

so why should you guys bi.tch that they teach about same sex couples when they teach the different types of families?

considering that you guys resort to any reference to gays "as gay propaganda" and that you actually have a problem with a diversity week. you guys sure live up to the names/insults i label you as.....

(11-18-2013 11:14 AM)john01992 Wrote:  this just reaffirms that cons will bi.tch about ANYTHING......

does a neo-nazi complain when his child learns about the WWII concentration camps???

does a KKK member complain when his child learns about MLK????

do you guys have a problem when they teach in school that blacks & whites, men & women, christians, jews, & muslims should all be treated equally?????

so why should you guys bi.tch that they teach about same sex couples when they teach the different types of families?

considering that you guys resort to any reference to gays "as gay propaganda" and that you actually have a problem with a diversity week. you guys sure live up to the names/insults i label you as.....

I don't mind my kids being exposed to this deviance at some point but KINDERGARTEN!?!?!? REALLY!?!?!

Positive Rep me and I'll vote for Obama in 2016

(11-18-2013 11:13 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  Kindergarten is too young for this subject. This is insane.

Positive Rep me and I'll vote for Obama in 2016

Mine will be in kindergarten next year... way too young. I didn't even know homosexualists really even existed in numbers outside the Jerry Springer show until I was out of high school.

(11-18-2013 11:14 AM)john01992 Wrote:  this just reaffirms that cons will bi.tch about ANYTHING......

does a neo-nazi complain when his child learns about the WWII concentration camps???

does a KKK member complain when his child learns about MLK????

do you guys have a problem when they teach in school that blacks & whites, men & women, christians, jews, & muslims should all be treated equally?????

so why should you guys bi.tch that they teach about same sex couples when they teach the different types of families?

It's funny b/c the answer to your questions was in this article. Yet you persist w/ your own bigotry.

I take comfort in knowing that my beliefs oppose those of fools. That's a good place to be.

Another gay oriented thread.
Is someone eaten up with the subject.

(11-18-2013 11:16 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 11:14 AM)john01992 Wrote:  this just reaffirms that cons will bi.tch about ANYTHING......

does a neo-nazi complain when his child learns about the WWII concentration camps???

does a KKK member complain when his child learns about MLK????

do you guys have a problem when they teach in school that blacks & whites, men & women, christians, jews, & muslims should all be treated equally?????

so why should you guys bi.tch that they teach about same sex couples when they teach the different types of families?

considering that you guys resort to any reference to gays "as gay propaganda" and that you actually have a problem with a diversity week. you guys sure live up to the names/insults i label you as.....

I don't mind my kids being exposed to this deviance at some point but KINDERGARTEN!?!?!? REALLY!?!?!

Positive Rep me and I'll vote for Obama in 2016

part of their curriculum is teaching the different types of families. gay marriage is legal in the state so of course they are gonna explain that matt has to daddies and heather has two mommies and its as simple as that.

their not exactly teach scissoring, 69 or anal sex.

(11-18-2013 11:20 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Another gay oriented thread.
Is someone eaten up with the subject.

In fairness, the headlines are out there.

(11-18-2013 11:20 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 11:16 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 11:14 AM)john01992 Wrote:  this just reaffirms that cons will bi.tch about ANYTHING......

does a neo-nazi complain when his child learns about the WWII concentration camps???

does a KKK member complain when his child learns about MLK????

do you guys have a problem when they teach in school that blacks & whites, men & women, christians, jews, & muslims should all be treated equally?????

so why should you guys bi.tch that they teach about same sex couples when they teach the different types of families?

considering that you guys resort to any reference to gays "as gay propaganda" and that you actually have a problem with a diversity week. you guys sure live up to the names/insults i label you as.....

I don't mind my kids being exposed to this deviance at some point but KINDERGARTEN!?!?!? REALLY!?!?!

Positive Rep me and I'll vote for Obama in 2016

part of their curriculum is teaching the different types of families. gay marriage is legal in the state so of course they are gonna explain that matt has to daddies and heather has two mommies and its as simple as that.

their not exactly teach scissoring, 69 or anal sex.

First of all their and they're are not interchangeable and secondly in what universe is it OK to teach this to a five year old? Later on sure, but a five year old does not need exposure to this.

Positive Rep me and I'll vote for Obama in 2016

We try to treat all the families as being equal and being equally valid

^^^^^
is that really that hard to comprehend CONS???????

seriously if this bothers you enough to spend a night in jail........enroll your kids in private school or home school them

(11-18-2013 11:23 AM)john01992 Wrote:  We try to treat all the families as being equal and being equally valid

^^^^^
is that really that hard to comprehend CONS???????

seriously if this bothers you enough to spend a night in jail........enroll your kids in private school or home school them

But all families aren't equal and equally valid. You still don't get it. David's family with a mom and a dad is superior to all of the other alternative families to include single moms. That is what we need to start recognizing again if we want to stop the train wreck.

(11-18-2013 11:23 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 11:20 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 11:16 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 11:14 AM)john01992 Wrote:  this just reaffirms that cons will bi.tch about ANYTHING......

does a neo-nazi complain when his child learns about the WWII concentration camps???

does a KKK member complain when his child learns about MLK????

do you guys have a problem when they teach in school that blacks & whites, men & women, christians, jews, & muslims should all be treated equally?????

so why should you guys bi.tch that they teach about same sex couples when they teach the different types of families?

considering that you guys resort to any reference to gays "as gay propaganda" and that you actually have a problem with a diversity week. you guys sure live up to the names/insults i label you as.....

I don't mind my kids being exposed to this deviance at some point but KINDERGARTEN!?!?!? REALLY!?!?!

Positive Rep me and I'll vote for Obama in 2016

part of their curriculum is teaching the different types of families. gay marriage is legal in the state so of course they are gonna explain that matt has to daddies and heather has two mommies and its as simple as that.

their not exactly teach scissoring, 69 or anal sex.

First of all their and they're are not interchangeable and secondly in what universe is it OK to teach this to a five year old? Later on sure, but a five year old does not need exposure to this.

Positive Rep me and I'll vote for Obama in 2016

dude its really not that advanced. all they are talking about is. whats a dad? whats an uncle? whats a brother?

its not gay awareness week they are talking about families so of course they mention ALL the types of families.

Geez, kindergarten is to young. I had a hard enough time trying to explain the gay dudes on Modern Family.

(11-18-2013 11:26 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 11:23 AM)john01992 Wrote:  We try to treat all the families as being equal and being equally valid

^^^^^
is that really that hard to comprehend CONS???????

seriously if this bothers you enough to spend a night in jail........enroll your kids in private school or home school them

But all families aren't equal. You still don't get it. David's family with a mom and a dad is superior to all of the other alternative families to include single moms. That is what we need to start recognizing again if we want to stop the train wreck.

and who says that? the supreme court? the constitution? the state court?

no ==> your political agenda says that. and i dunno about you but i would much rather have political agenda's left out of the classroom. would you complain if they taught that jews & muslims are inferior to christians and that christianity was the one true religion.



-on second thought you probably would support that ==> but i think you get the point. or you should.

(11-18-2013 11:30 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 11:26 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 11:23 AM)john01992 Wrote:  We try to treat all the families as being equal and being equally valid

^^^^^
is that really that hard to comprehend CONS???????

seriously if this bothers you enough to spend a night in jail........enroll your kids in private school or home school them

But all families aren't equal. You still don't get it. David's family with a mom and a dad is superior to all of the other alternative families to include single moms. That is what we need to start recognizing again if we want to stop the train wreck.

and who says that? the supreme court? the constitution? the state court?

no ==> your political agenda says that. and i dunno about you but i would much rather have political agenda's left out of the classroom. would you complain if they taught that jews & muslims are inferior to christians and that christianity was the one true religion.



-on second thought you probably would support that ==> but i think you get the point. or you should.

I agree. And the homosexualist agenda should be out of the classroom as well. Marriage and family should be a topic for home, not school, unless you want to pay for a private school that will push your agenda.

It appears to me that this is just to keep some kids from being bullied due to a situation they had nothing to do with... their parents. They cannot help it if they were born into a family with 2 dads or 2 moms or interracial parents or a divorced family. It seems to me that the school is trying to be proactive by just saying that kids come from all kinds of backgrounds. Fine with me... I'm positive it isn't going to make my son turn gay all the sudden.

(11-18-2013 11:20 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Another gay oriented thread.
Is someone eaten up with the subject.

You are free to start another Obamacare thread. I promise I won't go in and ***** and complain about it.

(11-18-2013 11:32 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 11:30 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 11:26 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 11:23 AM)john01992 Wrote:  We try to treat all the families as being equal and being equally valid

^^^^^
is that really that hard to comprehend CONS???????

seriously if this bothers you enough to spend a night in jail........enroll your kids in private school or home school them

But all families aren't equal. You still don't get it. David's family with a mom and a dad is superior to all of the other alternative families to include single moms. That is what we need to start recognizing again if we want to stop the train wreck.

and who says that? the supreme court? the constitution? the state court?

no ==> your political agenda says that. and i dunno about you but i would much rather have political agenda's left out of the classroom. would you complain if they taught that jews & muslims are inferior to christians and that christianity was the one true religion.



-on second thought you probably would support that ==> but i think you get the point. or you should.

I agree. And the homosexualist agenda should be out of the classroom as well. Marriage and family should be a topic for home, not school, unless you want to pay for a private school that will push your agenda.

lemme ask you two questions. can same sex couples be legally married in that state? is their marriage considered any less valid in the eyes of the law of that state?

so why should it not be taught in school when they talk about all the different types of families?

(11-18-2013 11:34 AM)mlb Wrote:  It appears to me that this is just to keep some kids from being bullied due to a situation they had nothing to do with... their parents. They cannot help it if they were born into a family with 2 dads or 2 moms or interracial parents or a divorced family. It seems to me that the school is trying to be proactive by just saying that kids come from all kinds of backgrounds. Fine with me... I'm positive it isn't going to make my son turn gay all the sudden.

thank you!!!!!!!

im glad some people here are logical