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Top Officials Were Warned The Website was Going to Crash and Burn; Zero Unconcerned
Emails show officials warned of ObamaCare website 'crash' in July

Quote:WASHINGTON – Nearly three months before the rocky Oct. 1 launch of HealthCare.gov, senior managers in charge of creating the online exchanges repeatedly warned of problems with the site -- with one voicing concern the team might "crash the plane at take-off."

The warnings were included in internal emails that were released Friday by Republicans on the House Energy and Commerce Committee. Two series of internal emails in July between officials at the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, including HealthCare.gov project manager Henry Chao, detailed struggles with the creation, development and implementation of the website.

Problems also included staff shortages and significant issues with the software, according to the documents.

“I just need to feel more confident they are not going to crash the plane at take-off,” Chao wrote in a July 16 email, which was sent ahead of a meeting with then-prime contractor CGI Federal. Chao described the agency’s low confidence level on everything from repeated requests for deadline extensions to poor quality assurance with the software.

“Figure out how to get that conversation conducted and message conveyed,” Chao wrote.

In another email dated July 8, Jeff Grant from the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, openly aired his frustrations with the project which he called “way off track and getting worse.”
11-15-2013 04:15 PM
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Your Federal Government at work, and now the left wants them in charge of our health care.

Brilliance. Sheer brilliance.
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Why would anyone who is against Obamacare be upset that the website to sign up isn't working well?

You would think they would be jumping for joy.
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The press conference was the kind no president ever wants to have: admitting his political enemies have a point. He conceded that a project his administration spent years on is structurally flawed to a degree they did not anticipate and can’t explain. He confessed that his team did not fully grasp how to manage the federal government. And acknowledged he’s become a “burden” on members of his own party.

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So Obama is now allowing people to keep their policies until 2014 or go back the the one they had?

I'm I understanding that right?
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(11-15-2013 04:47 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  So Obama is now allowing people to keep their policies until 2014 or go back the the one they had?

I'm I understanding that right?

No what he said, if you read between the lines, is Zero admits he and his team failed, epic. The gov't cannot do anything right,. and It's on him.
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(11-15-2013 04:43 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Why would anyone who is against Obamacare be upset that the website to sign up isn't working well?

You would think they would be jumping for joy.

Amazing. Do you do this for kicks? Intentionally miss the point time and time again?

You think the issue here is whether or not people can sign up instead of WHY they can't sign up?

Wow. Thick.... as a brick.
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(11-15-2013 05:13 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(11-15-2013 04:43 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Why would anyone who is against Obamacare be upset that the website to sign up isn't working well?

You would think they would be jumping for joy.

Amazing. Do you do this for kicks? Intentionally miss the point time and time again?

You think the issue here is whether or not people can sign up instead of WHY they can't sign up?

Wow. Thick.... as a brick.

He's a liberal, that's his job.
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(11-15-2013 05:13 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(11-15-2013 04:43 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Why would anyone who is against Obamacare be upset that the website to sign up isn't working well?

You would think they would be jumping for joy.

Amazing. Do you do this for kicks? Intentionally miss the point time and time again?

You think the issue here is whether or not people can sign up instead of WHY they can't sign up?

Wow. Thick.... as a brick.

Why would you or anyone else who is against Obamacare want to sign up in the first place?
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(11-15-2013 04:47 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  So Obama is now allowing people to keep their policies until 2014 or go back the the one they had?

I'm I understanding that right?

Can you even SEE what is wrong with that statement?
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(11-15-2013 05:44 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  
(11-15-2013 04:47 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  So Obama is now allowing people to keep their policies until 2014 or go back the the one they had?

I'm I understanding that right?

Can you even SEE what is wrong with that statement?

What is it that you guys want? First he grandfather's your policies.

Then the insurance companies increase your rates but you don't blame them, you blame Obama instead.

Now Obama is saying that you can keep the policy with that your insurance company raised and you are still complaining?

Some people are never satisfied.
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(11-15-2013 04:43 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Why would anyone who is against Obamacare be upset that the website to sign up isn't working well?

It's just more proof of government incompetence whose leader is Obama.
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(11-15-2013 05:55 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(11-15-2013 04:43 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Why would anyone who is against Obamacare be upset that the website to sign up isn't working well?

It's just more proof of government incompetence whose leader is Obama.

I wouldn't say incompetence because clearly the government would not have lasted 200+ years if it was incompetence.

Inefficient is a much better word.

Any institution as large as the United States government is going to be inefficient on some level.

It's the nature of the beast.
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(11-15-2013 05:58 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(11-15-2013 05:55 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(11-15-2013 04:43 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Why would anyone who is against Obamacare be upset that the website to sign up isn't working well?

It's just more proof of government incompetence whose leader is Obama.

I wouldn't say incompetence because clearly the government would not have lasted 200+ years if it was incompetence.

Inefficient is a much better word.

Any institution as large as the United States government is going to be inefficient on some level.

It's the nature of the beast.

He said he would save us $2500 not cost us more.
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(11-15-2013 05:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(11-15-2013 05:44 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  
(11-15-2013 04:47 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  So Obama is now allowing people to keep their policies until 2014 or go back the the one they had?

I'm I understanding that right?

Can you even SEE what is wrong with that statement?

What is it that you guys want? First he grandfather's your policies.

Then the insurance companies increase your rates but you don't blame them, you blame Obama instead.

Now Obama is saying that you can keep the policy with that your insurance company raised and you are still complaining?

Some people are never satisfied.

The president's semi-coherent rant yesterday will have no material affect on anything, except maybe making insurance companies the scapecoat, as evidenced by your post.
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(11-15-2013 05:58 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(11-15-2013 05:55 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(11-15-2013 04:43 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Why would anyone who is against Obamacare be upset that the website to sign up isn't working well?

It's just more proof of government incompetence whose leader is Obama.

I wouldn't say incompetence because clearly the government would not have lasted 200+ years if it was incompetence.

Inefficient is a much better word.

Any institution as large as the United States government is going to be inefficient on some level.

It's the nature of the beast.

Competence has nothing to do with a government "lasting." Incompetence means failure for those in the private sector. Governments, meanwhile, just take more and more from those who produce, like parasites, in order to keep their party going. When you see a bloated tick on a dog, is "that tick must be highly competent" what you think?

And since government is inherently inefficient, as you just admitted, why do you want so much of it?
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(11-15-2013 05:24 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(11-15-2013 05:13 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(11-15-2013 04:43 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Why would anyone who is against Obamacare be upset that the website to sign up isn't working well?

You would think they would be jumping for joy.

Amazing. Do you do this for kicks? Intentionally miss the point time and time again?

You think the issue here is whether or not people can sign up instead of WHY they can't sign up?

Wow. Thick.... as a brick.

Why would you or anyone else who is against Obamacare want to sign up in the first place?

So as not to get fined for not signing up???
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The problem I see here is that you all focus too much on what the President says rather than what actually occurs.

I assure you that nothing that the President says affects you as much as what actually occurs.

So please tell me what you personally have actually experienced that has occured to you and perhaps we can further the discussion.

As for me, my health insurnace has not changed one bit.
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(11-16-2013 12:51 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  The problem I see here is that you all focus too much on what the President says rather than what actually occurs.
I assure you that nothing that the President says affects you as much as what actually occurs.
So please tell me what you personally have actually experienced that has occured to you and perhaps we can further the discussion.
As for me, my health insurance has not changed one bit.

Well, one good reason for not focusing on what Obama says is that he's a lying SOB.

As for your question about what he does, my health insurance has not changed--yet--because I am on a plan provided by my employer. But that's simply because nothing has kicked in for employer-provided plans yet. When that does kick in next year, I expect changes--and for the worst. Moreover, I also have TriCare as retired military, and that coverage has gotten worse as there have been efforts to reduce the deficit by screwing our veterans, and I expect those to continue and to intensify as Obamacare starts to miss its cost containment goals. And as I approach retirement age in the civilian world, I am very much aware that we are consciously emulating systems where cost control means denying service to the elderly, and I see no reason to expect anything different here. Bottom line: There's no way Obamacare can result in anything other than paying more to wait longer for worse care. That it hasn't actually come to full fruition yet is of small consequence when it is inevitable.

So looking backward, except for getting screwed on TriCare, I see no major changes. But looking forward, and any prudent person must, I see nothing good coming. If you're fine saying that you haven't been screwed yet, so why expect it in the future, that's your choice. That seems nonsensical when the handwriting is clearly on the wall.
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At work, we did an early renewal (December 1) to kick the Obama-can nine months further down the road, as going to the community rating means we would pay an additional 94% for our health insurance. Our carrier has already informed us we will not be able to keep our plan beyond November 30, 2014.
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